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How has it gotten so bad? There is a major blunder in almost every game these days.

It's making me hate football a bit.
 
The FA needs to act. Either promote new refs or seriously re-educate the current lot.
 
It was always pretty bad. But the old refs had a bit of humility. Obviously the game's quicker and there are more cameras, every error is highlighted, but I doubt there's much of a decline (it might even be the reverse). It's the air of arrogance that's galling these days.
 
The Premier league is ranked very low when it comes to refereeing. There are maybe 2-3 that are good. But the general smug, arrogant and cockey tone is shite. Loads of errors and most wouldnt know game intelligence if it was thrusted up their dark side of the moon.

The worst refs in the PL are so bad it hurts watching games.
 
I don't understand the retrospective action bollocks. It's arrogant to say that "I saw it so I'm right" which is what it seems to be now
 
I don't understand the retrospective action bollocks. It's arrogant to say that "I saw it so I'm right" which is what it seems to be now

It's not even a uefa directive at all.

The fa just use that as an excuse, it's bollocks.
 
Exanple: mikel kicked parker just then mikel got booked when arguably he should be off. Nothing will happen


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Martin Atkinson should permanently be fucked off to the conference.
 
20 years ago refs couldn't even keep up with the play, let alone make consistently good decisions, but they got away with some awful decisions. The incompetance is just easier to spot these days.
 
Sholdn't Cech have been sent off as well for the fouls before Spurs goal? or even booked??
 
It is naive to not assume PL refs takes a bribe, when there have been so many scandals around elsewhere. It is so much money involved. United getting the better of 5 dubious penalty decisions in 6 games is to much to be a coincidence.
 
The biggest problem is because of the saturated media coverage of football in this country, the refs have becomes household names - and don't they fucking know it. Watching Webb coming out yesterday practically swaggering with his chest puffed out was just laughable. And Atkinson??? The man craves controversy. He should be binned for the rest of the season like those two linesmen. Not going to happen though.
 
Sholdn't Cech have been sent off as well for the fouls before Spurs goal? or even booked??

I heard it's to do with phases of play. If bale wasn't there a goalscoring opportunity would be denied and a straight red. As bale was there, the play went into the next phase and thus a goalscoring opportunity wasn't denied


Or some other bollocks.
 
The biggest problem is because of the saturated media coverage of football in this country, the refs have becomes household names - and don't they fucking know it. Watching Webb coming out yesterday practically swaggering with his chest puffed out was just laughable. And Atkinson??? The man craves controversy. He should be binned for the rest of the season like those two linesmen. Not going to happen though.

Remember Uriah Rennie? Christ he was vain. He was turning up on TV shows at one point. As I said, if anyone sees a DVD of an old match from say 20 or 30 years ago they'll see some awful refereeing, but the egos of today's refs makes their incompetence harder to take.
 
the fa should ask the ref if he saw the ball cross the line. if the ref says I saw the ball cross the line then fa should punish the ref for being blind and if he says he didn't see the ball cross the line and therefore took a guess then the ref should be punished for giving a decision he didn't directly see.
 
Remember Uriah Rennie? Christ he was vain. He was turning up on TV shows at one point. As I said, if anyone sees a DVD of an old match from say 20 or 30 years ago they'll see some awful refereeing, but the egos of today's refs makes their incompetence harder to take.
Can't remember who we played but I remember seeing Uriah Rennie doing laps of the pitch as the players were warming up at Anfield. He was a fit man, but he was a piss-poor ref.
 
Remember Uriah Rennie? Christ he was vain. He was turning up on TV shows at one point. As I said, if anyone sees a DVD of an old match from say 20 or 30 years ago they'll see some awful refereeing, but the egos of today's refs makes their incompetence harder to take.

He was indeed. Not quite as fame hungry and self-promoting as Graham Poll but not far off!

As you say, I'm sure years ago refs made just as many mistakes, but back then they were just slightly stern, official looking teachers who were kind of in the background most of the time. It seems that since they have become professional they have seemed worse, possibly because we expect more but probably because they have shoved themselves in the limelight more.
 
Not being disrespectful but i understand asking opposition fans to stay silent for a minute when they play us on the anniversary of the disaster but asking two sets of fans on a big occasion F.A.cup semi-final to stay silent for the death of fans of another club years ago makes little sense .
 
It is naive to not assume PL refs takes a bribe, when there have been so many scandals around elsewhere. It is so much money involved. United getting the better of 5 dubious penalty decisions in 6 games is to much to be a coincidence.

Correct. It amazes me that people so readily dismiss this.
 
Not being disrespectful but i understand asking opposition fans to stay silent for a minute when they play us on the anniversary of the disaster but asking two sets of fans on a big occasion F.A.cup semi-final to stay silent for the death of fans of another club years ago makes little sense .

Strongly disagree. It was barely more than a dozen years ago and the club allegiance of the fans involved shouldn't have anything to do with it. They happen to have been fellow Reds so it means a lot to us, BUT it was a football disaster, not just a Liverpool one.
 
Strongly disagree. It was barely more than a dozen years ago and the club allegiance of the fans involved shouldn't have anything to do with it. They happen to have been fellow Reds so it means a lot to us, BUT it was a football disaster, not just a Liverpool one.

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Strongly disagree. It was barely more than a dozen years ago and the club allegiance of the fans involved shouldn't have anything to do with it. They happen to have been fellow Reds so it means a lot to us, BUT it was a football disaster, not just a Liverpool one.

that happened two decades ago. hillsborough should be ours now and ours alone, we're asking people who don't give a shit about it to pay their respects.
 
HOLY CRAP, it did cross the line.

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Sorry about the arithmetic. A bad cold and consequently little sleep for the past two or three nights are taking their toll.

I stand by the rest though. Since when was showing respect dependent on whether or not people personally give a sh!t about the individuals or causes involved?
 
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