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Roy when asked about Torres

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[quote author=RolandG link=topic=41124.msg1142285#msg1142285 date=1280088094]
Spionkop: put on the top, take out the Zippo and here's a cigar!
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I'd have used unleaded but not at £1.15 a litre. That's daylight robbery.

Oh and Whoooooooosh!
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41124.msg1142270#msg1142270 date=1280084921]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=41124.msg1142218#msg1142218 date=1280077685]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=41124.msg1142200#msg1142200 date=1280076130]
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=41124.msg1142182#msg1142182 date=1280075054]
Yeah, lets fuck Torres off. The useless, mercenary twat...
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It's amazing isn't it? 'Best fans in the world' and all that, then because Torres hasn't broke his holiday to say anything he should fuck off.
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No. It's not like that. It's the fact that he could easily dispell the rumours of him wanting out but he hasn't. He could have done that even before the World Cup. Chances are he's thinking about a move to Chelsea or Man City at this moment in time, and that's fucking criminal after all the arse licking he's given us in the past. It's painful for Liverpool fans to read him being linked away every week and he knows this. If he doesn't want to move on then why string us along? He's clearly thinking about it.

Now this 'beef with the club'. We've all got fucking beef with the club. We've all been lied to. Look at Gerrard, how many false promises do you think he's had over the last 10-12 years? I know it's different with Torres, we're not his boyhood club, but don't make promises you can't keep and tell us we're the fucking shit just to piss off 12 months later when things go down the pan. Stay and fight for us, or fuck off if you think you're better than us.

He's absolutely idolised here, and he's played up to it with his statements in the past. I don't want him to go, and all my judgement is based on if's and but's admittedly. But if he'd rather be at Man Fucking City or Chelsea than here, then he can get to fuck. What's wrong with saying that?
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Good post, Halmeister. I'm a bit more patient than you with Torres right now, but if he DID leave, I'd hate him with the same kind of passion.

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Cheers.

I don't hate him *yet*, Bunny. I've just got a feeling that he's going to break our hearts. Even I fucking idolise him and I'm 22, not an 8 year old. So for him to give up on us is a bit of a dagger in the back. I suppose my venting like this is me trying to prevent myself from being hurt.

I don't think he'll leave this summer, but these comments today have worried me a bit and have made me less certain.
 
[quote author=crump link=topic=41124.msg1142289#msg1142289 date=1280088730]
Don't be hurt, his beef isn't with you.
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Your avatar is disconcerting. His wrong eye follows me...
 
[quote author=Wilko link=topic=41124.msg1142084#msg1142084 date=1280063894]
It's shocking how genuinely vacuous one or two posters are on here. Harping on about how Roy hasn't a clue about what's going on at the club because he refers the media to Purslow when he prefers not to expand further on a particular subject.

Just like when poor doddering old Roy was clueless when he told the press he'd had a brief chat with Joe Cole but they'd need to speak with Purslow regarding any further progress. THREE DAYS BEFORE HE SIGNED FOR LIVERPOOL.
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It's not shocking at all, mate. It's actually as predictable as the sunrise.

It's unfortunate. And silly. But it's not the least bit shocking.
 
Ah, here comes Whaddapie to restore sanity and not be at all weird, or wrong about anything!

Hurray, sanity is restored!
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41124.msg1142298#msg1142298 date=1280089648]
Biffa?! Great stuff whadders! How're them pills working? Twitch gone?
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Completely, thanks. 'Cept when you're around... Strange that.
 
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=41124.msg1142296#msg1142296 date=1280089616]
actually you couldn't tell me what time the S** will rise tomorrow without looking it up, or asking where i lived
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No mate, I couldn't. But I can tell you that it WILL rise.
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41124.msg1142297#msg1142297 date=1280089619]
I actually saw a Biffa bin today ;D


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For some reason I always laugh when I see one of them.
 
[quote author=Whaddapie link=topic=41124.msg1142301#msg1142301 date=1280089813]
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=41124.msg1142296#msg1142296 date=1280089616]
actually you couldn't tell me what time the S** will rise tomorrow without looking it up, or asking where i lived
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No mate, I couldn't. But I can tell you that it WILL rise.
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except that there are two places on earth where it will not rise tomorrow
 
Well if neither you, nor anybody else on this website is located in either place, my point, as it relates to anybody reading it, remains.

And I think that you understand the point I was making...
 
yes i do. the reaction of the posters is predictable but there are complicated reasons for that reaction which might not be silly and unfortunate.

for example if they reacted like this to benitez earlier, then he might have gone before we'd lost alonso. that would have been fortunate would it not
 
Apples and oranges, no?

If they'd reacted like this to Rafa before the Alonso saga, they'd still have given him four full years of competitive football upon which to base their reactions.

By reacting like this to Roy, they've given him exactly zero compeitive games to succeed or fail.
 
if you have (complicated) reasons to believe roy will fail then he'd not deserve a single competitive game you'd want him replaced immeadiately
 
Understood.

And, as I disagree with deciding that he's going to fail here before a ball is kicked in anger, I think that that stance is both silly and unfortunate. And wholy predictable from certain segments of our population.

Which, in and of itself, is unfortunate.

Anyways, we get each other's sentiment - I'll wager it's almost time for your leaba, mo chara. 🙂
 
Today's Monday tabloids say citeh are gunner put a £60mill offer for elnino?? Not herd that before
 
This might be the time we take it, if he wants to go that is. It will be a sad day if we sell one of the best strikers in our history to Man City.
 
I don't think he'd want to join Man City. I have a feeling he'll stay, and we probably won't hear anything until next monday when he returns.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41124.msg1142418#msg1142418 date=1280131807]
I don't think he'd want to join Man City. I have a feeling he'll stay, and we probably won't hear anything until next monday when he returns.
[/quote]but surely he'll say something this week if he stays or not.
 
Apperanly City have done a deal with Inter regarding Balotelli. 25 mill £ according to Sky Sports Italia.

I'm guessing Torres is a no go then.
 
bbc said:
Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini wants to sign Fernando Torres - but only if the price is right.
New Liverpool boss Roy Hodgson has admitted Torres, 26, is unhappy with the club but any City approach depends on the striker wanting to move.
"Torres is one of the best strikers in Europe and is already playing in the Premier League for three years and knows it very well," said Mancini.
"But it depends on his situation - his price and whether he wants to come."
Liverpool have placed a reported £70m valuation on the player, who has also been mentioned as a possible Chelsea target.

Torres last saw action as Spain won the World Cup final, limping off in extra-time with a groin injury shortly after playing a major role in Andres Iniesta's winning goal against the Netherlands.
However, he is expected to be fit for the start of the season, with Liverpool facing Arsenal on 15 August and Manchester City playing Tottenham a day earlier.
The forward, who joined Liverpool from Atletico Madrid in 2007, signed a new deal at Anfield last year but is believed to be unhappy with the club because he feels let down by broken promises regarding investment in new players.
Hodgson wants to keep him but has conceded: "Unfortunately, I cannot do much more. His beef is with the club and not me."
On Sunday former Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish told BBC Sport that he hoped Hodgson's arrival would help persuade Torres to stay at Anfield.
Reds captain Steven Gerrard has indicated he expects to stay at the club, while Joe Cole's arrival from Chelsea could be another factor in Torres's future plans.

"When Torres sees that and talks with Roy I'm sure he'll give us good news," Dalglish told BBC Radio 5 live's Sportsweek programme.
"I hope Torres stays. Only Fernando knows what he is going to do. Unfortunately for him he is injured but he is a fantastic player and is very happy around the club and the city.
"The fact that Stevie is staying will be a great help and players like Joe Cole, Milan Jovanovic, Jonjo Shelvey and Danny Wilson mean there is buying for present and the future."
City boss Mancini said Torres is one of "two of three strikers" he could make a move for and the Italian also confirmed he is still interested in Aston Villa's England midfielder James Milner, although he insisted the club would not be held to ransom.
"When Manchester City enquire about a £10m player, the club asks for £20m. That is not good for us," stated Mancini. "James is still a player who interests us but only at the right price."
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