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[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41324.msg1151058#msg1151058 date=1281362363]
- Agger and Skrtel are much better defenders and players than carragher. Said this all along, Carragher is past his best now and should be on the bench. It showed in the world cup when he was beaten for pace by a player of ALTIDORES quality
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What has Altidores quality got to do with pace? I doubt Usain Bolt's a very good footballer, does that mean he shouldn't out-pace Carragher either? Hamann got destroyed by Brett Ormerod once for pace. That doesn't mean he should be dropped.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=41324.msg1151061#msg1151061 date=1281362588]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41324.msg1151058#msg1151058 date=1281362363]
- Agger and Skrtel are much better defenders and players than carragher. Said this all along, Carragher is past his best now and should be on the bench. It showed in the world cup when he was beaten for pace by a player of ALTIDORES quality
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What has Altidores quality got to do with pace? I doubt Usain Bolt's a very good footballer, does that mean he shouldn't out-pace Carragher either? Hamann got destroyed by Brett Ormerod once for pace. That doesn't mean he should be dropped.
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Im saying that if players of Altidores quality can rape carragher, then imagine what players like drogba, rooney, van persie would do to him.
 
Zlatan's not my favourite poster, but he's entitled to his opinion re Carra. He may be a club legend, but that doesn't mean he's beyond criticism.

Re Benitez, I'm pretty sure you've said worse yourself, Brendan.

He's said nothing offensive about Hillsborough or The S** or the city of Liverpool, so I'm not sure why you're having a go at him for being a 'bad' supporter. He's just a poor speller who doesn't like the way Carragher plays football.
 
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[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41324.msg1151058#msg1151058 date=1281362363]
- Agger and Skrtel are much better defenders and players than carragher. Said this all along, Carragher is past his best now and should be on the bench. It showed in the world cup when he was beaten for pace by a player of ALTIDORES quality
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What has Altidores quality got to do with pace? I doubt Usain Bolt's a very good footballer, does that mean he shouldn't out-pace Carragher either? Hamann got destroyed by Brett Ormerod once for pace. That doesn't mean he should be dropped.
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I wasn't really trying to discuss the veracity of all of his shite opinions and statements. Just wanted to illustrate that the way he couches his opinions - which ARE generally shite, admittedly - is really grating.

He's got nothing else in his locker, all his posts are like the ones I listed: those of a sweary dimwit with a poor grasp of English, little affinity with LFC in any way and a bad attitude.

Harshly treated my arse.
 
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[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=41324.msg1151061#msg1151061 date=1281362588]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41324.msg1151058#msg1151058 date=1281362363]
- Agger and Skrtel are much better defenders and players than carragher. Said this all along, Carragher is past his best now and should be on the bench. It showed in the world cup when he was beaten for pace by a player of ALTIDORES quality
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What has Altidores quality got to do with pace? I doubt Usain Bolt's a very good footballer, does that mean he shouldn't out-pace Carragher either? Hamann got destroyed by Brett Ormerod once for pace. That doesn't mean he should be dropped.
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I wasn't really trying to discuss the veracity of all of his shite opinions and statements. Just wanted to illustrate that the way he couches his opinions - which ARE generally shite, admittedly - is really grating.

He's got nothing else in his locker, all his posts are like the ones I listed: those of a sweary dimwit with a poor grasp of English, little affinity with LFC in any way and a bad attitude.

Harshly treated my arse.


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Pretty sure those comments were from the start of last season, or a majority of them. So i think ive improved my "english" as some people on here didnt really like people abrieviating words.

Anyway im pretty sure im a bigger supporter of liverpool than you are and have more knowlegde of football than you. So i dont want to waste my time on people like you.

I dont care how im treated on this site, makes no difference to me if im liked or not, but one thing is certain and thats.. your a cunt and i dont like you 🙂

ohhh and regarding me posting the same shit over and over, coming from you thats funny as you only ever post your hate for lucas and insua 😉 maybe you should take your words and use them for yourself
 
Anyway im pretty sure im a bigger supporter of liverpool than you are and have more knowlegde of football than you. So i dont want to waste my time on people like you.

I dont care how im treated on this site, makes no difference to me if im liked or not, but one thing is certain and thats.. your a cunt and i dont like you 🙂

Yes, you're a bigger supporter than I am. You have more knowledge of football.

It's clear to everyone.

You're an embarrassment, zlatan.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41324.msg1151075#msg1151075 date=1281363872]
Anyway im pretty sure im a bigger supporter of liverpool than you are and have more knowlegde of football than you. So i dont want to waste my time on people like you.

I dont care how im treated on this site, makes no difference to me if im liked or not, but one thing is certain and thats.. your a cunt and i dont like you 🙂

Yes, you're a bigger supporter than I am. You have more knowledge of football.

It's clear to everyone.

You're an embarrassment, zlatan.
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lol its not even worth replying anymore to someone like you, your a waste of time and space mate 🙂
 
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41324.msg1151067#msg1151067 date=1281362904]
Zlatan's not my favourite poster, but he's entitled to his opinion re Carra. He may be a club legend, but that doesn't mean he's beyond criticism.

Re Benitez, I'm pretty sure you've said worse yourself, Brendan.

He's said nothing offensive about Hillsborough or The S** or the city of Liverpool, so I'm not sure why you're having a go at him for being a 'bad' supporter. He's just a poor speller who doesn't like the way Carragher plays football.
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No player or manager is above criticism when it's warranted.

And in fairness, Bunny...whilst the slating he's getting may be a tad excessive, it's not because he's criticised Carra.

It's because he's been very dismissive of things which are important to the club; and whilst Oncy is perfectly right when he says that everyone as a right to be a fan in whatever way they see fit...I personally feel that that has to be tempered with the realization that he is exactly the kind of far-flung fan that gets scorned.

And that bothers me because other far-flung fans are tarred with the same brush.

Yes, something like that shouldnt bother me, but it does.

I know someone will come in now and say 'it's not about OOT' but zlatan is the exact reason why it even comes up.

Anyway, fuck it...I'm not going to get anymore riled up about it...

For the first time in about 5 years, I'm about to use the 'ignore' button.

Bye, zlatan.

FWIW, it's not personal.
 
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[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=41324.msg1151067#msg1151067 date=1281362904]
Zlatan's not my favourite poster, but he's entitled to his opinion re Carra. He may be a club legend, but that doesn't mean he's beyond criticism.

Re Benitez, I'm pretty sure you've said worse yourself, Brendan.

He's said nothing offensive about Hillsborough or The S** or the city of Liverpool, so I'm not sure why you're having a go at him for being a 'bad' supporter. He's just a poor speller who doesn't like the way Carragher plays football.
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No player or manager is above criticism when it's warranted.

And in fairness, Bunny...whilst the slating he's getting may be a tad excessive, it's not because he's criticised Carra.

It's because he's been very dismissive of things which are important to the club; and whilst Oncy is perfectly right when he says that everyone as a right to be a fan in whatever way they see fit...I personally feel that that has to be tempered with the realization that he is exactly the kind of far-flung fan that gets scorned.

And that bothers me because other far-flung fans are tarred with the same brush.

Yes, something like that shouldnt bother me, but it does.

I know someone will come in now and say 'it's not about OOT' but zlatan is the exact reason why it even comes up.

Anyway, fuck it...I'm not going to get anymore riled up about it...

For the first time in about 5 years, I'm about to use the 'ignore' button.

Bye, zlatan.

FWIW, it's not personal.
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So your saying because i have no idea about a carragher song i am not a true liverpool fan? righteo mate 😉

Didnt know that the song meant so much to you, as that is the only thing i said i didnt care about.

anyway whatever, doesnt make a difference to my life
 
This is (kinda) like that time someone asked who Scouser Tommy was and Jamo flipped out at him and pronounced himself a superfan and everyone else pathetic useless fickle fans.
 
Right you fucking quegs I'm on my jols in croatia and interweb is scarce so stop arguing with some wife beating scum twat from some backwater and get to informing me about crouch and chinese and shit, please.

By the way I've got a share for arse
 
[quote author=Asim link=topic=41324.msg1151104#msg1151104 date=1281366718]
This is (kinda) like that time someone asked who Scouser Tommy was and Jamo flipped out at him and pronounced himself a superfan and everyone else pathetic useless fickle fans.
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Slight difference.

I wouldnt assume Scouser Tommy was unimportant just because I didnt know who he was.
 
It's nothing like Jamo's 'superfan' bollocks

He used 'team of carraghers' in a pejorative way, I thought it was embarrassing, he then claimed he didn't know or care about any LFC songs and dug himself into a hole

I don't feel responsible or guilty for providing him with the spade, I've never hidden my dislike for him
 
zlatan is starting to remind me slightly of ardja.

In any case anyone who claims that carra is shit and finished whilst at the same time proclaiming that aquilani should be on the list of players we shouldn't ever sell is always gonna set alarm bells ringing in the 'knows nothing' stakes. and quite rightly.
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=41324.msg1151134#msg1151134 date=1281368984]
zlatan is starting to remind me slightly of ardja.

In any case anyone who claims that carra is shit and finished whilst at the same time proclaiming that aquilani should be on the list of players we shouldn't ever sell is always gonna set alarm bells ringing in the 'knows nothing' stakes. and quite rightly.
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So im guessing you would prefer to have lucas in our midfield? I didnt say carragher is SHIT, all i said was that he is PAST his best and should be a sub now not a first team starter. You see unlike you, i watch the different leagues and i see what players are like, and aquilani is a good player as he showed near the end of last season. Dont judge a player until you have watched them play consistently
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=41324.msg1151171#msg1151171 date=1281372336]
Do you really need to be so aggressive to people all the time?

'unlike you'. How do you know?
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Because if he had watched Aquilani play in the serie a when he was fit, he would understand that aquilani is a really gifted footballer. Just because he has had some injury problems, doesnt mean people should write him off without giving him a proper chance.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41324.msg1151173#msg1151173 date=1281372411]
You see?

Bellend
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are we really starting this again mate?
 
'Unlike me'? How do you know what i do and do not watch?

I'm not saying Aquilani is a bad player. i am saying he has a poor signing thus far and am questioning whether or not he is worth keeping, given we have a weak squad and don't really have the capacity to keep a player who might be good at some point!

So that is me backing up my view. from what i can see your view that Aquilani is one player we should not consider offers for appears to be based on you seeing him play in another league and being alright when he wasn't injured.
 
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=41324.msg1151134#msg1151134 date=1281368984]
zlatan is starting to remind me slightly of ardja.

In any case anyone who claims that carra is shit and finished whilst at the same time proclaiming that aquilani should be on the list of players we shouldn't ever sell is always gonna set alarm bells ringing in the 'knows nothing' stakes. and quite rightly.
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So im guessing you would prefer to have lucas in our midfield? I didnt say carragher is SHIT, all i said was that he is PAST his best and should be a sub now not a first team starter. You see unlike you, i watch the different leagues and i see what players are like, and aquilani is a good player as he showed near the end of last season. Dont judge a player until you have watched them play consistently
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Yep, as soon as someone uses that tone (Unlike you!), it's quite clear they know fuck all and they're just here to be patronising bellends, when in reality they'd be much better suited to holding hands standing in a circle on RAWK.
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=41324.msg1151180#msg1151180 date=1281372760]
'Unlike me'? How do you know what i do and do not watch?

I'm not saying Aquilani is a bad player. i am saying he has a poor signing thus far and am questioning whether or not he is worth keeping, given we have a weak squad and don't really have the capacity to keep a player who might be good at some point!

So that is me backing up my view. from what i can see your view that Aquilani is one player we should not consider offers for appears to be based on you seeing him play in another league and being alright when he wasn't injured.
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Because if you had watched the serie a over the years and seen him play you would be of a different opinion to the one you are at the moment.

Ok fair enough, obviously if an offer of 20mil came for aquilani id consider it due to his injury record but i wouldnt sell him for 10mil like some of the people on this site have said before.

A player doesnt lose their skills, they just lose form and hopefully recapture it. Something he started doing at the end of the season when he got a few games under his belt.

By me saying id prefer aquilani starting and you not agreeing, then you must be in the opinion that lucas is a better player and should be starting ahead of him?
 
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[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41324.msg1151169#msg1151169 date=1281372121]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=41324.msg1151134#msg1151134 date=1281368984]
zlatan is starting to remind me slightly of ardja.

In any case anyone who claims that carra is shit and finished whilst at the same time proclaiming that aquilani should be on the list of players we shouldn't ever sell is always gonna set alarm bells ringing in the 'knows nothing' stakes. and quite rightly.
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So im guessing you would prefer to have lucas in our midfield? I didnt say carragher is SHIT, all i said was that he is PAST his best and should be a sub now not a first team starter. You see unlike you, i watch the different leagues and i see what players are like, and aquilani is a good player as he showed near the end of last season. Dont judge a player until you have watched them play consistently
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Yep, as soon as someone uses that tone (Unlike you!), it's quite clear they know fuck all and they're just here to be patronising bellends, when in reality they'd be much better suited to holding hands standing in a circle on RAWK.


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Or maybe they actually watch the different leagues around the world and have a better knowledge of the players not just in the premierleague 😉
 
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[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41324.msg1151169#msg1151169 date=1281372121]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=41324.msg1151134#msg1151134 date=1281368984]
zlatan is starting to remind me slightly of ardja.

In any case anyone who claims that carra is shit and finished whilst at the same time proclaiming that aquilani should be on the list of players we shouldn't ever sell is always gonna set alarm bells ringing in the 'knows nothing' stakes. and quite rightly.
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So im guessing you would prefer to have lucas in our midfield? I didnt say carragher is SHIT, all i said was that he is PAST his best and should be a sub now not a first team starter. You see unlike you, i watch the different leagues and i see what players are like, and aquilani is a good player as he showed near the end of last season. Dont judge a player until you have watched them play consistently
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Yep, as soon as someone uses that tone (Unlike you!), it's quite clear they know fuck all and they're just here to be patronising bellends, when in reality they'd be much better suited to holding hands standing in a circle on RAWK.


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Or maybe they actually watch the different leagues around the world and have a better knowledge of the players not just in the premierleague 😉
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Nah, there's no debate over whether someone knows more than someone else just because they watch a bit more football. The debate is, if someone is patronising enough to use that tone then aren't they a bit of a bellend?

Actually, did I say debate? Scrub that, there seems a resoundingly unanimous opinion.
 
What's even more galling - but at the same time rather amusing - is someone who goes for the patronising approach, but isn't very bright, or indeed articulate

Or from within 10,000 miles of Liverpool
 
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[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41324.msg1151192#msg1151192 date=1281373289]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41324.msg1151182#msg1151182 date=1281372873]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41324.msg1151169#msg1151169 date=1281372121]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=41324.msg1151134#msg1151134 date=1281368984]
zlatan is starting to remind me slightly of ardja.

In any case anyone who claims that carra is shit and finished whilst at the same time proclaiming that aquilani should be on the list of players we shouldn't ever sell is always gonna set alarm bells ringing in the 'knows nothing' stakes. and quite rightly.
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So im guessing you would prefer to have lucas in our midfield? I didnt say carragher is SHIT, all i said was that he is PAST his best and should be a sub now not a first team starter. You see unlike you, i watch the different leagues and i see what players are like, and aquilani is a good player as he showed near the end of last season. Dont judge a player until you have watched them play consistently
[/quote]

Yep, as soon as someone uses that tone (Unlike you!), it's quite clear they know fuck all and they're just here to be patronising bellends, when in reality they'd be much better suited to holding hands standing in a circle on RAWK.


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Or maybe they actually watch the different leagues around the world and have a better knowledge of the players not just in the premierleague 😉
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Nah, there's no debate over whether someone knows more than someone else just because they watch a bit more football. The debate is, if someone is patronising enough to use that tone then aren't they a bit of a bellend?

Actually, did I say debate? Scrub that, there seems a resoundingly unanimous opinion.
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So your saying that someone that watches most of the leagues compared to someone who watches one league have the same amount of football knowledge?
 
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