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They are awe so in love with Pochettino at Redcafe.... And want Kane and Alderweild as well.. They really wish they were Spurs don't they?
 
doctor_mac said:
Finally, a bit of common sense! However, I think Ince is writing himself out of the picture unnecessarily. I think he has all the attributes needed. About time the Guv'nor became the Guv'nor!
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Yes and he could sign Tom. What an addition that would be.
 
From a 2014 article on Solskjaer's stint at Cardiff (Binnyfied):
Under Solskjaer’s management, Cardiff City are hurtling backwards at an alarming rate of knots and I don’t see any evidence of the Norwegian proving he can stop the demise any time soon. I was amongst those excited when Solskjaer was first brought into the club as manager. He had a burgeoning reputation as one of the brightest young bosses in the game, was a wanted man in boardrooms in the Premier League and on the continent.

Well talk about hype getting in the way of hard-nosed football reality. Solskjaer has been a desperate disappointment as Cardiff boss and the team’s dip down to 17th in the Championship table is entirely down to his mis-management. Cardiff, under Solskjaer, appear confused, chaotic, and clueless. They are like that because of his non-stop tinkering, which has led to a lack of consistency and pattern, and some truly crass decision-making when it comes to team selection.

Harsh words, I accept, which will probably be dismissed by Solskjaer as the views of someone who “knows nothing about football.” That age-old cliche those professionals in the game trot out when they come in for criticism. But my views are no different to those of many of Cardiff’s paying customers who have lost any confidence in Solskjaer.
Vincent Tan has spent a fortune on giving his Norwegian boss what, on paper at least, looks by far the strongest squad in the Championship. Certainly the biggest, with defender Sean Morrison trumpeting that Cardiff’s second X1 should be good enough to earn promotion.

The trouble is that under Solskjaer, we don’t know what the first XI is, let alone the second team. Tinker, tinker, tinker. Change, change, change. David Marshall in goal, then throw the other places up in the air for grabs. It’s early days, of course, but Cardiff are 17th in the table for a reason. They lack as much shape, pattern and tactical consistency today as they did when Solskjaer first entered the fray as manager back at the beginning of January. I hesitate to say he’s lost the plot because, as far as some Cardiff fans are concerned, we wonder if he had it in the first place.

These are the facts. Solskjaer has been in charge of Cardiff for 25 League games. Just five of those have been won.
Only once, against Stoke last season, has he kept the same starting X1. He seems as far removed from knowing his best team today as he did for that first match in charge against West Ham. That was a home loss, of course, just like the last two games against Norwich and Middlesbrough, results which have led to Bluebirds fans clamouring for change and demanding Tan asks Tony Pulis to ride to the rescue.[...]

When he first came into the job, Solskjaer pledged an adventurous, free-flowing brand of football to wow the fans. He wanted ball-playing centre-backs, which is why Bruno Manga and Juan Cala were chosen against Middlesbrough. What we saw in the second half was lump it up to Kenwyne Jones route one rubbish. A style totally alien to Manga and Cala.

It got Cardiff absolutely nowhere, was the worst display of that method of football I’ve seen from the Bluebirds since Dave Jones’ Class of 2011 adopted similar tactics in a play-off loss to Reading. That night Jon Parkin was up front. Enough said. Cardiff were booed off the field against Boro, at half-time and full-time, by angry supporters making their views known to Solskjaer. Others simply voted with their feet, the attendance dipping below 20,000 for the first time in four years. This was the lowest League gate at Cardiff City Stadium since the 18,000 who attended a 1-1 draw with Sheffield United back on March 24, 2010.

Solskjaer has presided over some utterly abject Cardiff display at home and Middlesbrough was every bit as bad as the Bluebirds crashing to Hull and Crystal Palace. The most damning thing about that game wasn’t the result, more the fact the Boro came to Cardiff’s lair, in front of the Bluebirds’ own fans, and were more committed. Any 50-50 duels invariably went Boro’s way. There were some loaded 60-40 in Cardiff’s favour that Boro also won. Their commitment and endeavour was a lesson to Solskjaer. A throwback, in a way, to the sort of Cardiff team we had become accustomed to under Mackay.

But everything is tied in, I believe, to the confusion that reigns as a result of the non-stop changes. The players simply don’t seem to know how to get themselves back into a game. The 90 minutes were encapsulated right at the end when Peter Whittingham, one of the finest set piece experts I have seen, took two corners as Cardiff searched the equaliser. The first sailed over everyone’s heads, the second didn’t even beat the first man. Pathetic.

Clearly the Norwegian titles Solskjaer won with Molde and reserve gongs with Manchester United mean absolutely nothing when it comes to the sharp end of our game here. When Solskjaer breezed in, huge reputation coming with him, there were suggestions that if pulled up trees with Cardiff, he could become a future Manchester United manager. After his work here, Solskjaer has even less chance than David Moyes of going back to Old Trafford.
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Insignificance said:
And you have to acknowledge Gary's Valencia stint as slightly better than Jose's with United.
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LOL !!! - You and @doctor_mac - have come out with some beautiful suggestions.

In all honesty - I think the solskjaer suggestions/rumours are a load of shit. I think they got someone more experienced in mind to give them some respectable finish to the season. But it is strange they did not do the sacking Monday evening or something - i.e. within 24 hours after our game with them. To wait till Tuesday suggests that they were looking to see who they would get in the CL knockout stages before making the decision - I think when they saw PSG they probably thought "sh*t - No Way Jose". So if they are thinking of an attacking coach then what about the man that does the part time job for Chelsea when shit goes down - is he still alive somewhere ? - Gus Hiddink ? he is according to wiki managing China under - 21's.
 
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Buddha said:
Poch has improved Spurs, but "turned them around"? No. Fortunately for him, he's inherited a homegrown goalscorer in Kane (don't forget her persevered with Soldado for ages until injured even though Kane was coming off the bench and scoring for weeks) and yet they still tend to win by the odd goal. Spurs are also still, over the course of his tenure, the same choking side when the pressure is on as they've always been.

He's overrated. If he 'had' to win something to justify his longevity, there's nothing to suggest he's the best man to do so.
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Klopp persisted with Moreno for 18 months I don't think you can hold one player against a manager.

Clearly and undeniably Poch has had a massive influence on Spurs and yes has turned them from failing to make the Top 4 (5th and 6th the seasons previous to his appointment) to consistently a Top 4 team (3rd, 2nd, 3rd and currently clearly 3rd best but still with a title shot) ... and all on a net spend of MINUS 29m. That's pretty amazing TBH, regardless of what players he inherited. So overrated ? I'm not seeing that at all.
 
Nah, Poch, despite of his huge ego, is a great manager. He gave Kane his chance, Alli, Son, Trippier, Dier, Davies, Winks, etc, he made them all better. He even managed to get Lamela and Sissoko contributing. What he lacks now are trophies, once he wins a few he will be in the big league, if not already.

I suspect he will see this chance as a natural progression for him. His stock is high and there is no better chance to manage a bigger club than now. He is not going to win anything with Spurs.

Delighted that we are now sitting pretty on top soaking it in. Regardless of in and outs, there is going to be speculation and uncertainty at Spurs and Manure. I just hope both of them crash and burn eventually.
 
doctor_mac said:
I like it. But it is 4 years ago. I've learned stuff in the past four years. I can do things I work on better than I did. A lot better. He was shite, but he can't still be this shite. Can he?
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He did nothing of notice with an "expensive" team in a real weak Norwegian league for the last 3 years or so.
 
The Pochetino route is a high risk/high reward route for us. Worst case he turns Utd round and has them challenging again, but the upside is the wet dream that his departure causes Spurs to crash & burn and then he goes on to spectacularly fail at Utd.This could take two "rivals" out in one stroke, especially as the Spurs decline will start almost immediately as it becomes obvious he is off in the summer.

Like the long awaited sequel to the epic adventure "you don't have to win things to be a winner"
 
doctor_mac said:
The way you're using QMs around "expensive". That means the team is cheap then?
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No. It is expensive, but in Norwegian terms. He is backed by one of the richest guys in Norway, hence they have had an open checkbook to build what team/club they want. This year they snatched 2nd after a piss poor spring. But it was more Brann (remember the Fowler goal) who lost a 2 horse race and finished 3rd rather than Molde doing anything to finish 2nd. Dont think he has been even nominated for coach of the year.

But lets have a look at Norwegian managers in English footie.

Egil "Drillo" Olsen took on Wimbledon, got them relegated and was sacked within a year. Crawled back to Norway and lived happily ever after (not entirely true as he was later sacked by Norway and is still bitter about it).
Solskjær took on Cardiff (think they were 8 or so then?). Got them relegated, but got a chance to take them back up. Nearly got them relegated further and was sacked. Crawled back to Norway an loved happily ever after.
Solbakken had a good reputation from Denmark. Was shockingly poor in a short stint in FC Køln. Got the chance at Wolves to take them up from Championship. Nearly got them relegated imstead before he was sacked. Crawled back to Denmark and lived happily ever after.

Just can't see were this one comes from... Lampard would be a much better choice if I try to put it at any level. Like Luis Garcia or Vlad Smicer showed up as LFC manager replacing Klopp.
 
Insignificance said:
No. It is expensive, but in Norwegian terms. He is backed by one of the richest guys in Norway, hence they have had an open checkbook to build what team/club they want. This year they snatched 2nd after a piss poor spring. But it was more Brann (remember the Fowler goal) who lost a 2 horse race and finished 3rd rather than Molde doing anything to finish 2nd. Dont think he has been even nominated for coach of the year.

But lets have a look at Norwegian managers in English footie.

Egil "Drillo" Olsen took on Wimbledon, got them relegated and was sacked within a year. Crawled back to Norway and lived happily ever after (not entirely true as he was later sacked by Norway and is still bitter about it).
Solskjær took on Cardiff (think they were 8 or so then?). Got them relegated, but got a chance to take them back up. Nearly got them relegated further and was sacked. Crawled back to Norway an loved happily ever after.
Solbakken had a good reputation from Denmark. Was shockingly poor in a short stint in FC Køln. Got the chance at Wolves to take them up from Championship. Nearly got them relegated imstead before he was sacked. Crawled back to Denmark and lived happily ever after.

Just can't see were this one comes from... Lampard would be a much better choice if I try to put it at any level. Like Luis Garcia or Vlad Smicer showed up as LFC manager replacing Klopp.
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I think you're getting this wrong dude. Look at KHL- he bigs the shit out of anything from Denmark. You're basically saying Norway are the Jonahs of the footballing world.
 
We have pretty shite managere these days though. Solskjaer’s team, albeit an expencive assembled squad, are playing some nice football is has to be said.
At least at home.

I think the jist of the appointment is just to get that feel good factor back with the fans, but its like they’ve given up already about finishing in the top 4.
 
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