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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35034.msg916886#msg916886 date=1249250273]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916885#msg916885 date=1249250127]
in the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal. no injuries, everyone (bar a few) got 45 minutes of competitive football under their belts but boy do we look disjointed.
to be honest we tend to look disjointed everytime alonso doesn't play, he simply knows when to pass it simple or attempt to make a defense splitting pass, the other in midfield are either playing it square all the time or are far too ambitious.
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What are you on about Neil? "Xabi gets the ball, passes it, AND THAT'S IT."
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good players make diffiuclt things look simple which some people judge as ACTUALLY being simple until someone else who isn't as good attempts it and they find out it isn't 'simple' at all. I'm dreading us losing xabi, DREADING it.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916885#msg916885 date=1249250127]
in the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal. no injuries, everyone (bar a few) got 45 minutes of competitive football under their belts but boy do we look disjointed.
to be honest we tend to look disjointed everytime alonso doesn't play, he simply knows when to pass it simple or attempt to make a defense splitting pass, the other in midfield are either playing it square all the time or are far too ambitious.
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What are you on about Neil? "Xabi gets the ball, passes it, AND THAT'S IT."
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good players make diffiuclt things look simple which some people judge as ACTUALLY being simple until someone else who isn't as good attempts it and they find out it isn't 'simple' at all. I'm dreading us losing xabi, DREADING it.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916901#msg916901 date=1249250887]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35034.msg916886#msg916886 date=1249250273]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916885#msg916885 date=1249250127]
in the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal. no injuries, everyone (bar a few) got 45 minutes of competitive football under their belts but boy do we look disjointed.
to be honest we tend to look disjointed everytime alonso doesn't play, he simply knows when to pass it simple or attempt to make a defense splitting pass, the other in midfield are either playing it square all the time or are far too ambitious.
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What are you on about Neil? "Xabi gets the ball, passes it, AND THAT'S IT."
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good players make diffiuclt things look simple which some people judge as ACTUALLY being simple unless someone else who isn't as good attempts it. I'm dreading us losing xabi, DREADING it.
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I know, I was quoting Oncy.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35034.msg916886#msg916886 date=1249250273]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916885#msg916885 date=1249250127]
in the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal. no injuries, everyone (bar a few) got 45 minutes of competitive football under their belts but boy do we look disjointed.
to be honest we tend to look disjointed everytime alonso doesn't play, he simply knows when to pass it simple or attempt to make a defense splitting pass, the other in midfield are either playing it square all the time or are far too ambitious.
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What are you on about Neil? "Xabi gets the ball, passes it, AND THAT'S IT."
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good players make diffiuclt things look simple which some people judge as ACTUALLY being simple unless someone else who isn't as good attempts it. I'm dreading us losing xabi, DREADING it.
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I know, I was quoting Oncy.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35034.msg916903#msg916903 date=1249250941]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916901#msg916901 date=1249250887]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35034.msg916886#msg916886 date=1249250273]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916885#msg916885 date=1249250127]
in the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal. no injuries, everyone (bar a few) got 45 minutes of competitive football under their belts but boy do we look disjointed.
to be honest we tend to look disjointed everytime alonso doesn't play, he simply knows when to pass it simple or attempt to make a defense splitting pass, the other in midfield are either playing it square all the time or are far too ambitious.
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What are you on about Neil? "Xabi gets the ball, passes it, AND THAT'S IT."
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good players make diffiuclt things look simple which some people judge as ACTUALLY being simple unless someone else who isn't as good attempts it. I'm dreading us losing xabi, DREADING it.
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I know, I was quoting Oncy.
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I know. oncy' in denial
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916901#msg916901 date=1249250887]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35034.msg916886#msg916886 date=1249250273]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916885#msg916885 date=1249250127]
in the grand scheme of things it's not a big deal. no injuries, everyone (bar a few) got 45 minutes of competitive football under their belts but boy do we look disjointed.
to be honest we tend to look disjointed everytime alonso doesn't play, he simply knows when to pass it simple or attempt to make a defense splitting pass, the other in midfield are either playing it square all the time or are far too ambitious.
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What are you on about Neil? "Xabi gets the ball, passes it, AND THAT'S IT."
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good players make diffiuclt things look simple which some people judge as ACTUALLY being simple unless someone else who isn't as good attempts it. I'm dreading us losing xabi, DREADING it.
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I know, I was quoting Oncy.
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I know. oncy' in denial
It was a simple question. Who scored?
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35034.msg916913#msg916913 date=1249252508]
We were awful in preseason last year too and we didn't win the league then either
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Robbie Keane scored two the other night, and Michael Owen has 4 in pre-season for the Mancs.
-Tenuos link between our form combined with not having either of those two-
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MAD FACES
We were awful in preseason last year too and we didn't win the league then either
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Robbie Keane scored two the other night, and Michael Owen has 4 in pre-season for the Mancs.
-Tenuos link between our form combined with not having either of those two-
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MAD FACES
Mike Hooper makes great barrels.
lucas was very good. babel is really trying.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=35034.msg916877#msg916877 date=1249249781]
[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=35034.msg916873#msg916873 date=1249249230]
Hansern - if you are (in your own words) spelling out for me how hopeless our players are try to spell hopeless correctly. Soft shite.
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Do you have to work hard at being a twat Wilko or does it come naturally?
Did we win by the way?
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Years of dedication and self discipline, Sheik. You?
[quote author=Wilko7 link=topic=35034.msg916873#msg916873 date=1249249230]
Hansern - if you are (in your own words) spelling out for me how hopeless our players are try to spell hopeless correctly. Soft shite.
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Do you have to work hard at being a twat Wilko or does it come naturally?
Did we win by the way?
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Years of dedication and self discipline, Sheik. You?
[quote author=refugee link=topic=35034.msg916916#msg916916 date=1249252763]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916901#msg916901 date=1249250887]
good players make diffiuclt things look simple
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And yet you still rate Babel?
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I 'like' babel' I'm not sure I 'rate' babel. just one of those things, I was a big smicer fan as well.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35034.msg916901#msg916901 date=1249250887]
good players make diffiuclt things look simple
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And yet you still rate Babel?
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I 'like' babel' I'm not sure I 'rate' babel. just one of those things, I was a big smicer fan as well.
Well, I ended up missing this - sounds like it was for the best.
I guess it's important to retain a bit of perspective given that it's a friendly, but given that they're now marketed to us by in order to make more money, we've not been given much to feel encouraged about after a fucking awful summer, have we?
I guess it's important to retain a bit of perspective given that it's a friendly, but given that they're now marketed to us by in order to make more money, we've not been given much to feel encouraged about after a fucking awful summer, have we?
Chelsea lost 2-0 to Reading at the weekend.
This was the team they put out:
-------------------CECH-------------------
BOSINGWA---TERRY---ALEX---COLE
-------------------MIKEL----------------
------ESSIEN-----LAMPARD----MALOUDA
------------ANELKA----DROGBA--------
Their best team. And they got beat by Reading.
Pre-season friendlies are a bag of balls.
This was the team they put out:
-------------------CECH-------------------
BOSINGWA---TERRY---ALEX---COLE
-------------------MIKEL----------------
------ESSIEN-----LAMPARD----MALOUDA
------------ANELKA----DROGBA--------
Their best team. And they got beat by Reading.
Pre-season friendlies are a bag of balls.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35034.msg916948#msg916948 date=1249263211]
Not saying pre-season friendlies are anything but... just that I can't help but feel a little discouraged by this summer as a whole. All our rubbish players are still with us and we will have lost two first teamers.
Chelsea ended up salvaging a draw by the way.
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Oh did they? Ha, it was 2-0 when I left it.
Anyway, I agree to an extent. I suppose the only salvation is that our rivals are in pretty much the same boat. I can't see how Chelsea, Arsenal or United have strengthened. Still, it's been a disappointing summer as you say.
Not saying pre-season friendlies are anything but... just that I can't help but feel a little discouraged by this summer as a whole. All our rubbish players are still with us and we will have lost two first teamers.
Chelsea ended up salvaging a draw by the way.
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Oh did they? Ha, it was 2-0 when I left it.
Anyway, I agree to an extent. I suppose the only salvation is that our rivals are in pretty much the same boat. I can't see how Chelsea, Arsenal or United have strengthened. Still, it's been a disappointing summer as you say.
Theres an awful amount of gnashing in a thread about a game means fuck all.
And Ryan. I promise everytime we win NOT to say 'See we dont need Xabi' if you promise when we lose to NOT say 'apparantly he gets it passes it' otherwise this could get really fucking dull.
I didnt say he wasnt a good player, didnt say he wasnt important, i said he plays a very simple game well. Anyway, im not doing this all year.
And Ryan. I promise everytime we win NOT to say 'See we dont need Xabi' if you promise when we lose to NOT say 'apparantly he gets it passes it' otherwise this could get really fucking dull.
I didnt say he wasnt a good player, didnt say he wasnt important, i said he plays a very simple game well. Anyway, im not doing this all year.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35034.msg916955#msg916955 date=1249264139]
Theres an awful amount of gnashing in a thread about a game means fuck all.
And Ryan. I promise everytime we win NOT to say 'See we dont need Xabi' if you promise when we lose to NOT say 'apparantly he gets it passes it' otherwise this could get really fucking dull.
I didnt say he wasnt a good player, didnt say he wasnt important, i said he plays a very simple game well. Anyway, im not doing this all year.
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Fret not Oncy, I only brought it up in reply to Neil's comment.
For the record, I don't actually believe that you think that 'recieving and passing' is all there is to Xabi's game. I think you were just caught up in an argument at the tiem, and it came across a bit harsher than you actually believe/meant.
Theres an awful amount of gnashing in a thread about a game means fuck all.
And Ryan. I promise everytime we win NOT to say 'See we dont need Xabi' if you promise when we lose to NOT say 'apparantly he gets it passes it' otherwise this could get really fucking dull.
I didnt say he wasnt a good player, didnt say he wasnt important, i said he plays a very simple game well. Anyway, im not doing this all year.
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Fret not Oncy, I only brought it up in reply to Neil's comment.
For the record, I don't actually believe that you think that 'recieving and passing' is all there is to Xabi's game. I think you were just caught up in an argument at the tiem, and it came across a bit harsher than you actually believe/meant.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35034.msg916950#msg916950 date=1249263809]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35034.msg916948#msg916948 date=1249263211]
Not saying pre-season friendlies are anything but... just that I can't help but feel a little discouraged by this summer as a whole. All our rubbish players are still with us and we will have lost two first teamers.
Chelsea ended up salvaging a draw by the way.
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Oh did they? Ha, it was 2-0 when I left it.
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I think both Chelsea goals were scored during injury time.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=35034.msg916948#msg916948 date=1249263211]
Not saying pre-season friendlies are anything but... just that I can't help but feel a little discouraged by this summer as a whole. All our rubbish players are still with us and we will have lost two first teamers.
Chelsea ended up salvaging a draw by the way.
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Oh did they? Ha, it was 2-0 when I left it.
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I think both Chelsea goals were scored during injury time.
Bugger. If they've caught that habit from us they'll be an even bigger threat this year.
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[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=35034.msg916933#msg916933 date=1249254452]
lucas was very good. babel is really trying.
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In a otherwise rather mediocre performance he actually stood out and at one point it almost looked like he's suddenly got pace to burn?
Did anyone else notice how he suddenly moved very quickly from A to B in the matter of seconds?
Weird.
lucas was very good. babel is really trying.
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In a otherwise rather mediocre performance he actually stood out and at one point it almost looked like he's suddenly got pace to burn?
Did anyone else notice how he suddenly moved very quickly from A to B in the matter of seconds?
Weird.
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=35034.msg917014#msg917014 date=1249289899]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=35034.msg916933#msg916933 date=1249254452]
lucas was very good. babel is really trying.
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In a otherwise rather mediocre performance he actually stood out and at one point it almost looked like he's suddenly got pace to burn?
Did anyone else notice how he suddenly moved very quickly from A to B in the matter of seconds?
Weird.
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He did have a very god game - an improved performance at just the right time.
It's somewhat telling how few on here have commented on him. I really hope he can prove his doubters wrong this year.
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=35034.msg916933#msg916933 date=1249254452]
lucas was very good. babel is really trying.
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In a otherwise rather mediocre performance he actually stood out and at one point it almost looked like he's suddenly got pace to burn?
Did anyone else notice how he suddenly moved very quickly from A to B in the matter of seconds?
Weird.
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He did have a very god game - an improved performance at just the right time.
It's somewhat telling how few on here have commented on him. I really hope he can prove his doubters wrong this year.
Yeah, Lucas was better than I expected - certainly in terms of his aggressiveness. We lacked fluidity in our passing, but I don't know if that was down to Lucas playing in Xabi's position or just the disjointedness of the whole team.
I'm not pressing any panic buttons - the game just confirmed what we all know really: we've got an excellent first XI, plus maybe half a dozen good squad players. Beyond that, we're really, really average. If the likes of Degen, Dossena, San José, Wash and Voronin are going to be used on a regular basis, we'll be in trouble. Fingers crossed for no injuries...
I'm not pressing any panic buttons - the game just confirmed what we all know really: we've got an excellent first XI, plus maybe half a dozen good squad players. Beyond that, we're really, really average. If the likes of Degen, Dossena, San José, Wash and Voronin are going to be used on a regular basis, we'll be in trouble. Fingers crossed for no injuries...
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