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Match thread vs Villa (will we finally win a game again?)

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Cant understand all the criticism Henderson gets today, thought he was one of a few positives.

Some people have made up their mind I guess
 
Cant understand all the criticism Henderson gets today, thought he was one of a few positives.

Some people have made up their mind I guess
He was negative and hesitant as per. He only turned up in the last 5 when everyone decided to have a go.
 
We actually had heart and drive for this game and once again (story of this season) deserve to win if not for some wood work and good shooting especially from Kuyt and Carroll
 
He was negative and hesitant as per. He only turned up in the last 5 when everyone decided to have a go.
He played many excellent passes and did little wrong bar his poor attempts at goal.
If it was Shelvey doing it you would be on your third change of trousers by now.
He is far from the finished article but there is a player in there
 
He played many excellent passes and did little wrong bar his poor attempts at goal.
If it was Shelvey doing it you would be on your third change of trousers by now.
He is far from the finished article but there is a player in there
I agree there is a player in there, but he's a coward. He's terrified of doing something wrong. That's why I prefer jonjo. He would rather try and fail rather than retain possession.

Jonjo was poor/average today, but he tried to force the play. Henderson, not so much
 
anyway a point at home to a villa team in 15th ....i'll take it !
 
I agree there is a player in there, but he's a coward. He's terrified of doing something wrong. That's why I prefer jonjo. He would rather try and fail rather than retain possession.

Jonjo was poor/average today, but he tried to force the play. Henderson, not so much
I don't agree though I think there is certainly more of a directness and urgency with Jonjo, a la Stevie.
Someone else had a pop at him for shooting outside the box, surely it would have been easier to lay it off if he was a complete pussy. I think people have just decided that he is a weak minded useless player and can't see a decent performance when he puts one in
Also is it not possible that where you see hesidancy it is often for the reason that there is no movement and little options ahead.
 
How much would Carlos Vela cost? He's managed to knock in more goals in 15 mins than we have in the last 3 games for Real Sociedad...
 
I don't agree though I think there is certainly more of a directness and urgency with Jonjo, a la Stevie.
Some else had a pop at him for shooting outside the box, surely it would have been easier to lay it off if he was a complete pussy.
Also is it not possible that where you see hesidancy it is often for the reason that there is no movement and little options

Tbh I'd rather he didn't shoot because he's garbage at it.
One moment near the end, we flooded the box and the ball fell to henderson in a good place for a deep cross.

He hesitated

He passed it back to the centre circle.
He froze. He's been caught in the headlights this season.
 
Just a question, Skrtel's form these past few games, could it be because Agger isnt playing next to him?
If thats true, isnt Agger our best CB?
 
Tbh I'd rather he didn't shoot because he's garbage at it.
One moment near the end, we flooded the box and the ball fell to henderson in a good place for a deep cross.

He hesitated

He passed it back to the centre circle.
He froze. He's been caught in the headlights this season.
I am not going to deny that he is a young player trying to find his feet at a big (?) club and a dose of self belief would improve him enormously.
I still believe he will be a big part of our future.
 
He'll need to find his bottle soon count or he might be out on his ear. And I agree about Enrique

Bring back Fabio!
 
Just a question, Skrtel's form these past few games, could it be because Agger isnt playing next to him?
If thats true, isnt Agger our best CB?

Play Agger as the right sided centre back with *insert name of any cb* and see how well he plays. Skrtel has had to play on the left of the two quite a bit since Agger got injured and his confidence/form has suffered. Agger and Skrtel are our best pairing and should always play when fit.
 
Just a question, Skrtel's form these past few games, could it be because Agger isnt playing next to him?
If thats true, isnt Agger our best CB?

Question 1: It could, but (a) there are many other possible reasons and (b) Skrtel hasn't been that bad anyway.

Question 2: That doesn't follow at all. Agger might just as well perform below his best without Skrtel.
 
i did not watch Sunderland much last season was Henderson a regular player for them?? i don't seem to recall him much .How did we end up paying 20 million for him ?
 
Because Charlie Nicholas is a bitter todger-nosed cnut who turned down the chance to join us when we were still winning titles and has never got over it.
 
No clue why, not like he did much wrong.
To be honest i thought he was talking about Henderson when he first started😵
To be fair he was reminded that Shelvey is only twenty.
I don't feel the need to take sides in the Shelvey v Henderson war.
i reckon they both will be important players for us in the future.
 
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