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[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38644.msg1094096#msg1094096 date=1272378060]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38644.msg1094040#msg1094040 date=1272372807]
Rafa4PM and spiderneil, are you saying you don't feel even slightly betrayed by the manager you idolise sneakily signing for another club while our season spirals down the toilet? It's people like you I feel sorry for. You chant his name every week, you defend him every day on this forum, and then he just fucks off to Italy in search of a bigger transfer kitty. And still he can do no wrong?!

[/quote]

Has he actually signed for Juve then, or is this just newspaper speculation at present?






[/quote]

FFS - just give me a hypothetical response!
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=38644.msg1094180#msg1094180 date=1272385124]
Rafa, Torres, Lucas, Skrtel, Aurelio, Insua, Pacheco, Aqualani, N'Gog and Babel will all be gone in the summer.

Remember where you heard it first.
[/quote]

the new manager will have 200m to spend! YAY!!
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=38644.msg1093934#msg1093934 date=1272363197]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=38644.msg1093931#msg1093931 date=1272362953]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=38644.msg1093857#msg1093857 date=1272360067]
Can you imagine if we were desperate for him to stay? We'd be mortified by this kind of behaviour.
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We aren't, he knows we aren't and hence it isn't underhanded in any way shape or form. I suspect he is probably being encouraged to seek another job from within the club as we don't have to pay as much compensation to sack him.
[/quote]

he knows we aren't. his name is sung every game home and away. where would he feel he isn't wanted? I suspect he doesn't frequent 6CM and even if he did the ratio of people that want him out is at worst 60:40
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OK Neil, everything is hunky dory and there is no way he could fail to feel unloved and appreciated for his wonderful efforts this season.

Jesus Christ the attendance against West Ham was 37,697 the atmosphere in the stadium is completely dead, and the papers have been running stories about him being sacked all season. The players look as though the have given up, we are about to finish in our lowest league position in years, and we have been signing absolute rubbish since Masher. Yet for some reason you seem to that Rafa will be completely oblivious to the disaster area surrounding him, in the exact same way that you are oblivious to Ryan Babel being shit.
 
My humble opinion:

Rafa is not going anywhere. Everything is quiet as no one knows who is going to own the club come the summer. Juventus can not afford Rafa and Rafa isn't going to give up a tonne of money to go somewhere else. Plus Rafa knows that the Italians won't stick by him if he doesn't get instant results.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38644.msg1094185#msg1094185 date=1272385422]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38644.msg1094096#msg1094096 date=1272378060]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38644.msg1094040#msg1094040 date=1272372807]
Rafa4PM and spiderneil, are you saying you don't feel even slightly betrayed by the manager you idolise sneakily signing for another club while our season spirals down the toilet? It's people like you I feel sorry for. You chant his name every week, you defend him every day on this forum, and then he just fucks off to Italy in search of a bigger transfer kitty. And still he can do no wrong?!

[/quote]

Has he actually signed for Juve then, or is this just newspaper speculation at present?



[/quote]

FFS - just give me a hypothetical response!

[/quote]


http://sixcrazyminutes.com/forums/index.php?topic=39818.msg1088396#msg1088396
 
[quote author=plates link=topic=38644.msg1094195#msg1094195 date=1272386985]
My humble opinion:

Rafa is not going anywhere. Everything is quiet as no one knows who is going to own the club come the summer. Juventus can not afford Rafa and Rafa isn't going to give up a tonne of money to go somewhere else. Plus Rafa knows that the Italians won't stick by him if he doesn't get instant results.
[/quote]

You seem to hint of insider knowledge. Care to disclose your saucers, Plates?
 
[quote author=refugee link=topic=38644.msg1094191#msg1094191 date=1272386277]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=38644.msg1093934#msg1093934 date=1272363197]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=38644.msg1093931#msg1093931 date=1272362953]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=38644.msg1093857#msg1093857 date=1272360067]
Can you imagine if we were desperate for him to stay? We'd be mortified by this kind of behaviour.
[/quote]

We aren't, he knows we aren't and hence it isn't underhanded in any way shape or form. I suspect he is probably being encouraged to seek another job from within the club as we don't have to pay as much compensation to sack him.
[/quote]

he knows we aren't. his name is sung every game home and away. where would he feel he isn't wanted? I suspect he doesn't frequent 6CM and even if he did the ratio of people that want him out is at worst 60:40
[/quote]

OK Neil, everything is hunky dory and there is no way he could fail to feel unloved and appreciated for his wonderful efforts this season.

Jesus Christ the attendance against West Ham was 37,697 the atmosphere in the stadium is completely dead, and the papers have been running stories about him being sacked all season. The players look as though the have given up, we are about to finish in our lowest league position in years, and we have been signing absolute rubbish since Masher. Yet for some reason you seem to that Rafa will be completely oblivious to the disaster area surrounding him, in the exact same way that you are oblivious to Ryan Babel being shit.
[/quote]

I'm not oblivious to rafa's or ryan's faults, I just think the former has more to contend with than just what happens on the pitch and in the case of the later I just like him (hey, sue me).
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38644.msg1094200#msg1094200 date=1272387898]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38644.msg1094185#msg1094185 date=1272385422]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38644.msg1094096#msg1094096 date=1272378060]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38644.msg1094040#msg1094040 date=1272372807]
Rafa4PM and spiderneil, are you saying you don't feel even slightly betrayed by the manager you idolise sneakily signing for another club while our season spirals down the toilet? It's people like you I feel sorry for. You chant his name every week, you defend him every day on this forum, and then he just fucks off to Italy in search of a bigger transfer kitty. And still he can do no wrong?!

[/quote]

Has he actually signed for Juve then, or is this just newspaper speculation at present?



[/quote]

FFS - just give me a hypothetical response!

[/quote]


http://sixcrazyminutes.com/forums/index.php?topic=39818.msg1088396#msg1088396



[/quote]

Right, that's what I thought. Good.

So why did you applaud Molbytwin's post then?
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38644.msg1094096#msg1094096 date=1272378060]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38644.msg1094040#msg1094040 date=1272372807]
Rafa4PM and spiderneil, are you saying you don't feel even slightly betrayed by the manager you idolise sneakily signing for another club while our season spirals down the toilet? It's people like you I feel sorry for. You chant his name every week, you defend him every day on this forum, and then he just fucks off to Italy in search of a bigger transfer kitty. And still he can do no wrong?!

[/quote]

Has he actually signed for Juve then, or is this just newspaper speculation at present?


[/quote]

You could have been a bit more vicious with your response.
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38644.msg1094234#msg1094234 date=1272393511]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38644.msg1094200#msg1094200 date=1272387898]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38644.msg1094185#msg1094185 date=1272385422]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38644.msg1094096#msg1094096 date=1272378060]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38644.msg1094040#msg1094040 date=1272372807]
Rafa4PM and spiderneil, are you saying you don't feel even slightly betrayed by the manager you idolise sneakily signing for another club while our season spirals down the toilet? It's people like you I feel sorry for. You chant his name every week, you defend him every day on this forum, and then he just fucks off to Italy in search of a bigger transfer kitty. And still he can do no wrong?!

[/quote]

Has he actually signed for Juve then, or is this just newspaper speculation at present?



[/quote]

FFS - just give me a hypothetical response!

[/quote]


http://sixcrazyminutes.com/forums/index.php?topic=39818.msg1088396#msg1088396



[/quote]

Right, that's what I thought. Good.

So why did you applaud Molbytwin's post then?
[/quote]

FFS - I liked the post, get over it.

I think you need to learn the difference between "speculation" and what actually proves to be the case (on this subject) Bunny. You keep spouting off about the reports in the media like they are facts.

As it stands now none of us know what is going on, so i for one don't feel "fucking shocked" or "betrayed by his behaviour" at present.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38644.msg1093839#msg1093839 date=1272358969]
*uncorks champagne*
[/quote]

If he leaves for Juve I will actually buy a bottle of Champagne to celebrate. I'll send you one too. (probably a cheap one)
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=38644.msg1094248#msg1094248 date=1272394601]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=38644.msg1094096#msg1094096 date=1272378060]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38644.msg1094040#msg1094040 date=1272372807]
Rafa4PM and spiderneil, are you saying you don't feel even slightly betrayed by the manager you idolise sneakily signing for another club while our season spirals down the toilet? It's people like you I feel sorry for. You chant his name every week, you defend him every day on this forum, and then he just fucks off to Italy in search of a bigger transfer kitty. And still he can do no wrong?!

[/quote]

Has he actually signed for Juve then, or is this just newspaper speculation at present?


[/quote]

You could have been a bit more vicious with your response.
[/quote]

I'm a reformed poster nowadays mate 😉
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38644.msg1094256#msg1094256 date=1272395605]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38644.msg1093839#msg1093839 date=1272358969]
*uncorks champagne*
[/quote]

If he leaves for Juve I will actually buy a bottle of Champagne to celebrate. I'll send you one too. (probably a cheap one)
[/quote]

You are going to celebrate the failure of a liverpool manager. I just can't get my head around that.
 
Can those who reckon Rafa would be doing something wrong by leaving, many of whom seem to be keen that he should leave, please explain to me how they reconcile those two views?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38644.msg1094262#msg1094262 date=1272395975]
Can those who reckon Rafa would be doing something wrong by leaving, many of whom seem to be keen that he should leave, please explain to me how they reconcile those two views?
[/quote]

Not content with waging war in GC, Jules continues his rampage around the forum!
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38644.msg1094262#msg1094262 date=1272395975]
Can those who reckon Rafa would be doing something wrong by leaving, many of whom seem to be keen that he should leave, please explain to me how they reconcile those two views?
[/quote]I don't think he's done anything wrong. I don't care how he fucks off so long as he does.
There's a bottle of cheap champagne at stake.
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=38644.msg1094261#msg1094261 date=1272395869]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38644.msg1094256#msg1094256 date=1272395605]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38644.msg1093839#msg1093839 date=1272358969]
*uncorks champagne*
[/quote]

If he leaves for Juve I will actually buy a bottle of Champagne to celebrate. I'll send you one too. (probably a cheap one)
[/quote]

You are going to celebrate the failure of a liverpool manager. I just can't get my head around that.
[/quote]No. Were ready to celebrate the departure of a Liverpool manager who failed.
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=38644.msg1094261#msg1094261 date=1272395869]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38644.msg1094256#msg1094256 date=1272395605]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38644.msg1093839#msg1093839 date=1272358969]
*uncorks champagne*
[/quote]

If he leaves for Juve I will actually buy a bottle of Champagne to celebrate. I'll send you one too. (probably a cheap one)
[/quote]

You are going to celebrate the failure of a liverpool manager. I just can't get my head around that.
[/quote]

I'd be celebrating the birth of a new era.
 
I'm going to bake the placenta and bring sandwiches for lunch for weeks afterwards. I may even get the Man Utd fella next door to eat one without knowing. LOLZARINGOS!!!!!!!!!
 
I'm really not comfortable with people celebrating the potential demise of a good Liverpool manager. I was pleased when Souness went but I didn't dance a jig.

And the fact that people are using as a stick to beat people with, makes it worse. But hell I'll get over it.

Oncy: here's a choice. You can have only one. Thatcher dead or Rafa out. Which is it?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38644.msg1094262#msg1094262 date=1272395975]
Can those who reckon Rafa would be doing something wrong by leaving, many of whom seem to be keen that he should leave, please explain to me how they reconcile those two views?
[/quote]

I'd say it's just an attempt to get a rise out of some of the cult members. They'll support anything that Rafa does, regardless of how it affects the club.

Makes you wonder if some of them are actually LFC supporters.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38644.msg1094269#msg1094269 date=1272396376]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=38644.msg1094261#msg1094261 date=1272395869]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38644.msg1094256#msg1094256 date=1272395605]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38644.msg1093839#msg1093839 date=1272358969]
*uncorks champagne*
[/quote]

If he leaves for Juve I will actually buy a bottle of Champagne to celebrate. I'll send you one too. (probably a cheap one)
[/quote]

You are going to celebrate the failure of a liverpool manager. I just can't get my head around that.
[/quote]

I'd be celebrating the birth of a new era.

[/quote]

First, to clarify, Benitez brought positives to the club, as well as negatives. Much like Houllier, he can't simply be branded a failure, in fact, I think it's even less appropriate with Benitez.

Regarding your celebrating a new era, I just don't buy it. You've been bitter and negative about Rafa for a long time now. You don't know what the next era would look like, you don't know the new manager, you don't know the new owners. It could easily be a worse era. You would be celebrating the end of one era, not the beginning of some unknown one.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=38644.msg1094271#msg1094271 date=1272396520]
I'm really not comfortable with people celebrating the potential demise of a good Liverpool manager. I was pleased when Souness went but I didn't dance a jig.

And the fact that people are using as a stick to beat people with, makes it worse. But hell I'll get over it.

Oncy: here's a choice. You can have only one. Thatcher dead or Rafa out. Which is it?
[/quote]Rafa out. Thatcher'll die soon enough, that'll give me something else to look forward too
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38644.msg1094273#msg1094273 date=1272396547]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=38644.msg1094262#msg1094262 date=1272395975]
Can those who reckon Rafa would be doing something wrong by leaving, many of whom seem to be keen that he should leave, please explain to me how they reconcile those two views?
[/quote]

I'd say it's just an attempt to get a rise out of some of the cult members. They'll support anything that Rafa does, regardless of how it affects the club.

Makes you wonder if some of them are actually LFC supporters.
[/quote

And that isn't the same? You're fishing again!
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=38644.msg1094278#msg1094278 date=1272396791]
It's getting so hard to know who the real fans are.
[/quote]Am I one?
*trims fingernails*
 
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=38644.msg1094276#msg1094276 date=1272396718]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38644.msg1094269#msg1094269 date=1272396376]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=38644.msg1094261#msg1094261 date=1272395869]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=38644.msg1094256#msg1094256 date=1272395605]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38644.msg1093839#msg1093839 date=1272358969]
*uncorks champagne*
[/quote]

If he leaves for Juve I will actually buy a bottle of Champagne to celebrate. I'll send you one too. (probably a cheap one)
[/quote]

You are going to celebrate the failure of a liverpool manager. I just can't get my head around that.
[/quote]

I'd be celebrating the birth of a new era.

[/quote]

First, to clarify, Benitez brought positives to the club, as well as negatives. Much like Houllier, he can't simply be branded a failure, in fact, I think it's even less appropriate with Benitez.

Regarding your celebrating a new era, I just don't buy it. You've been bitter and negative about Rafa for a long time now. You don't know what the next era would look like, you don't know the new manager, you don't know the new owners. It could easily be a worse era. You would be celebrating the end of one era, not the beginning of some unknown one.


[/quote]

We've failed and I don't think he'll ever get it right. I don't see the point in prolonging the misery.

Bring on someone new, someone with fresh ideas, someone who won't sign Robbie Keane for 20m.
 
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