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keniget said:
What is Klopp on?

Last time I took any notice to manager salaries the top guys were reportedly on about 6-7M a year. Have they risen massively since then?

11.5M a year seems like a lot.
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Klopp was on £7.5m but that has doubled if press reports are to be believed.
Pep is on anything from £15m - £20m+ depending on what rag you believe.
https://wageindicator.co.uk/pay/vip-celebrity-salary/sports-football-managers
Very different figures here for some of the other managers
https://www.90min.com/posts/6501844-the-top-10-highest-football-managers-salaries-revealed
https://www.goal.com/en/lists/simeo...-football-managers/18xrar6mv1dq21lr3vof9301qd
 
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tombrown said:
The Firm?

Must be true, then
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Not The Firm.
Just "a firm".

They've got a long ways to go to become The Firm.

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Carlo has more than enough for a espresso and grappa for the rest of his life. Managing Everton will shorten that life obviously.
 
Treboeth said:
We don't want them.
We already have blueshite Cardiff up the road.
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I like Cardiff. It was allways good back in the days to say "Oh, the ex Cardiff manager" when people talked about Ole Gunnar. Now we don't need them anymore, but they was worth their place back then.
 
manwithnoname said:
That article is worth reading over and over. It's almost heartbreakingly funny.
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I think it makes sense though. They're shit, and we're ace, it's a strange competition to invest a lot of mental energy into.

They should try something more productive, it seems. Time to focus just on how they're shit, for a while. That'll cheer them right up.
 
Farkmaster said:
I think it makes sense though. They're shit, and we're ace, it's a strange competition to invest a lot of mental energy into.

They should try something more productive, it seems. Time to focus just on how they're shit, for a while. That'll cheer them right up.
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Yeah, but the fundamentals can't change facts: the two clubs' grounds are less than a mile apart, and as much as he quacks on about day-trippers and Norwegians in jester hats and half and half scarves, the brutal truth is that more people who reside and live in the Merseyside area describe themselves as Liverpool fans.

Now, it is true that the match-day Everton crowd are more likely to live near the ground than Liverpool's (or indeed many top-flight clubs), so it is an argument that has some credence, but that's ignoring the fact that Liverpool has a bigger fanbase anyway. Like about 10 times bigger.

And the idea that Liverpool fans are all OOTers and wools is just nonsense.

So what are the Bitters going to do? Walk around with their eyes and ears shut? Only agree to converse with other Everton fans who are wearing badges identifying themselves?

knobheads
 
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manwithnoname said:
That article is worth reading over and over. It's almost heartbreakingly funny.
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It's pathetic (and funny) is what it is. It's about their players and the results they produce, nothing they're experiencing is a by product of their relationship to Liverpool FC, it's their own in-house problem to resolve.

A good bout of stoicism is what they require, not indulging in self-pity. I've no time for snowflake 'supporters'.
 
It is one of the most pathetic things I've ever read, and this idea that Liverpool FC is separable from the City is risible bullshit.
 
manwithnoname said:
That article is worth reading over and over. It's almost heartbreakingly funny.
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I bet you wrote that ?

Anyway, just read all of it, major contradiction in the following:

The grinding reality of football, the fact that it can be boring and upsetting as well as entertaining is part of its appeal. It’s meant to be an emotional experience, one filled with heady highs and soul crushing lows, not one endlessly captivating love-in.

they get loads of that emotion watching Everton ... especially the soul crushing lows, so why is he moaning ?

Anyway very sad article I feel sorry that all this hidden emotion is suddenly coming out. I mean you would think they would take some comfort from the fact that it was a young scouser that scored that goal.
 
Jim Keoghan is the author of Everton’s Greatest Games: the Toffees 50 Finest Moments and High’s Lows and Bakayokos: the story of Everton in the 1990s.
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Fifty!! Seriously? Christ one of them must be when they went to get a tea paid with a fiver but got change for a tenner
 
manwithnoname said:
Yeah, but the fundamentals can't change facts: the two clubs' grounds are less than a mile apart, and as much as he quacks on about day-trippers and Norwegians in jester hats and half and half scarves, the brutal truth is that more people who reside and live in the Merseyside area describe themselves as Liverpool fans.

Now, it is true that the match-day Everton crowd are more likely to live near the ground than Liverpool's (or indeed many top-flight clubs), so it is an argument that has some credence, but that's ignoring the fact that Liverpool has a bigger fanbase anyway. Like about 10 times bigger.

And the idea that Liverpool fans are all OOTers and wools is just nonsense.

So what are the Bitters going to do? Walk around with their eyes and ears shut? Only agree to converse with other Everton fans who are wearing badges identifying themselves?

knobheads
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Oh, I was being facetious. Your reply made me read through the rest of the article, which essentially is a giant bitter white flag, so thanks for that.

The whole reaction to this derby on both sides, shows the tribalism is alive and well. My latest visit to anfield was eye opening because I was squarely amongst that tourist horde he's using to rationalise the bile he's thrown up into his mouth. And yeah, it was weird and shit, but strangely, not more shit than years ago when we were shit, or before that, when we were also shit. Someone, far away in the Kop seemed to be happy, and I can take heart in ruining the audio on a bunch of Chinese social media.

But of course, when your team is shit, it's football that's shit. We know that, because we've lived it. And it isn't wrong. But you're still shit, which is what they should focus on not being , more than us plastic, tourist infested supporters, who they've quite clearly stopped thinking about.

And it's flattering of course, like the strange menace of being stalked by an ex.
 
If Everton don’t want to play us anymore then why don’t they just cut to the chase and get relegated? They could also get knocked out in early rounds of the cups as well if they don’t want to take any chances.
I think those boys could be on to something...
 
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