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Owen: "I tried to come back"

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I'd strongly suggest that one thing he as an official club ambassador is not supposed to do is wax lyrical about the Mancs. Tip them for the title if you feel you must, but leave it at that instead of sounding like a fanboy.

It's all very easy to point out the obvious things he should *not* do as a purported ambassador for LFC, but it would be useful if you, or anyone at all, had any advice - or indeed evidence - of what he *should* do as an ambassador for LFC
 
Talk the club up and serve its interests in any way for which the opportunity presents itself. This, perhaps surprisingly, does not include bigging up its deadliest rivals. As far as evidence is concerned: when I was graduating with a degree in languages I considered a career in the Foreign Office, and the above seemed to be pretty much what our ambassadors did. I doubt things have changed much in that respect.
 
Talk the club up and serve its interests in any way for which the opportunity presents itself. This, perhaps surprisingly, does not include bigging up its deadliest rivals. As far as evidence is concerned: when I was graduating with a degree in languages I considered a career in the Foreign Office, and the above seemed to be pretty much what our ambassadors did. I doubt things have changed much in that respect.

Right. And is there any evidence that Owen has done this?

What I'm trying to say in a typically circuitous, snarky way, is what the fuck does an ambassador for LFC actually do?
 
If the club wants him to devote all of his time to being exclusively supportive of the club and to not say anything about other clubs, it will need to buy out his BT and other contracts and employ him full time.
 
If the club wants him to devote all of his time to being exclusively supportive of the club and to not say anything about other clubs, it will need to buy out his BT and other contracts and employ him full time.

That's a win for BT viewers too. He's not very good at being on telly or commentating or punditry

He may improve, but it's not been a sparkling start from what little I've seen
 
Of course there's no need for a total embargo on club ambassadors commenting more widely. What I'm saying (perfectly clearly AFAIC) is that I'd expect them to keep praise of other clubs - especially ManU - within sensible limits. That tweet on the previous page seems to me to overstep such limits
 
OK. We're all fairly comfortable with the 'don't do' list so far

What about the other list?

I'm beginning to think this might be my dream job
 
Or at least try to make it seem that he's begrudgingly predicting the Mancs to win the title, the way our other non-idiotic ex players do.

It's the way he said it which will put lots of LFC supporters off. Same thing with the extract from the book. How could lieing like that possibly help him?
 
"Should do" list then: meet and greet on match day, go on tours and help with the commercial side, help out at the Academy, pretty much anything which crops up that they can lend a hand with. It's substantially a sinecure to help club alumni pass the time, so the job description isn't likely to be that specific.
 
That's a win for BT viewers too. He's not very good at being on telly or commentating or punditry

He may improve, but it's not been a sparkling start from what little I've seen

He's been awful. But what the BBC did for Lineker should've been a template for such figures. The BBC put Lineker on the radio first - generally forgotten these days - where they'd work like mad to get him to evolve beyond his monotonous midlands drone - and only then eased him on to TV. I still hate him but there's no denying he's improved as a broadcaster dramatically. Commercial operators just bung these ex-pros on to TV these days and don't even seem to intervene with advice. Take Robbie Fowler - he says 'Look' and 'If I'm being honest' every other damned sentence, and he's not changed after several years of doing TV punditry.
 
He's not exactly lying for sure.

Just exaggerating maybe

If he'd been offered the same deal by Liverpool and United, he'd have chosen Liverpool surely?

God. I hope so.
 
Kenny is the best example of how a club ambassador should behave, though he's not held back by media contracts.
He visits the kids, he's helped scout players in the past, visits first team training, reserves games, speaks highly of LFC in public, never criticizes the club or its staff, is wonderful with supporters, etc, etc, etc.
 
OK. We're all fairly comfortable with the 'don't do' list so far

What about the other list?

I'm beginning to think this might be my dream job

You're already living the dream...

Doesn't an ambassador just show up at certain events and place himself in certain situations showing the club in a good light? I don't imagine there is much more to it than that.
 
He's been awful. But what the BBC did for Lineker should've been a template for such figures. The BBC put Lineker on the radio first - generally forgotten these days - where they'd work like mad to get him to evolve beyond his monotonous midlands drone - and only then eased him on to TV. I still hate him but there's no denying he's improved as a broadcaster dramatically. Commercial operators just bung these ex-pros on to TV these days and don't even seem to intervene with advice. Take Robbie Fowler - he says 'Look' and 'If I'm being honest' every other damned sentence, and he's not changed after several years of doing TV punditry.

Yeah. He's a really good broadcaster. But now he's so good, he's getting even more smug and irritating than he already was.

He's actually turned into his Walkers Crisps persona

Although I must confess to never really liking him in the first place, so I'm biased
 
"Should do" list then: meet and greet on match day, go on tours and help with the commercial side, help out at the Academy, pretty much anything which crops up that they can lend a hand with. It's substantially a sinecure to help club alumni pass the time, so the job description isn't likely to be that specific.

That's what is so odd. It's so fucking vague and pointless it seems to be a grown-up mascot role, like poor old Alan Kennedy has been doing for years, while his old team-mates sniggered at him from the bar
 
"Should do" list then: meet and greet on match day, go on tours and help with the commercial side, help out at the Academy, pretty much anything which crops up that they can lend a hand with. It's substantially a sinecure to help club alumni pass the time, so the job description isn't likely to be that specific.

I said on a previous page what I thought he should be doing, but the official explanation was this vague sentence: 'This new role will see the former Liverpool striker engaging with fans around the world and representing the club at various fan and commercial events'.

It's all a bit foggy because we already had several ambassadors - Rush, Alan Kennedy, McManaman, Fowler, McAllister, Garcia, etc - who seem to just serve on an ad hoc basis. Owen's was supposed to be something more significant than that, but the definition is no clearer.

We've got loads of ex-pros who still go to games and would willingly do all the glad-handing required for match days and commercial stuff. I'd rather Owen was used in a much more rigorous role for helping attract new talent, re-building the local scouting network, and doing a bit of work with up and coming strikers like Woodburn.
 
Would Owen have the motivation to do that Macca?
I have my doubts. I just don't get the impression he cares that much.
 
He was free, still had something to offer (not loads, but he was decent those 6 months, got a few goals. The full season after, not so much) and I reckon he helped the atmosphere around the place.
It certainly made me happy. I fucking loved it when he re-signed. His return debut was brilliant as well. The crowd went nuts (and rightly so) then the cheeky bugger almost pulled off an amazing overhead kick that hit the post! Such a shame that never went in but it was glorious.
 
Would Owen have the motivation to do that Macca?
I have my doubts. I just don't get the impression he cares that much.

Well I certainly didn't think so, but then he accepted the role, which I think, like most on here, I found baffling.
 
I'm not totally sure but we needed a 4th striker. Fowler was available for free.
We played with 2 strikers if I remember it correctly. Crouch, Morientes, Cissé weren't that prolific I think.
We needed goals.
Won the FA cup that season but Fowler was cup tied.
We needed Crouch and Morientes for the wings
 
Talk the club up and serve its interests in any way for which the opportunity presents itself. This, perhaps surprisingly, does not include bigging up its deadliest rivals. As far as evidence is concerned: when I was graduating with a degree in languages I considered a career in the Foreign Office, and the above seemed to be pretty much what our ambassadors did. I doubt things have changed much in that respect.
I think the mods should appoint JJ as "Official SCM Ambassador", he has all the qualities & qualifications, and you won't find him bigging up RAWK
 
Gambling ?

I heard from someone working for an Irish bookie that he was shit hot at it.

He opened an account , he only dealt with one person high up in the organisation. He was 350k up after a month. That person used to place his own bet after every bet from Owen and cleaned up.

Maybe he was shit the other 11 months of the year
I think that might be the highs that addicted gamblers live for Ross....we all know how that works out long term (except if youre Slur Alex, who is a freak).
 
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