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Pepe calls for patience

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/sep/13/jose-reina-liverpool-premier-league

José Reina has given a brutally honest assessment of Liverpool's prospects this season by admitting it could be "a while" before the club are capable of finishing in the top four, never mind challenging for the title. The Liverpool goalkeeper's comments will do little to improve the mood at Anfield after an uninspiring start to the season but Reina has pleaded for patience and urged the club's supporters to be "realistic" about their expectations.

Liverpool have collected five points from their opening four Premier League matches and Sunday's disappointing goalless draw at Birmingham City means they are seven points adrift of the leaders, Chelsea. With a visit to Manchester United to come in the league on Sunday, things could get worse before they get better for Liverpool, although Reina believes the supporters must understand that the club are currently going through a transitional phase. "We have to make sure that people don't think of winning the league or being in the top four already at this moment. It is going to take a while," he said.

Reina has pointed to the number of new signings Roy Hodgson has brought in since he took over from Rafael Benítez in the summer and the tactical changes that the new manager has made to the way the team play as legitimate reasons for their underwhelming start. The Spaniard has also highlighted the financial constraints that Liverpool are operating under while George Gillett and Tom Hicks are at the helm and the impact that their troubled reign has had on the club's transfer activity, in particular during this summer.

"We have got to get used to the new players and then the system. There are many good teams and our target is to be up there but we have to be realistic."

Asked whether securing a qualification berth for the Champions League this season was realistic, Reina replied: "I don't know. We will find out at the end of the season what we can achieve. Of course, we have to challenge for being up there. Maybe it will take a while and people have to be patient. I know [that no one has patience]. But we are just asking for a little bit.

"We did not spend much money [in the summer] and in football, to compete with the others, sometimes it is important to do it. We couldn't. We sold some players and we used the money for buying some others. It's going to be like this for a little while until we sort out the owners' situations."

Reina was outstanding at St Andrew's, where he made two brilliant first-half saves to deny Cameron Jerome and Craig Gardner as Liverpool escaped with a point. Liverpool have failed to beat Birmingham in the league in their last nine matches, a run that stretches back to 2004, when Gérard Houllier was in charge and Michael Owen and Emile Heskey were playing up front. Reina, however, refused to be downbeat about the outcome.

"We could easily have lost the game, so we should be happy with the point," he said. "It is not what we look for but I've never beaten Birmingham in the league in five years and it is always difficult [at St Andrew's]. I don't like to play there because it is always tough and we never get the proper results there. But let's look at it in a positive way. We won a point and we have to go forward from here."
 
Proper captain material is Pepe.

But it looks like the level of expectation amongst the players isn't particularly high either. Perhaps it's unreasonable to want a bit of an injection of optimism, but I do. I'd like a rallying call and some indication that there is a bit of belief at the club even if ultimately we don't succeed. I'm just tired of constantly being brought back down to earth - it already feels like we're six feet under.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=41875.msg1174055#msg1174055 date=1284446602]
Proper captain material is Pepe.

But it looks like the level of expectation amongst the players isn't particularly high either. Perhaps it's unreasonable to want a bit of an injection of optimism, but I do. I'd like a rallying call and some indication that there is a bit of belief at the club even if ultimately we don't succeed. I'm just tired of constantly being brought back down to earth - it already feels like we're six feet under.

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I'm sure that will come on the back of a good result, but I know what you mean, I think he's just trying to lift the pressure on the side, hopefully we'll do our talking on the pitch sooner rather than later, we've mouthed off enough in the past about what we will and won't do.
 
We sometimes regard ourselves as separate from the players; but it must hurt some of them as bad as it does us...arguably much more so since we depend on them to fix things.

I'd bet when Reina thinks about replacing Alonso and 'Itz-all-lies' with Poulsen, Lucas and Aquilani he gos off and has a cry.
 
I suppose we must be bedding in a new tactical system; I'm just having trouble distinguishing it from the old one at the moment.
 
I see no reason why we can't finish 4th, if we continue in this no risk, cautious, cowardly fashion we 'certainly' wont finish fourth. blame the owners for lack of funds but who is to blame for lack of ambition on the pitch? G&H's penny pinching doesn't extend to the extra time minutes board, that board is supplied by the FA.
 
I just want to know exactly what was said and by who to Torres and Gerrard in the summer. Cos it certainly wasn't this.
 
[quote author=vantage link=topic=41875.msg1174075#msg1174075 date=1284451701]
I just want to know exactly what was said and by who to Torres and Gerrard in the summer. Cos it certainly wasn't this.
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And what happened to Pursssslow's £20m stashed in his "player account"
 
I won't judge the manager or the team, after we at least have had the chance to play our best eleven for a period of time.
That team won't include both Poulsen and Lucas.

With both Meireles and Cole added to the line up, we might acutally see some good football being played.
At least the balance of the defence looked much better with Konchesky at left back, shame none of our centre backs can head the ball properly though.
 
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[quote author=vantage link=topic=41875.msg1174075#msg1174075 date=1284451701]
I just want to know exactly what was said and by who to Torres and Gerrard in the summer. Cos it certainly wasn't this.
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And what happened to Pursssslow's £20m stashed in his "player account"
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Well that was obviously bollox as was Hicks promise of a 'Big Summer'. But whilst I accept that these lying fuckers will tell us anything they think they want to hear, I can't imagine that the advisers of Torres or Gerrard would be quite so naive. They know that the current board have a history of lying so surely they would have asked for some kind of assurances.
 
Good to see Roys getting his message through to the players.
Dont expect to win!
Dont worry if we dont get fourth!
We wont win anything!

Hes a wobbly faced Mr Motivator!
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41875.msg1174085#msg1174085 date=1284452470]
Good to see Roys getting his message through to the players.
Dont expect to win!
Dont worry if we dont get fourth!
We wont win anything!

Hes a wobbly faced Mr Motivator!
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He's the steady hand we require to steer us to 7th without all of the media noise and grizzling that we had with Benitez
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=41875.msg1174085#msg1174085 date=1284452470]
Good to see Roys getting his message through to the players.
Dont expect to win!
Dont worry if we dont get fourth!
We wont win anything!

Hes a wobbly faced Mr Motivator!
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He's the steady hand we require to steer us to 7th without all of the media noise and grizzling that we had with Benitez
[/quote]Well yeah, aaaaaaanythings better than the Rafa show. Jowelly Jowelerson is the fucking man!
 
I'm fed up with being patient.

Just turn up looking like you want to win.

Stop with the positive thinking and start with the positive playing.
 
when the fuck did liverpool become the defeatist outfit we are today? imagine if shankly had the 'wasn't expecting to win' attitude.
 
It has to be said that Roy's statements about our ambitions are souding more like his statements about Blackburn's ambitions when he was there. You'd think he'd have learned from that. There's a difference between talking down unrealistic expectations and casting a depressing and defeatist pall over the whole fucking club.
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=41875.msg1174137#msg1174137 date=1284458449]
It has to be said that Roy's statements about our ambitions are souding more like his statements about Blackburn's ambitions when he was there. You'd think he'd have learned from that. There's a difference between talking down unrealistic expectations and casting a depressing and defeatist pall over the whole fucking club.
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He's like Marvin the fucking depressed android from Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy.

"Oh, great. I'm managing Liverpool. That's not going to go well, is it?"
 
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[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=41875.msg1174137#msg1174137 date=1284458449]
It has to be said that Roy's statements about our ambitions are souding more like his statements about Blackburn's ambitions when he was there. You'd think he'd have learned from that. There's a difference between talking down unrealistic expectations and casting a depressing and defeatist pall over the whole fucking club.
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He's like Marvin the fucking depressed android from Hitchiker's Guide To The Galaxy.
"Oh, great. I'm managing Liverpool. That's not going to go well, is it?"
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He might as well have just told us that there's nothing to look forward to this year. The only thing we had to hold onto at the start of the season was an irrational, hopeful notion that somehow things would just click and we'd be a goodish team again. He's destroyed any remnant of that hope.
 
To be fair, he did also say that we'd probably lose to Rabotnicki, that Torres might well leave, and that he'd barely exchanged a word with Joe Cole. I don't mind him writing off our chances if we then go on to prove him wrong.
 
we wouldn't do any worse if we didn't have a manager than have grandpa in charge.

if it carries on like this torres will be gone in the summer, gerrard will fuck off to italy or somewhere, roy will have replaced anyone half decent with mid table premiership shite and lucas will be captain.

we need to be decisive - 10 games maximum and if we're more than 6 points off 4th he needs to be sacked.

the old man is bordering as being the worst managerial appointment in living memory.
 
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we wouldn't do any worse if we didn't have a manager than have grandpa in charge.

if it carries on like this torres will be gone in the summer, gerrard will fuck off to italy or somewhere, roy will have replaced anyone half decent with mid table premiership shite and lucas will be captain.

we need to be decisive - 10 games maximum and if we're more than 6 points off 4th he needs to be sacked.

the old man is bordering as being the worst managerial appointment in living memory.
[/quote]Oh shut up you melodramatic twat. He's lost once in 8 competetive games.
GET.A.GRIP
 
[quote author=ragehard link=topic=41875.msg1174280#msg1174280 date=1284478352]


the old man is bordering as being the worst managerial appointment in living memory.
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Oh fuck off.

We thought in the Summer we were going to lose Gerrard and Torres, they stayed, we thought we wouldn't buy anyone, we bought Cole and Meireles.

WE'VE PLAYED FOUR FUCKING GAMES!

I really despair of some of the over positive bollocks that does the rounds on forums, but idiots on here lately are really fucking me off.
 
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41875.msg1174286#msg1174286 date=1284479253]


WE'VE PLAYED FOUR FUCKING GAMES!


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heh heh we've played fucking games, you mean like 'hide the sausage' 😉
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41875.msg1174288#msg1174288 date=1284479514]
He *is* the least inspiring and exciting Liverpool manager in 50 years

That's undeniable.
[/quote]I dont think hes any less inspiring than Evans or Houllier. But anyway its a leap from 'our' least inspiring manager to 'the' worst manager in history.
 
Houllier came with a great reputation and won us trophies.

Evans was seen as the rightful continuation of the Boot Room

Hodge is a budge-faced old man with a reputation for winning fuck all in 3 decades of management, came 12th with Fulham, and was sacked by Blackburn with them bottom of the table

he's fucking hopeless
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41875.msg1174294#msg1174294 date=1284480060]
Houllier came with a great reputation and won us trophies.

Evans was seen as the rightful continuation of the Boot Room

Hodge is a budge-faced old man with a reputation for winning fuck all in 3 decades of management, came 12th with Fulham, and was sacked by Blackburn with them bottom of the table

he's fucking hopeless
[/quote]Fair enough. I dont recall either Evans or Houllier 'inspiring' me when they were appointed. In fact one of our most inspiring appointments was Souness, and that didnt work out too well.
 
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