Roy when asked about Torres

[Loch Ness Monster]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41124.msg1142053#msg1142053 date=1280054973]
Like they'd give old Uncle Roy the 70m to spend anyway


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I believe Roy has prepared a club record bid for a player called Werther Original. He likes him a lot.

 

[manwithnoname]

And what's clear exactly?

 

[Squiggles]

It's clear we have a manager and a board who can sit in the same room together without chaos erupting, which, for the most part, is better for the club. Obviously if you're going to paint Purslow is the devil reborn and Benitez as the plucky rebel who kept this club going then you're going to think differently.

I've always said with Torres' future is dependent on our ownership situation more so than anything else, and that's still the case.

 

[manwithnoname]

I was asking bunnyman what he thought was clear

 

[Woland]

I wonder if his beef is like Sunday Roast or like beef monster munch, or like a really beefy fart?

 

[Rosco]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41124.msg1142032#msg1142032 date=1280051693]
Good post from gareth thomas
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It's illogical drivel, but because it contains "Roy is a yes man" you like it.

You're pathetic.

 

[manwithnoname]

Oh Ross! How your words hurt me!

I sometimes sense great loneliness in you, and it saddens me

 

[Wilko7]

It's shocking how genuinely vacuous one or two posters are on here. Harping on about how Roy hasn't a clue about what's going on at the club because he refers the media to Purslow when he prefers not to expand further on a particular subject.

Just like when poor doddering old Roy was clueless when he told the press he'd had a brief chat with Joe Cole but they'd need to speak with Purslow regarding any further progress. THREE DAYS BEFORE HE SIGNED FOR LIVERPOOL.

 

[Hansern]

King Kenny thinks he'll stay

Dalglish confident Torres will stay

Former Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish is confident the capture of Joe Cole and retention of captain Steven Gerrard will show Fernando Torres just how serious Roy Hodgson is about moving the Reds forwards.

Hodgson briefly met with Torres for the first time last week and maintains the 26-year-old's apparent reluctance to commit himself to another season with Liverpool comes from issues stretching back before he arrived as the new manager.

Torres - battling to be fit from an injury suffered in the World Cup final - has been linked with a £60 million move to Chelsea should he decide his future lies away from Anfield.

Dalglish, who played for and then managed Liverpool between 1985 and 1991 and is now the club's academy ambassador, feels Torres can be talked round to stay on under the new regime.

"When Torres sees that [Cole signing] and talks with Roy I am sure he will give us good news," Dalglish said.

"I hope Torres stays. Only Fernando knows what is going to do. Unfortunately for him he is injured, but he is a fantastic player and is very happy around the club and the city."

"The fact that Stevie is staying will be a great help and players like Joe Cole, Milan Jovanovic, Jonjo Shelvey and Danny Wilson means there is buying for the present and the future.

 

[Buddha]

This Shelvey lad better be good. Not only does he talk himself up but he gets regular mentions from others.

Stay 'Nando, we've signed Johnjo!

 

[manwithnoname]

Buying for the present and future at a cost of 4m.

Yep, that's going to impress him

He stated we need 4 new top-class players, and that just aiming to 'fight for fourth' is pointless for him

How much clearer can he make it? He wants to win titles. He'd prefer to do it at Liverpool. But we can't win titles with no money, an ordinary squad, holes all over the first team, liars and cheats at the top, and a mediocre manager like Old Roy

I hope he stays, of course, but he's only going to stay if nobody like Chelsea or Barca come in for him.

The change of ownership and new investment has been dangled in front of him once before, and fuck all happened, so he might not fall for it again

 

[TheBunnyman]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41124.msg1142064#msg1142064 date=1280055864]
I was asking bunnyman what he thought was clear
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The manager's role, and the limits to his power. Benitez seemed to think he ran the entire club, in the way a two-year-old thinks he runs the entire world - with tantrums, sulks, threats and emotional blackmail.

 

[doctor_mac]

[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41124.msg1142121#msg1142121 date=1280068247]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41124.msg1142064#msg1142064 date=1280055864]
I was asking bunnyman what he thought was clear
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The manager's role, and the limits to his power. Benitez seemed to think he ran the entire club, in the way a two-year-old thinks he runs the entire world - with tantrums, sulks, threats and emotional blackmail.
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At the same time, Hodgson is being made to look impotent, and I think he deserves better than that personally. I didn't want him as manager, but now he's with us, I want us to entrust him with the power to buy and sell at the very fucking least.

 

[manwithnoname]

So you think it's a good thing to have a manager with no power, authority, or real say in the buying and selling of players?

Hmmmm

 

[monsieurdantes]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41124.msg1142124#msg1142124 date=1280068408]
So you think it's a good thing to have a manager with no power, authority, or real say in the buying and selling of players?

Hmmmm
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yes, he should be made to earn that power and authority

 

[manwithnoname]

Like Pursssssslow has earned it?

 

[TheBunnyman]

Tbph, if Purslow gets rid of the dross (Insua, Degen, Plessis etc etc) bought by 'tactical genius' Rafa, and signs players like Joe Cole to replace them, then I couldn't give a fuck whether he's earned it or not. As long as Roy is happy working under those conditions, I don't see what the problem is.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41124.msg1142086#msg1142086 date=1280064377]
King Kenny thinks he'll stay

Dalglish confident Torres will stay

Former Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish is confident the capture of Joe Cole and retention of captain Steven Gerrard will show Fernando Torres just how serious Roy Hodgson is about moving the Reds forwards.

Hodgson briefly met with Torres for the first time last week and maintains the 26-year-old's apparent reluctance to commit himself to another season with Liverpool comes from issues stretching back before he arrived as the new manager.

Torres - battling to be fit from an injury suffered in the World Cup final - has been linked with a £60 million move to Chelsea should he decide his future lies away from Anfield.

Dalglish, who played for and then managed Liverpool between 1985 and 1991 and is now the club's academy ambassador, feels Torres can be talked round to stay on under the new regime.

"When Torres sees that [Cole signing] and talks with Roy I am sure he will give us good news," Dalglish said.

"I hope Torres stays. Only Fernando knows what is going to do. Unfortunately for him he is injured, but he is a fantastic player and is very happy around the club and the city."

"The fact that Stevie is staying will be a great help and players like Joe Cole, Milan Jovanovic, Jonjo Shelvey and Danny Wilson means there is buying for the present and the future.
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Nowhere in that article does Kenny say Torres will stay.

 

[manwithnoname]

Kenny does sound positive and optimistic, if not definitive

Not that that counts for that much, but hey ho

 

[monsieurdantes]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41124.msg1142131#msg1142131 date=1280069278]
Like Pursssssslow has earned it?
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he doesn't need to, his transfers earnt the club money the second after they are completed. hodgson will cost the club money and then you won't know if its paid off until next summer.

 

[manwithnoname]

Oh. Right.

 

[Halmeister]

Torres is really fucking pissing me off now. If he wants to go to Man City or Chelsea (they're the only two that could afford him), then fuck off.

 

[monsieurdantes]

[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=41124.msg1142143#msg1142143 date=1280070198]
Torres is really fucking pissing me off now. If he wants to go to Man City or Chelsea (they're the only two that could afford him), then fuck off.
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That's just now. Later you'll be even more pissed off by jovanovic only scoring every 3rd or 4th game

 

[manwithnoname]

I don't why everyone's so pissed off with Torres.

Even if he does do the unthinkable and join Shitty, he's joining a club more likely to do well next season and after, and really challenge for trophies

(That really would annoy me, actually)

I so want him to stay, but I can think of lots of reasons why he might not want to

 

[Portly]

[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=41124.msg1142143#msg1142143 date=1280070198]
Torres is really fucking pissing me off now. If he wants to go to Man City or Chelsea (they're the only two that could afford him), then fuck off.
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I agree, and I think Mascherano should also give the club some indication of his intentions, as he must be aware of the speculation.

 

[manwithnoname]

Masher wants to join Inter, and it's been made quite obvious

 

[Woland]

I doubt anyone will match our valuation of either of them, so we'll get another year.

 

[Halmeister]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41124.msg1142145#msg1142145 date=1280070461]
I don't why everyone's so pissed off with Torres.

Even if he does do the unthinkable and join Shitty, he's joining a club more likely to do well next season and after, and really challenge for trophies

(That really would annoy me, actually)

I so want him to stay, but I can think of lots of reasons why he might not want to
[/quote]

It's because he was basically chatting shite to us over the last 3 years. How he'd never leave for another PL club. How he wanted to raise his children as scousers. How much he loves us, the fans.

It's looking like it was all fucking lies. If he wants to go to City or Chelsea I don't care anymore. Fuck him.

 

[manwithnoname]

Crump> I dunno. Maybe. But keeping grumpy players who don't want to be here is also a risk.

 

[Jack D Rips]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41124.msg1142108#msg1142108 date=1280065871]
Buying for the present and future at a cost of 4m.

Yep, that's going to impress him

He stated we need 4 new top-class players, and that just aiming to 'fight for fourth' is pointless for him

How much clearer can he make it? He wants to win titles. He'd prefer to do it at Liverpool. But we can't win titles with no money, an ordinary squad, holes all over the first team, liars and cheats at the top, and a mediocre manager like Old Roy

I hope he stays, of course, but he's only going to stay if nobody like Chelsea or Barca come in for him.

The change of ownership and new investment has been dangled in front of him once before, and fuck all happened, so he might not fall for it again
[/quote]

To be honest I dont care what HE wants any more. We all know what we need but we also know that we havnt got an arse in our trousers or a pot to piss in,so it would be nice if HE and the other HE got their arses back to Melwood and start preparing to fulfil their contracts and earn their fat pay cheques. that are being paid by their employers.

Whether HE likes it or not, HE and other players, along with our ex manager are at least partly responsible for the fact that we wont be challenging for the CL this year.

If he wants to walk out on the responsibility of getting us back in there then fuck off now and at least give us the chance to spend the money on suitable replaceements.