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'Liverpool Owners Seek Replacement for Roy Hodgson'

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[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=43363.msg1242182#msg1242182 date=1294084239]
Why isn't anybody mentioning Martin O'Neill? I think he is hands down the best candidate for the job. He fits FSG criteria of an attack-minded manager who likes to work with young players. And I love that he is not only thoughtful, but also passionate and a real players' coach. I always thought he was the most likely to become the next manager of a top–4 team in England, perhaps even as Fergie's successor. The only negative I see is that he doesn't seem to know how to use rotation, but that's not too hard to learn, so that's not a major issue. It's not like he had a wealth of quality options at Villa anyway.
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I view him very differently to you.

Firstly his tactics are primarily to get his team to play on the counter, he spent huge money filling out the Villa squad with players who you yourself say aren't quality options. And one of the reasons Lerner was happy to see him go was that he had no faith in the youngsters coming through the Villa system.
 
So he's going for the Double:

Worst Liverpool Manager In History and also Most Despised Liverpool Manager In History

Well done Budgie, you massive old sack of bloody tramp shit
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43363.msg1242187#msg1242187 date=1294084501]
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=43363.msg1242182#msg1242182 date=1294084239]
Why isn't anybody mentioning Martin O'Neill? I think he is hands down the best candidate for the job. He fits FSG criteria of an attack-minded manager who likes to work with young players. And I love that he is not only thoughtful, but also passionate and a real players' coach. I always thought he was the most likely to become the next manager of a top–4 team in England, perhaps even as Fergie's successor. The only negative I see is that he doesn't seem to know how to use rotation, but that's not too hard to learn, so that's not a major issue. It's not like he had a wealth of quality options at Villa anyway.
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I view him very differently to you.

Firstly his tactics are primarily to get his team to play on the counter, he spent huge money filling out the Villa squad with players who you yourself say aren't quality options. And one of the reasons Lerner was happy to see him go was that he had no faith in the youngsters coming through the Villa system.
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I thought he signed a lot of young quality homegrown players for Villa, which is quite a feat given their limited budget. Young, Milner and Agbonlahor rose in value dramatically at Villa and players like Albrighton, Delph and Delfosuenso will increase their value manyfold in a few years. We don't anything approaching this kind of quality in our young players.

The dramatic drop in performance since O'Neill left is another testament to how good a manager he is.
 
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43363.msg1242187#msg1242187 date=1294084501]
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=43363.msg1242182#msg1242182 date=1294084239]
Why isn't anybody mentioning Martin O'Neill? I think he is hands down the best candidate for the job. He fits FSG criteria of an attack-minded manager who likes to work with young players. And I love that he is not only thoughtful, but also passionate and a real players' coach. I always thought he was the most likely to become the next manager of a top–4 team in England, perhaps even as Fergie's successor. The only negative I see is that he doesn't seem to know how to use rotation, but that's not too hard to learn, so that's not a major issue. It's not like he had a wealth of quality options at Villa anyway.
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I view him very differently to you.

Firstly his tactics are primarily to get his team to play on the counter, he spent huge money filling out the Villa squad with players who you yourself say aren't quality options. And one of the reasons Lerner was happy to see him go was that he had no faith in the youngsters coming through the Villa system.
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I thought he signed a lot of young quality homegrown players for Villa, which is quite a feat given their limited budget. Young, Milner and Agbonlahor rose in value dramatically at Villa and players like Albrighton, Delph and Delfosuenso will increase their value manyfold in a few years. We don't anything approaching this kind of quality in our young players.

The dramatic drop in performance since O'Neill left is another testament to how good a manager he is.
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I don't agree, improvement is easy when there's lots of money to spend and room to increase the wage bill. Villa did that with their eyes on the Champions League and failed to make it.

When money dries up and the focus is on managing the wage bill as it is now at Villa performance inevitably drops, just like it did with us under Rafa (and it's ongoing) and just like it's happening at Chelsea under Ancelotti too. When you find someone who can maintain the club's performance while cutting back, then you've found a pretty special manager.
 
Lerner wanted shut of MONg because he had a squad filled with high-earning players who MONg never seemed to use very often.n despite signing virtually all of them. Like Heskey, Young, Reo-Coker, Sidwell, Davies etc.

When asked to sell them if he wasn't going to play them, MONg walked.
 
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=43363.msg1242199#msg1242199 date=1294085471]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43363.msg1242187#msg1242187 date=1294084501]
[quote author=rurikbird link=topic=43363.msg1242182#msg1242182 date=1294084239]
Why isn't anybody mentioning Martin O'Neill? I think he is hands down the best candidate for the job. He fits FSG criteria of an attack-minded manager who likes to work with young players. And I love that he is not only thoughtful, but also passionate and a real players' coach. I always thought he was the most likely to become the next manager of a top–4 team in England, perhaps even as Fergie's successor. The only negative I see is that he doesn't seem to know how to use rotation, but that's not too hard to learn, so that's not a major issue. It's not like he had a wealth of quality options at Villa anyway.
[/quote]

I view him very differently to you.

Firstly his tactics are primarily to get his team to play on the counter, he spent huge money filling out the Villa squad with players who you yourself say aren't quality options. And one of the reasons Lerner was happy to see him go was that he had no faith in the youngsters coming through the Villa system.
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I thought he signed a lot of young quality homegrown players for Villa, which is quite a feat given their limited budget. Young, Milner and Agbonlahor rose in value dramatically at Villa and players like Albrighton, Delph and Delfosuenso will increase their value manyfold in a few years. We don't anything approaching this kind of quality in our young players.

The dramatic drop in performance since O'Neill left is another testament to how good a manager he is.
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Pepe was 22 when we signed him.
Alonso was 23
Macherano was 23
Torres was 23

Not homegrown, but there value has skyrocketed since joining us.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43363.msg1242108#msg1242108 date=1294079841]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43363.msg1242044#msg1242044 date=1294074909]
[quote author=kingjulian link=topic=43363.msg1242037#msg1242037 date=1294074364]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43363.msg1242029#msg1242029 date=1294073902]
David Dein knew him and appointed him.

David Dein is respected throughout the world and has superb football contacts at the very highest level.

Tom Werner knows Bill Cosby
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Tom Werner i think is a figurehead chairman.

Why do you keep insisting that he is calling all the shots. When there is no proof eitherway?

I don't really know who is calling the shots, but so far they have not got anything right or wrong. Give them a chance for fucks sake...

I'm interested in seeing who is likely to be appointed as the CEO. I'm also interested in seeing who they would appoint first...the CEO or Hodgson's replacement.
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I don't think David Dein was chairman of the Arse anyway. I'm pretty sure it was one of the Hill-Wood family, and the essence of what they brought to that club was stability and business acument rather than football knowledge, which is what Tom Werner and NESV are after. Our equivalent of Dein (a football man in a high position within the club but not in the chair itself) is Comolli, so - while I share Brendan's misgivings about Comolli himself - it seems to me that NESV are actually fixing to take LFC down the same kind of route as the Arse, and that'll do just fine in terms of a way to run the club, especially with the "financial fair play" bit coming in.
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David Dein isn't a football man. He's a businessman, who bought into Arsenal in the early 80's.
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Makes him a football man in this context IMO.
 
Klopp dismisses Anfield link PDF Print E-mail
Written by Darren Phillips
Monday, 03 January 2011 21:23

Borussia Dortmund manager, Jürgen Klopp, has dismissed speculation he is being lined up as a long term successor to Roy Hodgson.

At 43 years of age he fits the profile Fenway Sports Group are believed to have laid down for the next permanent Liverpool boss.

After turning his hand to management in his early 30s Klopp earned one of his country's highest profile jobs two and a half years ago.

"There has been no approach and there's no point talking about it," he said when rumours were put to him at a training camp during his country's winter break.

With Dortmund holding a commanding lead in the Bundesliga there is no appetite amongst executives at the Westfalenstadion to sanction his departure.

Borussia chief executive, Hans-Joachim Watzke, refused to extend any debate saying: "There's been no official approach because it would be a waste of time.

"Everybody knows there's no chance we'd let him go. We can but laugh [about links to Liverpool]. Jürgen is a friend of mine and he has a contract until 2014. He would never break it."

Klopp's fellow countryman Ralf Rangnick has also been linked to the Anfield hotseat

The 52-year old left Hoffenheim in recent days following the sale of Luis Gustavo to Bayern Munich.

Both Klopp and Rangnick have reputations for developing young talent.

On the playing front dutch international Eljero Elia is subject to interest and a tabled offer.

German tabloid the Hamburger Morgenpost report €15million has been laid down and accepted.

The 23-year-old striker was part of Holland's World Cup squad last summer appearing as a substitute in the final against Spain.

Hamburg deny accepting any offer but it is believed they would be willing to discuss a transfer if their valuation is met.
 
Rumour over on Est from a guy who the mods claim have very good contacts, that the B'Burn game will be Roys last. Regardless of a win or not.

I know we have all been let down to many times, but one can hope.

Anyone heard this rumour?
 
'wolves will be roy's last game regardless'

'bolton will be roy's last game regardless'

'blackburn will be roy's last game regardless'

'manu will be roy's last game regardless'
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=43363.msg1243069#msg1243069 date=1294219308]
Rumour over on Est from a guy who the mods claim have very good contacts, that the B'Burn game will be Roys last. Regardless of a win or not.

I know we have all been let down to many times, but one can hope.

Anyone heard this rumour?
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It's been on TLW for a couple of days but no-one has really picked up on it. Kenny to take over.
 
Suppose really they need to bide their time now to make sure that they have at least someone lined up in the summer. Kenny now will suffice, but i don't want any decision to have been made until the board know who our long term manager will be
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43363.msg1243081#msg1243081 date=1294220212]
roy sacked before a CEO appointed? sorry, can't see it.
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Why not?

No long term appointment will be made before the Ceo comes in, but if the decision is Kenny to temp there is no need to wait on the Ceo
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43363.msg1243082#msg1243082 date=1294220515]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=43363.msg1243081#msg1243081 date=1294220212]
roy sacked before a CEO appointed? sorry, can't see it.
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Why not?

No long term appointment will be made before the Ceo comes in, but if the decision is Kenny to temp there is no need to wait on the Ceo
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as I've said before, there may be reluctance to install an interim manager. they had the perfect get out after the wolves debacle but roy is still here. what are they waiting for, christmas?
 
[quote author=Fabio link=topic=43363.msg1243078#msg1243078 date=1294219883]
Suppose really they need to bide their time now to make sure that they have at least someone lined up in the summer. Kenny now will suffice, but i don't want any decision to have been made until the board know who our long term manager will be
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Disagree. On the contrary, if they already know I'd be very concerned that they might have unnecessarily limited their choice. Kenny now would be positively the best option IMO.
 
Pah, let's give roy till summer,let him claw back some dignity,walk away with an f.a cup or something.

We need to improve the first team no end in the next few weeks. I'd prefer if the board concentrated on that
 
Are you SERIOUS? Let him (and the team) struggle on to the end of the season, with about a 0.675% chance of "clawing back some dignity", let alone winning something? Give him a voice in choosing whom to buy (or alternatively make him work with players he didn't choose) and let him loose on training them? That's some nasty sh!t you're smoking.
 
I'm under the impression it'll cost a fair whack to sack him off.

I'd rather all resources were put towards improving our dire squad.

I think you're severely underestimating how bad this squad is. Its embarassing and I believe it to be more responsible for our lack of form.
 
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=43363.msg1243106#msg1243106 date=1294223235]
Pah, let's give roy till summer,let him claw back some dignity,walk away with an f.a cup or something.

We need to improve the first team no end in the next few weeks. I'd prefer if the board concentrated on that
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Lets not.
 
Also this talk about roy signing shite in this window or any, is well shite.

On several occasions its been said that dof,board rep and woy will all have to agree on any signings, which in my mind makes commoli and the board just as much in the line of fire, if indeed a marlon harewood type does sign.

roy isn't good for this clubs health in the long run but first and foremost this squad needs cleansing and rebuilding
 
You obviously missed the interview with Comolli in which he said there's already been one transfer target suggested by him which the club abandoned because Roy said no. Everybody knows he won't be the only person deciding whom we do sign (and BTW we won't be spending big in January anyway), but as long as he's around there's no escaping the fact that he will have a major say.

It's going to cost much the same whether he goes now or in the summer, and I think you've fallen for the smokescreen being put up in the media by Roy's pals in overestimating how weak the squad is. It's true we won't win the title without quality additions, but the squad has still underperformed badly under Roy.
 
With old roy in charge, we'd be lucky if we can qualify for uefa cup next season.

Most of the good players prefer to join clubs that play in european competitions, or earning big fat contracts like those in citeh.

More poulsen and konchesky to sign for us, if old roy is still in charge.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43363.msg1243119#msg1243119 date=1294224466]
You obviously missed the interview with Comolli in which he said there's already been one transfer target suggested by him which the club abandoned because Roy said no. Everybody knows he won't be the only person deciding whom we do sign (and BTW we won't be spending big in January anyway), but as long as he's around there's no escaping the fact that he will have a major say.

It's going to cost much the same whether he goes now or in the summer, and I think you've fallen for the smokescreen being put up in the media by Roy's pals in overestimating how weak the squad is. It's true we won't win the title without quality additions, but the squad has still underperformed badly under Roy.


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I missed that. One of the most pressing reasons why we have to sack the useless twat now. We don't want him rejecting transfer targets that don't fit in with his "footballing philosophy".

For fucks sake.
 
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=43363.msg1243132#msg1243132 date=1294226047]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=43363.msg1243119#msg1243119 date=1294224466]
You obviously missed the interview with Comolli in which he said there's already been one transfer target suggested by him which the club abandoned because Roy said no. Everybody knows he won't be the only person deciding whom we do sign (and BTW we won't be spending big in January anyway), but as long as he's around there's no escaping the fact that he will have a major say.

It's going to cost much the same whether he goes now or in the summer, and I think you've fallen for the smokescreen being put up in the media by Roy's pals in overestimating how weak the squad is. It's true we won't win the title without quality additions, but the squad has still underperformed badly under Roy.


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I missed that. One of the most pressing reasons why we have to sack the useless twat now. We don't want him rejecting transfer targets that don't fit in with his "footballing philosophy".

For fucks sake.

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Jules referring to this one:

He added, "I don't care what people say. And it won't happen here. If you sign a player that the manager doesn't want you are just throwing money into the bin. We had a very long meeting last week with Roy about the window. We went through the list and there was one player who Roy said 'This one, I really don't like him, I know him well and I'm not comfortable with him.' So we take him off. It is not issue".
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Cheers Binny. That was some weeks ago, no?

I'd assume that since then the decision to undermine Hodgson's long-term future at the club indicates that FSG won't be paying too much attention to thoughts on transfers either.
 
I'm convinced he's actually trying to turn us permanently into a mid-table, also-ran team - if he hasn't already. That's about as much as he can cope with
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=43363.msg1243147#msg1243147 date=1294227233]
I think the next league defeat will spell the end for Roy.
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that suggests the club is being run on a game to game basis
 
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=43363.msg1243106#msg1243106 date=1294223235]
Pah, let's give roy till summer,let him claw back some dignity,walk away with an f.a cup or something.

We need to improve the first team no end in the next few weeks. I'd prefer if the board concentrated on that
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Im presuming you havnt heard the FA cup draw yet then?
 
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