I don't think it was you cos, y'know, you kinda look like Rafa.
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This, this and this again.
Save it, on this subject you will never get anywhere with this opinion. You are in his little black book now.
Selective memory that, they/we were always vocal, just the doom mongers led by RedNinja went into overdrive. Although saying that, you were on your little hiatus anyway, so how would you know?
Yeah, because people weren't backing him when the idiots on here were running riot during the first few months of the season, were they?
Well that would be about as many as those that have filled up a three page thread that's been going for a few days.
Not sure about a cup meaning nothing at all, but I certainly think getting into the CL is a higher priority. My guess would be that FSG take that view as well.
Do you mean you think he'll be sacked if we don't finish fourth (unless we win the UEFA Cup) or do you mean you think he should be sacked if we don't qualify for the European Cup?
Really.... I mean really.
Most "Rodgers fans" seem to have a well balanced view of both his good & bad points - as opposed to the rabid "sack him" crew..
And just how would you have felt if said rabid crew had got their wish & Rafa been re-appointed.
Have you ever seen the 80's sc-fi/horror classic Scanners? There's a scene that would closely resemble your reaction if Rafa returned.
I'd be surprised if Rodgers wasn't set a firm target of CL qualification for this season. For me the question whether he should be sacked if we don't achieve that would depend on how far short we fell. If we only just failed to reach that standard, I don't think he should lose his job while, if we ended up a long way short, it would have to be considered IMO. I've no idea whether FSG would see it that way though.
You're right, it's rarely so cut and dried though is it? Certainly not here anyway, for instance the beginning of the season was disastrous, months before we were contenders, now we're back on track. If we made decisions based on short term targets, we'd be nowhere. You can see the progress in some respects and what is needed to get us that step further. It would be naive to sack him if we end the season on a high, but falling short of the top four because of our earlier form. We need to be longtermist about it, it was always going to be difficult to replicate last season, while losing two top strikers.
The real problem for Rodgers is that we've been abysmal for most of the season. Utd have been as bad as last season and yet they're still 5 points ahead of us. IMO it took him far too long to hit upon a reasonable formula to compensate for the losses to his attack: a few weeks would've been acceptable but in reality it was more like 3 months. Not to mention the shambles in defence he presided (presideds?) over.
I think if we don't get CL he'll have used up the credit from last season. The only question would be whether we can get in a superior replacement.
I wouldn't directly disagree with any of that, Mark, but what your post doesn't address is the question of what happens if we end this season a long way short of a CL place, rather than only just missing out on one. That's a factor which anyone would surely have to take into consideration when deciding whether Rodgers is capable of, as you well put it, that step further. My preference would definitely be to see him stay, but not at all costs.
I think he'll get sacked if we don't make the CL basically. So a cup win wouldn't matter just like it didn't matter for Dalglish.
Frank De Boer seems to be the most prominent candidate according to the usual rumour-mongers.
We all know what WE think Rodgers needs to improve on - coaching defending - but what do you think HE thinks he most needs to improve on? It's a way of gauging how well we feel we know him. I don't think it will be signing players, because he doesn't have enough power anyway to do so. Personally I doubt he'll look back on the recent crisis as a sign that he needs to be more pragmatic. I suspect he feels he's learnt to pursue his own principles more ruthlessly than ever. He adapted a lot for Suarez, and he adapted quite a bit for Gerrard. Now I think he'll be more determined than ever to do it his way.
Frank de Boer has told his agent not to bother telling him about any interest as he is happy enough at Ajax.
Bit WUMmy that.
I don't know. If he had adjusted one player to compensate for our defensive issues then I'd be inclined to agree, but he's gone wholesale in adding a centre back, adding a DM in Lucas. Ok, so it took time for it to happen, but it did, while at the same time he adjusted his thinking to get the best out of our attack in terms of playing to strengths to compensate for our lack of firepower.
All managers are stubborn, it goes with the territory, but I think he's shown more willingness than most, to adjust his thinking when needed, and he generally pulls something out of the hat. That in itself is enough to persevere, because I think he's shown a tendency to learn in many respects and adjust his approach, which has served him well tactically within games too.
I think that's highly probable. It's risky of course and I have to admit the thought of it makes me a tad uneasy, but it is almost certainly the way he'll choose to go.
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