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And some Celtic fans are definetely at least as bad. I once had the misfortune to be standing beside an Irish Liverpool/Celtic fan in Melbourne while watching a match on TV and having to enjoy him refer to Dirk Kuyt a dirty orange cunt constantly.

*blinks*
 
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Hehehe, that's priceless.
 
You're not selling Israel as a holiday destination!
my parents took me to israel when i was like 8, looking back i dont think it was a particularly stable place at the time. anyway the only thing i remember from that holiday is the wailing wall, i dont think i knew anything about Judaism at the time so i wasnt prepared. i remember feeling quite ominous when my dad turned to me and said, "son, you're mother and sister cannot cross this border to the wall, we must go on alone", so already i was shitting myself, the next thing i know id lost sight of my father in a sea of big man dressed all in black with facial hair the likes ive never seen before, and they were all nodding towards a giant wall, wailing at the top of their voices. i didnt have a fucking clue what was going on and, at the risk of offending anyone (apologies if i do, its not my intention) i was fucking terrified.

My wailing joined theirs as i was swallowed into the hasidic darkness, and i was never heard from again
 
.... and another thing.... Rangers aren't looking to just enter the English League. That would be too difficult and take too long.

They might be looking to buy a team in England (Bury being the one they were linked with recently), then change that teams name to Glasgow Ranger and move their home games to Ibrox.

Does anyone remember when some consortium were talking about moving Wimbeldon to Dublin a few years back, before they ended up moving to Milton Keynes.

The last team to be liquidated in Scotland, a few years back was Airdrieonians - who were reformed as Airdrie Utd, then refused entry to the 3rd division and subsequently bought Clydebank FC and merged them with Airdrie Utd.

The main reason Airdrieonians went bankrupt was due to being forced into adminstration & liquidation because of unpaid bills for steel used in the construction of their new 9,000 capacity stadium. The money was owed to Murray International Metals - owned by David Murray the then Chairman of Rangers and it was he who started the proceedings against Airdrieonians, alledgedly stating "business is business".

As things stand in Scotland, the club know as Glasgow Rangers will cease to exist once they formerly enter liquidation in a few weeks. A new club is supposed to be able to provide 3 years of accounts before being eligible to apply for membership of the SFL.

Airdrie Utd, will be one of the teams asked to vote on whether to bend the rules to allow Newco Rangers back into the SFL as the SPL teams have knocked them back. I wonder if it'll be "business is business" again.

The SFA is currently working with the SPL and SFL to try and work out a deal which might involve restructuring the entire league system ins Scotland. It's based on the McLeish Report which has been kicking about for a few years. The mad rush to implement the McLeish Report started about a week ago after the first SPL teams openly declared they would not support Newco Rangers being admitted to the SPL. The SFA is driving these changes.

The SFA's Chairmam, Campbel Ogilvie, was General Secretary of Rangers FC, up until 2005 and was the person who would have signed off on Rangers accounts while they were running up the debt that ultimately killed them and when they were usimg illegal un-registered secondary contractual payments through an EBT scheme to avoid paying tax. If found quilty of using these illegal secondary contracts, Rangers could be guilty of fielding ineligible players and have the trophies from the Murray era expunged from the history books.

Campbell Ogilvie also personally received money through the EBT scheme.

Rangers most likely way out is to buy another team and re-name them Rangers. The most likely team is thought to be Cowdenbeath.

Cowdebeath's Chairman is Donald Findlay QC, who in 1999 caused a controversey after a video was leaked of him signing "The Sash" at a Rangers party after a cup final win and subsequently had to resign from his position as....... Vice Chairman of Rangers FC under David Murray.
How do you know so much Stevie?
 
I hope Rangers join in the English league get promoted up to the top flight and get away from Scottish footbal which is dying. It would be a cracking atmosphere in the away game up at Ibrox, assuming you dont get knifed.
 
my parents took me to israel when i was like 8, looking back i dont think it was a particularly stable place at the time. anyway the only thing i remember from that holiday is the wailing wall, i dont think i knew anything about Judaism at the time so i wasnt prepared. i remember feeling quite ominous when my dad turned to me and said, "son, you're mother and sister cannot cross this border to the wall, we must go on alone", so already i was shitting myself, the next thing i know id lost sight of my father in a sea of big man dressed all in black with facial hair the likes ive never seen before, and they were all nodding towards a giant wall, wailing at the top of their voices. i didnt have a fucking clue what was going on and, at the risk of offending anyone (apologies if i do, its not my intention) i was fucking terrified.

My wailing joined theirs as i was swallowed into the hasidic darkness, and i was never heard from again

I have no idea what the wailing wall is. Does if actually wail back at you?

Why cant women go there?
 
I have no idea what the wailing wall is. Does if actually wail back at you?

Why cant women go there?

You do know what it is, you just don't realise.
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Surely you've seen it on the news?

I don't know why women aren't allowed to go there, Wizzy will know that.
 
You do know what it is, you just don't realise.
wailing-wall1.jpg


Surely you've seen it on the news?

I don't know why women aren't allowed to go there, Wizzy will know that.
Because, as with most organised religions, women are seen as 2nd class citizens.
 
think they are allowed, its just in a different section, if i remember correctly

There's two sections - as visible in the pic, one on the left - and one on the right. One's for ladies, one's for men. They can hang out outside this are together and take photos n' shit with the many tourists. You're a red sea pedestrian Lewy?

Because, as with most organised religions, women are seen as 2nd class citizens.

This is false.
 
There's two sections - as visible in the pic, one on the left - and one on the right. One's for ladies, one's for men. They can hang out outside this are together and take photos n' shit with the many tourists. You're a red sea pedestrian Lewy?

nope, my dad used to be pretty christian though so i guess we went there as a kind of christian pilgrimage, which was quite annoying cause everybody else in the family would have rather gone to egypt
 
nope, my dad used to be pretty christian though so i guess we went there as a kind of christian pilgrimage, which was quite annoying cause everybody else in the family would have rather gone to egypt

I hope you saw Bethlehem, Nazareth and that kinda stuff though? Egypt was pretty cool - not for much longer though.
 
You do know what it is, you just don't realise.
wailing-wall1.jpg


Surely you've seen it on the news?

I don't know why women aren't allowed to go there, Wizzy will know that.

I have seen that on the news yeah, its a religious thing I take it reading lewys last post.

Seriously though, why is it called the wailing wall?
 
I have seen that on the news yeah, its a religious thing I take it reading lewys last post.

Seriously though, why is it called the wailing wall?

I have an idea in my head but I'm afraid to say in case I'm horribly wrong and I look like an idiot!
 
I have an idea in my head but I'm afraid to say in case I'm horribly wrong and I look like an idiot!
cause they fucking wail/pray, scaring the shite out of little 8 year old me

I hope you saw Bethlehem, Nazareth and that kinda stuff though? Egypt was pretty cool - not for much longer though.
i probably saw those, the wailing wall is literally the only thing i can remember, but ye i probably missed the best time to go to egypt, actually maybe not, actually im not even sure if theres been a time when its been politically stable in my lifetime, but then again i know fuck all about it
 
We (Western folk) call it the Wailling Wall but it's actually called the Western Wall. Least I think that's the case.
 
actually im not even sure if theres been a time when its been politically stable in my lifetime, but then again i know fuck all about it

It was 'politically stable' as there was a 'demoractically' elected leader who ensured there was overall calm. Now there's issues in their biggest tourism magnet (Sinai) - we'll see what happens.

We (Western folk) call it the Wailling Wall but it's actually called the Western Wall. Least I think that's the case.

You're right - though either term is technically fine Mr. Worldly Dave
 
How do you know so much Stevie?

For those of you that are interested, go to http://rangerstaxcase.wordpress.com/

It's a blog which sets out what has happened - it's been instrumental in getting accurate information out to thebfans, as the Glasgow based media are so biased towards Rangers it's unbelievable.

the levels of alleged corruption, but certain gerrymandering and just plain miss-management of the Scottish game is quite shocking.

Vladimie Romanov, the Lithuianian who owns Hearts has been known as "Vlad the Mad" for years because of his outbursts about collusions between Sky, Glasgow newspapers, the SFA, the SPL, referees and the Old Firm (specifically Rangers).

It turns out he was right all along.... there was a huge conspiracy to ensure Rangers dominated football in Scotland, to the point that Alex salmond, Scotland First Mininster, lobbeyed HMRC to go easy on Rangers.

People are going to be doing time over this.... if certain organisations based in Northern Ireland don't pop round for a "wee chat" first.
 
Are you suggesting that Irish people are hypocrites for supporting English clubs or did I read your post wrong? If I did apologies

Not all Irish people. Just the ones who's utter disdain for the mainland seems to be forgotten when it comes to supporting a football team. If these people can't stand England so much because of history, why in the name of good fuck, would they want to be associated with an English football team? Smacks of rank hypocrisy to me.

As for the Irishmen who support Rangers or Celtic, if anyone tells me its not down to historical sectarian divides then frankly I think they need their heads testing. To back this up, how many protestant Irishman support Celtic or vice versa?
 
Not all Irish people. Just the ones who's utter disdain for the mainland seems to be forgotten when it comes to supporting a football team. If these people can't stand England so much because of history, why in the name of good fuck, would they want to be associated with an English football team? Smacks of rank hypocrisy to me.

As for the Irishmen who support Rangers or Celtic, if anyone tells me its not down to historical sectarian divides then frankly I think they need their heads testing. To back this up, how many protestant Irishman support Celtic or vice versa?

LOL . The mainland. Enough said.

On the Rangers /Celtic thing. I couldnt agree more.
 
I have seen that on the news yeah, its a religious thing I take it reading lewys last post.

Seriously though, why is it called the wailing wall?

Women are not allowed there because all Abrahamic religions are based on (alongside believing there's an invisible man in the sky who watches every thing you do and will punish you for eternity if you displease him) men subjugating women.
Simple.
 
LOL . The mainland. Enough said.

On the Rangers /Celtic thing. I couldnt agree more.

Don't get me wrong, not all Irish fall into this category. I've just heard some telling anyone who'll listen about the what bastards the English have been to the Irish throughout history - whilst they wear a top of a club that's English! Just seems strange, although given the strength (or lack of) of the League of Ireland, perhaps its understandable.

Plus Irish fans are the worst of the jester hat wearers at Anfield. Fact!!!! 😉
 
Don't get me wrong, not all Irish fall into this category. I've just heard some telling anyone who'll listen about the what bastards the English have been to the Irish throughout history - whilst they wear a top of a club that's English! Just seems strange, although given the strength (or lack of) of the League of Ireland, perhaps its understandable.

Plus Irish fans are the worst of the jester hat wearers at Anfield. Fact!!!! 😉

I think its pretty much agreed that throughout history there have been times when certain English people have behaved like right bastards towards the Irish. I wouldnt hold it against their football teams though. 😀
 
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