I'll marry him instead if it will help.
Masherano's replacement
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41162.msg1151177#msg1151177 date=1281372553]
Anyways, Inter say they have no money apparently
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Until/unless they sell Balotelli.
If the Mascher sale happens, it'll be a deadline-day special, I think, and probably at a reduced fee. I'm beginning to think we'd be better off keeping him. After all, if there's a takeover, we might even persuade him to sign a new contract.
Anyways, Inter say they have no money apparently
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Until/unless they sell Balotelli.
If the Mascher sale happens, it'll be a deadline-day special, I think, and probably at a reduced fee. I'm beginning to think we'd be better off keeping him. After all, if there's a takeover, we might even persuade him to sign a new contract.
If we haven't got a proper replacement for Mascher lined up, we'd be fucking daft to flog him.
So what if he's not happy? Supposedly he wasn't happy this year and it didn't seem to do him much harm.
In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that he hasn't got that long on his contract, I'd be quite happy to have him here as miserable as he likes if he kept performing at the standard he has been, but we need the cash too bad
So what if he's not happy? Supposedly he wasn't happy this year and it didn't seem to do him much harm.
In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that he hasn't got that long on his contract, I'd be quite happy to have him here as miserable as he likes if he kept performing at the standard he has been, but we need the cash too bad
What I dont get is why we're talking about such a reduced fee for him. If Yaya fucking Toure is worth £27 and Barca are bidding over £30m for Fabregas, then Mascherano is worth about £30m.
Sod Inter Milan - they always throw cash about if they want someone, and if Masscherano's wife is that unhappy in the UK, tough shit. Tell her to stop moaning for a couple of years while he makes a living.
Sod Inter Milan - they always throw cash about if they want someone, and if Masscherano's wife is that unhappy in the UK, tough shit. Tell her to stop moaning for a couple of years while he makes a living.
[quote author=Rafiagra link=topic=41162.msg1151240#msg1151240 date=1281376180]
What I dont get is why we're talking about such a reduced fee for him. If Yaya fucking Toure is worth £27 and Barca are bidding over £30m for Fabregas, then Mascherano is worth about £30m.
Sod Inter Milan - they always throw cash about if they want someone, and if Masscherano's wife is that unhappy in the UK, tough shit. Tell her to stop moaning for a couple of years while he makes a living.[/quote]
Yeah, why should it be easier for her than for any new chairmans wife if he decides to move to England.
What I dont get is why we're talking about such a reduced fee for him. If Yaya fucking Toure is worth £27 and Barca are bidding over £30m for Fabregas, then Mascherano is worth about £30m.
Sod Inter Milan - they always throw cash about if they want someone, and if Masscherano's wife is that unhappy in the UK, tough shit. Tell her to stop moaning for a couple of years while he makes a living.[/quote]
Yeah, why should it be easier for her than for any new chairmans wife if he decides to move to England.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41162.msg1151177#msg1151177 date=1281372553]
Anyways, Inter say they have no money apparently
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Probably bullshit though, just trying to get the price down.
Inter never complained about finances before, but everyone thinks we're a bunch of patsies so why not give it a whirl.
Anyways, Inter say they have no money apparently
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Probably bullshit though, just trying to get the price down.
Inter never complained about finances before, but everyone thinks we're a bunch of patsies so why not give it a whirl.
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41162.msg1151177#msg1151177 date=1281372553]
Anyways, Inter say they have no money apparently
regards
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Probably bullshit though, just trying to get the price down.
Inter never complained about finances before, but everyone thinks we're a bunch of patsies so why not give it a whirl.
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Inters manager was the guy who put a price on Maschers head. Not even 50 mill should price him away I think he said?? 🙂
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41162.msg1151177#msg1151177 date=1281372553]
Anyways, Inter say they have no money apparently
regards
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Probably bullshit though, just trying to get the price down.
Inter never complained about finances before, but everyone thinks we're a bunch of patsies so why not give it a whirl.
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Inters manager was the guy who put a price on Maschers head. Not even 50 mill should price him away I think he said?? 🙂
Is there no home wrecker in Liverpool?
Come on, relieve the guy from that silly bitch who can't pick up a language in spite of staying in a place for three years.
What makes him think, she is going to pick up Italian more readily....i hope she already knows Italian, for his sake.
Come on, relieve the guy from that silly bitch who can't pick up a language in spite of staying in a place for three years.
What makes him think, she is going to pick up Italian more readily....i hope she already knows Italian, for his sake.
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=41162.msg1151275#msg1151275 date=1281381239]
Is there no home wrecker in Liverpool?
Come on, relieve the guy from that silly bitch who can't pick up a language in spite of staying in a place for three years.
What makes him think, she is going to pick up Italian more readily....i hope she already knows Italian, for his sake.
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For a hardman defensive midfielder, it's pretty clear who wears the trousers (shorts?) in his house.
Is there no home wrecker in Liverpool?
Come on, relieve the guy from that silly bitch who can't pick up a language in spite of staying in a place for three years.
What makes him think, she is going to pick up Italian more readily....i hope she already knows Italian, for his sake.
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For a hardman defensive midfielder, it's pretty clear who wears the trousers (shorts?) in his house.
will be interesting to see if he plays at the weekend
Poor Masher. I hope those Italian lessons haven't been a waste of money. I bet he's praying the Syrian takes us over so he can at least practice the lingo when ordering a calzone out of his new bosses takeaway.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=41162.msg1151333#msg1151333 date=1281390383]
Poor Masher. I hope those Italian lessons haven't been a waste of money. I bet he's praying the Syrian takes us over so he can at least practice the lingo when ordering a calzone out of his new bosses takeaway.
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Great, now I'm hungry
Poor Masher. I hope those Italian lessons haven't been a waste of money. I bet he's praying the Syrian takes us over so he can at least practice the lingo when ordering a calzone out of his new bosses takeaway.
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Great, now I'm hungry
Well if he does stay, it means we have kept three of our top drawer boys, who most people had down to not be here, and added Cole and Jovanovic, and likely to add a decent left-back to the squad.
If we can get another forward it puts us in a far better position than we were last season, and with a mananger who I believe will play things much simpler and will know and play his strongest team.............and that is even without money coming in.
Not bad considering the doom and gloom that was being spread a few weeks ago.
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PS I still think Mascher will be off though
If we can get another forward it puts us in a far better position than we were last season, and with a mananger who I believe will play things much simpler and will know and play his strongest team.............and that is even without money coming in.
Not bad considering the doom and gloom that was being spread a few weeks ago.
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PS I still think Mascher will be off though
Mirror...........
I think it is insurance, just in case Mascher does fuck off with little time to bring someone in, if Mascher stays it strengthens the squad.
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I think it is insurance, just in case Mascher does fuck off with little time to bring someone in, if Mascher stays it strengthens the squad.
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I don't think we could afford to gamble on him going and not having a plan B.
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41162.msg1151360#msg1151360 date=1281396150]
I don't think we could afford to gamble on him going and not having a plan B.
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Is the right answer.
I don't think we could afford to gamble on him going and not having a plan B.
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Is the right answer.
Doubt any deal for Mascherano will be agreed upon by this week. Should we risk him vs Arsenal?
He wont play its just a case of waiting to get the City money moving.
Poulsen deal leaves us 20 million spare to sign Ashley Young or someone else with a bit of quality hopefully!
Poulsen deal leaves us 20 million spare to sign Ashley Young or someone else with a bit of quality hopefully!
[quote author=keniget link=topic=41162.msg1151363#msg1151363 date=1281397344]
If the fee is indeed 6M, I think we're overpaying. Hopefully Hodgson knows what he's doing here and can get the guy playing.
Depressing article that.
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It's the Mirror. I've read in a couple of places that it is 6M Euros.
Yes, we should play Masherano every match until he is sold. Why weaken our team for a transfer we don't want anyway ?
If the fee is indeed 6M, I think we're overpaying. Hopefully Hodgson knows what he's doing here and can get the guy playing.
Depressing article that.
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It's the Mirror. I've read in a couple of places that it is 6M Euros.
Yes, we should play Masherano every match until he is sold. Why weaken our team for a transfer we don't want anyway ?
In case he gets injured and deal collapses leaving us 25 million short for any targets we had in mind.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41162.msg1151360#msg1151360 date=1281396150]
I don't think we could afford to gamble on him going and not having a plan B.
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Exactly right - I'm very impressed if this happens. How many times have we sold someone right at the close of the window and bought in a rushed purchase or no one at all? We don't need anyone and we don't have to sell Mascher; if Inter don't want to pay for him this season then they don't get him.
I'm pretty happy with the way the pre season has gone to be honest - much better than I expected. If Mascher stays then all the better; this season is a key one and our performance for the next 10 months is vital. If Mascher stays, Cole fires, Torres and Stevie stay fit and Jovanovic performs reasonably then we will force our way back into the top 4. By then there will certainly have been a deal done for club ownership so at the end of the season Mascher can leave if he wants to - our position will be far stronger both in a fiscal sense and on the pitch. If it means sacrificing the wishes of some players for a year and stretching our current budget then so be it; we have to count on a good season both on and off the pitch. Anything short of that, in reality, presents a very gloomy future for the club.
I don't think we could afford to gamble on him going and not having a plan B.
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Exactly right - I'm very impressed if this happens. How many times have we sold someone right at the close of the window and bought in a rushed purchase or no one at all? We don't need anyone and we don't have to sell Mascher; if Inter don't want to pay for him this season then they don't get him.
I'm pretty happy with the way the pre season has gone to be honest - much better than I expected. If Mascher stays then all the better; this season is a key one and our performance for the next 10 months is vital. If Mascher stays, Cole fires, Torres and Stevie stay fit and Jovanovic performs reasonably then we will force our way back into the top 4. By then there will certainly have been a deal done for club ownership so at the end of the season Mascher can leave if he wants to - our position will be far stronger both in a fiscal sense and on the pitch. If it means sacrificing the wishes of some players for a year and stretching our current budget then so be it; we have to count on a good season both on and off the pitch. Anything short of that, in reality, presents a very gloomy future for the club.
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41162.msg1151398#msg1151398 date=1281414138]
In case he gets injured and deal collapses leaving us 25 million short for any targets we had in mind.
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No not short of 25M for targets .... if he's injured and they don't take him then, when he recovers, we have a world class DM in our team until at least January. We are getting enough from our sales (plus the reported 12M budget) to get the other players we need (plenty of threads on this already). I would be more than happy to keep Masher for this season and sell him next Summer for 10-12M. I would fully expect us to finish in the top 3 if that happened.
I would love us to fuck Inter & Rafa over on this but at the moment it's looking like they are the ones doing our rear end.
In case he gets injured and deal collapses leaving us 25 million short for any targets we had in mind.
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No not short of 25M for targets .... if he's injured and they don't take him then, when he recovers, we have a world class DM in our team until at least January. We are getting enough from our sales (plus the reported 12M budget) to get the other players we need (plenty of threads on this already). I would be more than happy to keep Masher for this season and sell him next Summer for 10-12M. I would fully expect us to finish in the top 3 if that happened.
I would love us to fuck Inter & Rafa over on this but at the moment it's looking like they are the ones doing our rear end.
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41162.msg1151402#msg1151402 date=1281418558]
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41162.msg1151398#msg1151398 date=1281414138]
In case he gets injured and deal collapses leaving us 25 million short for any targets we had in mind.
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No not short of 25M for targets .... if he's injured and they don't take him then, when he recovers, we have a world class DM in our team until at least January. We are getting enough from our sales (plus the reported 12M budget) to get the other players we need (plenty of threads on this already). I would be more than happy to keep Masher for this season and sell him next Summer for 10-12M. I would fully expect us to finish in the top 3 if that happened.
I would love us to fuck Inter & Rafa over on this but at the moment it's looking like they are the ones doing our rear end.
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How? I disagree with that as he is our player and we have set the valuation for him and if they dont pay it we continue to have mascherano and they do not. Its not like we are going to turn around to another club and be like ok mascherano wants to leave, please put in a bid even if its 10-15mil, we need the money for other targets. its either he leaves on our terms or he stays and plays for our club. If he doesnt like it and refuses to play, then he can rot in the ressies for 2 years without pay.
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41162.msg1151398#msg1151398 date=1281414138]
In case he gets injured and deal collapses leaving us 25 million short for any targets we had in mind.
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No not short of 25M for targets .... if he's injured and they don't take him then, when he recovers, we have a world class DM in our team until at least January. We are getting enough from our sales (plus the reported 12M budget) to get the other players we need (plenty of threads on this already). I would be more than happy to keep Masher for this season and sell him next Summer for 10-12M. I would fully expect us to finish in the top 3 if that happened.
I would love us to fuck Inter & Rafa over on this but at the moment it's looking like they are the ones doing our rear end.
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How? I disagree with that as he is our player and we have set the valuation for him and if they dont pay it we continue to have mascherano and they do not. Its not like we are going to turn around to another club and be like ok mascherano wants to leave, please put in a bid even if its 10-15mil, we need the money for other targets. its either he leaves on our terms or he stays and plays for our club. If he doesnt like it and refuses to play, then he can rot in the ressies for 2 years without pay.
I'd take that too...Maschers not the type to let his performance drop even if he wants away. a good season we get champions league and he can leave on the cheap next year - everyones a winner...except for his wife ,I suppose!
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41162.msg1151360#msg1151360 date=1281396150]
I don't think we could afford to gamble on him going and not having a plan B.
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Is the right answer.
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Unfortunately, yes.
It also sends Inter a message that if they want this done they better cough up the money; because they now can't keep stringing us along thinking that the longer they stall the more desperate we'll be.
l hope its not 6 million tho, i also hope KHL is right about him.
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=41162.msg1151360#msg1151360 date=1281396150]
I don't think we could afford to gamble on him going and not having a plan B.
regards
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Is the right answer.
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Unfortunately, yes.
It also sends Inter a message that if they want this done they better cough up the money; because they now can't keep stringing us along thinking that the longer they stall the more desperate we'll be.
l hope its not 6 million tho, i also hope KHL is right about him.
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41162.msg1151410#msg1151410 date=1281423301]
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41162.msg1151402#msg1151402 date=1281418558]
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41162.msg1151398#msg1151398 date=1281414138]
In case he gets injured and deal collapses leaving us 25 million short for any targets we had in mind.
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No not short of 25M for targets .... if he's injured and they don't take him then, when he recovers, we have a world class DM in our team until at least January. We are getting enough from our sales (plus the reported 12M budget) to get the other players we need (plenty of threads on this already). I would be more than happy to keep Masher for this season and sell him next Summer for 10-12M. I would fully expect us to finish in the top 3 if that happened.
I would love us to fuck Inter & Rafa over on this but at the moment it's looking like they are the ones doing our rear end.
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How? I disagree with that as he is our player and we have set the valuation for him and if they dont pay it we continue to have mascherano and they do not. Its not like we are going to turn around to another club and be like ok mascherano wants to leave, please put in a bid even if its 10-15mil, we need the money for other targets. its either he leaves on our terms or he stays and plays for our club. If he doesnt like it and refuses to play, then he can rot in the ressies for 2 years without pay.
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Because currently everyone is now talking of 20M - which is a rubbish bid for a player of Masher's calibre. As I said, if they don't come up with a minimum of 25 up to 30M then keep him for another season or sell for 20M in January and 10-12M next Summer. However if we have new owners who are looking to splash the cash, as has been intimated, and we are doing well up to January, then maybe Masher will persuade his wife it may be a good idea to stay, too many ifs and buts at the moment though.
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41162.msg1151402#msg1151402 date=1281418558]
[quote author=Mistadobalina link=topic=41162.msg1151398#msg1151398 date=1281414138]
In case he gets injured and deal collapses leaving us 25 million short for any targets we had in mind.
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No not short of 25M for targets .... if he's injured and they don't take him then, when he recovers, we have a world class DM in our team until at least January. We are getting enough from our sales (plus the reported 12M budget) to get the other players we need (plenty of threads on this already). I would be more than happy to keep Masher for this season and sell him next Summer for 10-12M. I would fully expect us to finish in the top 3 if that happened.
I would love us to fuck Inter & Rafa over on this but at the moment it's looking like they are the ones doing our rear end.
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How? I disagree with that as he is our player and we have set the valuation for him and if they dont pay it we continue to have mascherano and they do not. Its not like we are going to turn around to another club and be like ok mascherano wants to leave, please put in a bid even if its 10-15mil, we need the money for other targets. its either he leaves on our terms or he stays and plays for our club. If he doesnt like it and refuses to play, then he can rot in the ressies for 2 years without pay.
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Because currently everyone is now talking of 20M - which is a rubbish bid for a player of Masher's calibre. As I said, if they don't come up with a minimum of 25 up to 30M then keep him for another season or sell for 20M in January and 10-12M next Summer. However if we have new owners who are looking to splash the cash, as has been intimated, and we are doing well up to January, then maybe Masher will persuade his wife it may be a good idea to stay, too many ifs and buts at the moment though.
We should demand Davide Santon + 15 to 20 million pounds. Yaya Toure went for 30 million pounds and Masher has 18 more months left on his contract. I don't see why we should let him go on the cheap.
If that were to happen, we would have fixed our LB problem + have 15 to 20 million pound that can go straight to fund another CM.
We can go with that Squad till January and think about that back-up striker then.
If that were to happen, we would have fixed our LB problem + have 15 to 20 million pound that can go straight to fund another CM.
We can go with that Squad till January and think about that back-up striker then.
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