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Porto (H) 2nd Leg

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Whilst I dont think Porto are good enough to beat us with 5 goals at Anfield, I think its easier to just adjust the attack then to start a whole makeshift team.
Salah and Bobby should be rested, but Mane might start.
 
I am in the camp of resting players for this game – we need to use any possible advantage before the United game and having fresher key players could help us in that game and further down the road as well. Besides we have a few squad players who very much deserve a run out.

------------------Karius------------------
---Gomez-----Matip-----Klavan-----
Clyne---------------------------Moreno
------------Hendo------Gini-------------
-----Lallana------Ings------Solanke--

Was going to post the exact same team, this is exactly what I'd go for.
He's off his rocker if he risks any of the front 3, and it's not like Karius needs a rest either.
 
We’re a team that have conceded a shit load of goals this season. I’m too worried about us fielding a side that’s toothless in attack.
Imagine the score line vs Sevilla had we not had competent attackers. No pace upfront would also mean they can put all their players far up the pitch.
Nah, let’s start with a strong side. Take no risk.
 
Rest Firmino, Salah, Can, Robertson, Van Dijk, give minutes to Ings, Lallana and maybe Clyne, keep Moreno away from the pitch. We're not conceding 5 goals.
 
------------------Karius------------------
Gomez--Matip--Klavan--Moreno
------------------Can/Hendo-----------------
----Gini----------Ings-----------Lallana
------Salah/Mane------Solanke------

Playing a diamond 442 makes more sense if we're resting at least two of our front three imo.
 
Man United will have to think about us and Savilla, it would be interesting to see which Maureen prioritises.

----------------------Karius-------------------
Clyne-----Matip------------VVD-------Milner
------------Hendo----------Gini/Can-------------

Lallana--------------------------------------------Mane
-----------------------Ings---------------------------------
 
How much is momentum going to help if one or two of our top players carry injuries into the United game and can't play ?

This tie is done. We could put our youth team out and not lose by 5 goals. Play a steady backline (no VvD or Robertson though) and midfield and rest the front three. We likely won't lose but even if we do it won't be by much (odd goal).

And momentum means SFA to any of these players, they will know it's a reserve/rested lineup and know that the only game in town this week is at Old Trafford at the weekend. That is where we need our strongest team, not risking our stars on a freezing cold midweek night at Anfield which is just perfect for tweaking thigh muscles.
You can't go into every game scared our players will get injured, the players have played two games in about four weeks, and this game will be an easy one for them considering the lead we have, there's no reason to rest them all unless the doctor advises us to. Some sensible rotation yes, but lets not line up to lose or draw, momentum is very important right now, we don't want to be going into the game against United after an insipid performance midweek, we want to be going into the United game with everyone talk about just how dangerous we are.
 
Man United will have to think about us and Savilla, it would be interesting to see which Maureen prioritises.

----------------------Karius-------------------
Clyne-----Matip------------VVD-------Milner
------------Hendo----------Gini/Can-------------

Lallana--------------------------------------------Mane
-----------------------Ings---------------------------------

This is the kind of team i'd like to see us play, sensible rotation, but still fielding a side that should be able to beat Porto.
 
We’re a team that have conceded a shit load of goals this season. I’m too worried about us fielding a side that’s toothless in attack.
Imagine the score line vs Sevilla had we not had competent attackers. No pace upfront would also mean they can put all their players far up the pitch.
Nah, let’s start with a strong side. Take no risk.

We won 5-0 away. We have been conceding to much at times, but I think you take into consideration that Porto come to attack us in hope of turning that 5-0 home deficit. I believe they wish they didn't have to make a trip to freezing Liverpool to defend for their lives to get a decent result.
 
I am in the camp of resting players for this game – we need to use any possible advantage before the United game and having fresher key players could help us in that game and further down the road as well. Besides we have a few squad players who very much deserve a run out.

------------------Karius------------------
---Gomez-----Matip-----Klavan-----
Clyne---------------------------Moreno
------------Hendo------Gini-------------
-----Lallana------Ings------Solanke--


I'd go with something like the above only with Milner in for Hendo and Ox instead of Solanke.
 
I'd go with something like the above only with Milner in for Hendo and Ox instead of Solanke.
That's a god point actually. Milner is unlikely to play against Utd imo (not the type of game he does his best work in during CM this season).
 
You can't go into every game scared our players will get injured, the players have played two games in about four weeks, and this game will be an easy one for them considering the lead we have, there's no reason to rest them all unless the doctor advises us to. Some sensible rotation yes, but lets not line up to lose or draw, momentum is very important right now, we don't want to be going into the game against United after an insipid performance midweek, we want to be going into the United game with everyone talk about just how dangerous we are.
I want to be going into it with Mane-Firmino-Salah up front and Robertson-VvD - X - X at the back. It isn't about being scared, it's about not taking unnecessary risks on a freezing night. Literally pointless.
 
I am in the camp of resting players for this game – we need to use any possible advantage before the United game and having fresher key players could help us in that game and further down the road as well. Besides we have a few squad players who very much deserve a run out.

------------------Karius------------------
---Gomez-----Matip-----Klavan-----
Clyne---------------------------Moreno
------------Hendo------Gini-------------
-----Lallana------Ings------Solanke--
Yep. That team is not going to get overun and has a decent enough chance of winning.
 
Klopp has made it clear that he won't be resting anybody, so no point really discussing line-ups. It'll be the usual, with a change or two in midfield and right-back perhaps.
 
I want to be going into it with Mane-Firmino-Salah up front and Robertson-VvD - X - X at the back. It isn't about being scared, it's about not taking unnecessary risks on a freezing night. Literally pointless.
It's not pointless, chopping and changing players destroys their rhythm and a bad result ruins our momentum, that's much much more like to happen than an injury occurring in a sensibly rotated squad, which we currently are. It baffles me that even with a 5-0 lead at Anfield people want to play not a rotated team, but a B team in the knock out rounds of the champions league, whats the point of football if not for nights like these? Enjoy it.
 
It's not pointless, chopping and changing players destroys their rhythm and a bad result ruins our momentum, that's much much more like to happen than an injury occurring in a sensibly rotated squad, which we currently are. It baffles me that even with a 5-0 lead at Anfield people want to play not a rotated team, but a B team in the knock out rounds of the champions league, whats the point of football if not for nights like these? Enjoy it.
You do know that Klopp has made more changes than any other manager in the PL right (and it's not even close) ? Absolutely destroyed our rhythm didn't it. I'd like to win both matches of course but if you said we'd lose this 1-2 with a reserve team and win 0-2 at OT with our full team, I'd take that every day of the week and twice on Sundays. And likely the only way we'll win at OT is with our strongest team.
 
You do know that Klopp has made more changes than any other manager in the PL right (and it's not even close) ? Absolutely destroyed our rhythm didn't it. I'd like to win both matches of course but if you said we'd lose this 1-2 with a reserve team and win 0-2 at OT with our full team, I'd take that every day of the week and twice on Sundays. And likely the only way we'll win at OT is with our strongest team.
Wholesale changes are what I'm talking about, I'm very pro rotation and would want us to rotate tomorrow, but I'm not pro fielding a B side in the champions league knockout stages. Of course I'd take the scenario above, but the point is that we're more likely to win if we play a good team and we win tomorrow than if we treat it like a reserve game and go into the United game with the narrative "Can this Liverpool side step up after a midweek loss to Porto".
 
Its not even that cold, its like fucking Tenerife here today after what we've had the past week.

Play a strong side, keep the confidence going (plus Ive already paid out £58 through the auto cup scheme and I don't want to spend 2 hours tomorrow night watching Ings and Solanke run about)
 
(plus Ive already paid out £58 through the auto cup scheme and I don't want to spend 2 hours tomorrow night watching Ings and Solanke run about)

I'd pay double

(I'm not going to pay double before you ask)
 
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/fir...es-fitness-liverpool-wijnaldum-woodburn-porto
[article]“Ben trained yesterday but he looked three kilos less, to be honest,” Jürgen Klopp told Liverpoolfc.com.

“Gini still hasn’t trained with the team. He had a little bit of an athletic programme, a little bit of running – not too much.

“They were really out for a few days. They are coming back but it will be too early for both of them.”[/article]
 
And then if one of our front three gets injured?

I get your logic, but it's fucking cold at the moment, which is when most muscle injuries tend to happen, & the next match is HUGE. Yes, the difference between second & third or fourth is minor in many ways, but in terms of sending a message, I think it's massive.

I want teams to view us next season like they view City now. Most teams have given up against them before the game has kicked off. That's a massive advantage.

And what if we rest them and we lose Sat and look rusty or get injuries anyway.
 
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