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Stephen ireland seems to have had one great season (last year). Not worth it.
Skrtel going is ok so long as kelly can step up.
I have no views whatsoever on the hull one
Skrtel going is ok so long as kelly can step up.
I have no views whatsoever on the hull one
Another starlet, eh? Woohoo!
Steven Ireland, crazy as he is, is a lovely footballer and would be a good signing for any team in the league.
Steven Ireland, crazy as he is, is a lovely footballer and would be a good signing for any team in the league.
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38835.msg1050704#msg1050704 date=1265543702]
Another starlet, eh? Woohoo!
Steven Ireland, crazy as he is, is a lovely footballer and would be a good signing for any team in the league.
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He's a good footballer, but he's mental. No thanks.
oh, & he's not good enough to be a first teamer.
Another starlet, eh? Woohoo!
Steven Ireland, crazy as he is, is a lovely footballer and would be a good signing for any team in the league.
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He's a good footballer, but he's mental. No thanks.
oh, & he's not good enough to be a first teamer.
Mourinho reveals exit options
Author: Andrew Allen
Inter Milan manager Jose Mourinho has revealed the details in his contract which allow him a premature exit from the San Siro. The self-styled ‘Special One’ who has garnered success in each of his coaching positions at Porto, Chelsea and Inter has regularly hinted that he could return to the Premier League in the near future with Liverpool, Manchester United and Manchester City all tipped as possible destinations.
With Rafael Benitez heavily linked with an exit from Liverpool, it is the Merseyside giants that appear to be leading the chase for Mourinho’s signature although such is the profile of the Portuguese tactician that competition is sure to be fierce to snap him u.
Speaking to the Portuguese press about his future, Mourinho revealed:
"The club [Inter] and I signed a very objective contract until 2012, because we want to work together.
"But there is a cancellation clause that Inter will pay me if they want my departure and another that I will pay Inter if I want to leave.
"It's all simple and very objective. There will never be a never-ending story with us as has happened in the past with other people. We are honest people with honest contracts and objectivity."
Movement between Italy and England has become an increasingly regular phenomenon in recent seasons with Claudio Ranieri leaving Chelsea for his homeland, Carlo Ancelotti quitting AC Milan for the Blues, Roberto Mancini taking up the reigns at Manchester City, Gianfranco Zola returning to London with West Ham United and the aforementioned Mourinho making his switch to Inter.
It is yet to be seen whether Rafael Benitez will be the next boss to move to Serie A, although with the Spaniard happily revealing contact from Juventus it appears that the Reds are at risk of losing their under-fire, but talented coach.
Mourinho is such a whore isn't he.
Still, whatever your personal tastes are I guess.
Author: Andrew Allen
Inter Milan manager Jose Mourinho has revealed the details in his contract which allow him a premature exit from the San Siro. The self-styled ‘Special One’ who has garnered success in each of his coaching positions at Porto, Chelsea and Inter has regularly hinted that he could return to the Premier League in the near future with Liverpool, Manchester United and Manchester City all tipped as possible destinations.
With Rafael Benitez heavily linked with an exit from Liverpool, it is the Merseyside giants that appear to be leading the chase for Mourinho’s signature although such is the profile of the Portuguese tactician that competition is sure to be fierce to snap him u.
Speaking to the Portuguese press about his future, Mourinho revealed:
"The club [Inter] and I signed a very objective contract until 2012, because we want to work together.
"But there is a cancellation clause that Inter will pay me if they want my departure and another that I will pay Inter if I want to leave.
"It's all simple and very objective. There will never be a never-ending story with us as has happened in the past with other people. We are honest people with honest contracts and objectivity."
Movement between Italy and England has become an increasingly regular phenomenon in recent seasons with Claudio Ranieri leaving Chelsea for his homeland, Carlo Ancelotti quitting AC Milan for the Blues, Roberto Mancini taking up the reigns at Manchester City, Gianfranco Zola returning to London with West Ham United and the aforementioned Mourinho making his switch to Inter.
It is yet to be seen whether Rafael Benitez will be the next boss to move to Serie A, although with the Spaniard happily revealing contact from Juventus it appears that the Reds are at risk of losing their under-fire, but talented coach.
Mourinho is such a whore isn't he.
Still, whatever your personal tastes are I guess.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38835.msg1050720#msg1050720 date=1265545202]
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38835.msg1050704#msg1050704 date=1265543702]
Another starlet, eh? Woohoo!
Steven Ireland, crazy as he is, is a lovely footballer and would be a good signing for any team in the league.
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He's a good footballer, but he's mental. No thanks.
oh, & he's not good enough to be a first teamer.
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I think he is these days. The only issue is that he is too similar to Aquilani and Gerrard in terms of the role he plays.
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38835.msg1050704#msg1050704 date=1265543702]
Another starlet, eh? Woohoo!
Steven Ireland, crazy as he is, is a lovely footballer and would be a good signing for any team in the league.
[/quote]
He's a good footballer, but he's mental. No thanks.
oh, & he's not good enough to be a first teamer.
[/quote]
I think he is these days. The only issue is that he is too similar to Aquilani and Gerrard in terms of the role he plays.
I'm not sure selling Skrtel is such a good idea. Kelly and Ayala are still unproven, and Carra's getting older and thus more prone to injuries and tiredness. Obviously depends on our budget and priorities, but it would nice to keep a more settled defence.
Ireland's a talented player, but he's neither a CM nor a winger, and we already have a couple of players with his profile (Yossi, Aquilani) so I'm not convinced he's what we need.
Never seen Cairney. Anyone?
Ireland's a talented player, but he's neither a CM nor a winger, and we already have a couple of players with his profile (Yossi, Aquilani) so I'm not convinced he's what we need.
Never seen Cairney. Anyone?
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38835.msg1050743#msg1050743 date=1265548266]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38835.msg1050720#msg1050720 date=1265545202]
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38835.msg1050704#msg1050704 date=1265543702]
Another starlet, eh? Woohoo!
Steven Ireland, crazy as he is, is a lovely footballer and would be a good signing for any team in the league.
[/quote]
He's a good footballer, but he's mental. No thanks.
oh, & he's not good enough to be a first teamer.
[/quote]
I think he is these days. The only issue is that he is too similar to Aquilani and Gerrard in terms of the role he plays.
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Sorry, should have elaborated. I did mean first teamer for us due to the fact we have two players who are both better playing where he plays.
i'm beginning to think buying Aquilani was perhaps a mistake, as he needs to play where Stevie does. I stupidly thought Rafa would play them both behind torres. I hope he adapts or rafa relents.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38835.msg1050720#msg1050720 date=1265545202]
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38835.msg1050704#msg1050704 date=1265543702]
Another starlet, eh? Woohoo!
Steven Ireland, crazy as he is, is a lovely footballer and would be a good signing for any team in the league.
[/quote]
He's a good footballer, but he's mental. No thanks.
oh, & he's not good enough to be a first teamer.
[/quote]
I think he is these days. The only issue is that he is too similar to Aquilani and Gerrard in terms of the role he plays.
[/quote]
Sorry, should have elaborated. I did mean first teamer for us due to the fact we have two players who are both better playing where he plays.
i'm beginning to think buying Aquilani was perhaps a mistake, as he needs to play where Stevie does. I stupidly thought Rafa would play them both behind torres. I hope he adapts or rafa relents.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38835.msg1050755#msg1050755 date=1265549679]
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38835.msg1050743#msg1050743 date=1265548266]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38835.msg1050720#msg1050720 date=1265545202]
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38835.msg1050704#msg1050704 date=1265543702]
Another starlet, eh? Woohoo!
Steven Ireland, crazy as he is, is a lovely footballer and would be a good signing for any team in the league.
[/quote]
He's a good footballer, but he's mental. No thanks.
oh, & he's not good enough to be a first teamer.
[/quote]
I think he is these days. The only issue is that he is too similar to Aquilani and Gerrard in terms of the role he plays.
[/quote]
Sorry, should have elaborated. I did mean first teamer for us due to the fact we have two players who are both better playing where he plays.
i'm beginning to think buying Aquilani was perhaps a mistake, as he needs to play where Stevie does. I stupidly thought Rafa would play them both behind torres. I hope he adapts or rafa relents.
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Aquilani needs to toughen up and get used to the speed of the PL before we can trust him in CM on a regular basis. Not impossible, but I doubt it'll happen this season.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=38835.msg1050743#msg1050743 date=1265548266]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38835.msg1050720#msg1050720 date=1265545202]
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38835.msg1050704#msg1050704 date=1265543702]
Another starlet, eh? Woohoo!
Steven Ireland, crazy as he is, is a lovely footballer and would be a good signing for any team in the league.
[/quote]
He's a good footballer, but he's mental. No thanks.
oh, & he's not good enough to be a first teamer.
[/quote]
I think he is these days. The only issue is that he is too similar to Aquilani and Gerrard in terms of the role he plays.
[/quote]
Sorry, should have elaborated. I did mean first teamer for us due to the fact we have two players who are both better playing where he plays.
i'm beginning to think buying Aquilani was perhaps a mistake, as he needs to play where Stevie does. I stupidly thought Rafa would play them both behind torres. I hope he adapts or rafa relents.
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Aquilani needs to toughen up and get used to the speed of the PL before we can trust him in CM on a regular basis. Not impossible, but I doubt it'll happen this season.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38835.msg1050744#msg1050744 date=1265548476]
I'm not sure selling Skrtel is such a good idea. Kelly and Ayala are still unproven, and Carra's getting older and thus more prone to injuries and tiredness. Obviously depends on our budget and priorities, but it would nice to keep a more settled defence.
Ireland's a talented player, but he's neither a CM nor a winger, and we already have a couple of players with his profile (Yossi, Aquilani) so I'm not convinced he's what we need.
Never seen Cairney. Anyone?
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Saw the Man City Hull game yesterday. Too early to make any judgements. He looked decent, I dont remember him doing anything special but he looked competent.
I'm not sure selling Skrtel is such a good idea. Kelly and Ayala are still unproven, and Carra's getting older and thus more prone to injuries and tiredness. Obviously depends on our budget and priorities, but it would nice to keep a more settled defence.
Ireland's a talented player, but he's neither a CM nor a winger, and we already have a couple of players with his profile (Yossi, Aquilani) so I'm not convinced he's what we need.
Never seen Cairney. Anyone?
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Saw the Man City Hull game yesterday. Too early to make any judgements. He looked decent, I dont remember him doing anything special but he looked competent.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38835.msg1050758#msg1050758 date=1265549765]
Aquilani needs to toughen up and get used to the speed of the PL before we can trust him in CM on a regular basis. Not impossible, but I doubt it'll happen this season.
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The game he played as an AM in Stevie's absence (I'm hungover so cant remember what game it was) was by far & away his best performance, and whilst Torres isnt playing we should definitely be playing Stevie RM & Aqua behind Kuyt IMO.
Aquilani needs to toughen up and get used to the speed of the PL before we can trust him in CM on a regular basis. Not impossible, but I doubt it'll happen this season.
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The game he played as an AM in Stevie's absence (I'm hungover so cant remember what game it was) was by far & away his best performance, and whilst Torres isnt playing we should definitely be playing Stevie RM & Aqua behind Kuyt IMO.
From what I have seen from Aquilani so far in a red shirt I'd rather have Ireland in our squad. He gets from box to box with ease, is a superb passer and has a lovely first touch on him. He may be mental off the pitch but on it he doesn't go flying into anyone and pick up silly cards.
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38835.msg1050781#msg1050781 date=1265551063]
From what I have seen from Aquilani so far in a red shirt I'd rather have Ireland in our squad. He gets from box to box with ease, is a superb passer and has a lovely first touch on him. He may be mental off the pitch but on it he doesn't go flying into anyone and pick up silly cards.
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Players being mental off the pitch causes huge problems within the team, the problems Collymore caused were immense & the main reason for him leaving. Fowler was the most effected (they hated each other due to Stan's big mouth & perpetual lies), but he caused loads of problems in training too. If you ever meet Robbie ask him, he'll gladly rant about Collymore for half an hour to you!
From what I have seen from Aquilani so far in a red shirt I'd rather have Ireland in our squad. He gets from box to box with ease, is a superb passer and has a lovely first touch on him. He may be mental off the pitch but on it he doesn't go flying into anyone and pick up silly cards.
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Players being mental off the pitch causes huge problems within the team, the problems Collymore caused were immense & the main reason for him leaving. Fowler was the most effected (they hated each other due to Stan's big mouth & perpetual lies), but he caused loads of problems in training too. If you ever meet Robbie ask him, he'll gladly rant about Collymore for half an hour to you!
Turner is poor.
I don't really mind if Skrtel sticks around as he's shown in the past that he can play well in a settled side, however earlier in the season when we were at our worst, I went back on my opinion in the summer and decided that we do need a CB to come in as first / second choice.
I think Rafa believes Agger is the better defender, so unless we can afford to buy another CB and keep Skrtel for the squad (which I doubt), it looks like he has to lose out.
I think Rafa believes Agger is the better defender, so unless we can afford to buy another CB and keep Skrtel for the squad (which I doubt), it looks like he has to lose out.
[quote author=jan link=topic=38835.msg1050792#msg1050792 date=1265551735]
Fuck Stephen Ireland, I don't want that mental sorry cunt anywhere near Liverpool.
[/quote] There is nothing sorry about his ability, Jan.
Fuck Stephen Ireland, I don't want that mental sorry cunt anywhere near Liverpool.
[/quote] There is nothing sorry about his ability, Jan.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38835.msg1050789#msg1050789 date=1265551589]
Players being mental off the pitch causes huge problems within the team, the problems Collymore caused were immense & the main reason for him leaving. Fowler was the most effected (they hated each other due to Stan's big mouth & perpetual lies), but he caused loads of problems in training too. If you ever meet Robbie ask him, he'll gladly rant about Collymore for half an hour to you!
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It's my view that Collymore is a diffierent universe of craziness to Ireland. From what I have read the whole Team Bridge thing was Ireland's idea. He is an important part of that squad and seems to be well liked by his team mates. Ok so he is an extrovert, but he's not the type of destructive personality Collymore was/is.
Players being mental off the pitch causes huge problems within the team, the problems Collymore caused were immense & the main reason for him leaving. Fowler was the most effected (they hated each other due to Stan's big mouth & perpetual lies), but he caused loads of problems in training too. If you ever meet Robbie ask him, he'll gladly rant about Collymore for half an hour to you!
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It's my view that Collymore is a diffierent universe of craziness to Ireland. From what I have read the whole Team Bridge thing was Ireland's idea. He is an important part of that squad and seems to be well liked by his team mates. Ok so he is an extrovert, but he's not the type of destructive personality Collymore was/is.
Ireland is a head case alright but more so in an odd/entertaining way than Collymore who was just destructive. I think hes a better player than Yossi and from what Ive seen so far Aqualani too. He wont score 15 a season but he does have goals in him, he links play well and has a good eye for a killer pass. If Yossi left and was replaced by Ireland for a similar fee it would be good business in my opinion
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=38835.msg1050834#msg1050834 date=1265557211]
If Yossi left and was replaced by Ireland for a similar fee it would be good business in my opinion
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Perhaps, but it's not very likely is it?
If Yossi left and was replaced by Ireland for a similar fee it would be good business in my opinion
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Perhaps, but it's not very likely is it?
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=38835.msg1050834#msg1050834 date=1265557211]
Ireland is a head case alright but more so in an odd/entertaining way than Collymore who was just destructive. I think hes a better player than Yossi and from what Ive seen so far Aqualani too. He wont score 15 a season but he does have goals in him, he links play well and has a good eye for a killer pass. If Yossi left and was replaced by Ireland for a similar fee it would be good business in my opinion
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He really isnt a better player than Aquilani.
Ireland is a head case alright but more so in an odd/entertaining way than Collymore who was just destructive. I think hes a better player than Yossi and from what Ive seen so far Aqualani too. He wont score 15 a season but he does have goals in him, he links play well and has a good eye for a killer pass. If Yossi left and was replaced by Ireland for a similar fee it would be good business in my opinion
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He really isnt a better player than Aquilani.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38835.msg1050840#msg1050840 date=1265558782]
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=38835.msg1050834#msg1050834 date=1265557211]
Ireland is a head case alright but more so in an odd/entertaining way than Collymore who was just destructive. I think hes a better player than Yossi and from what Ive seen so far Aqualani too. He wont score 15 a season but he does have goals in him, he links play well and has a good eye for a killer pass. If Yossi left and was replaced by Ireland for a similar fee it would be good business in my opinion
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He really isnt a better player than Aquilani.
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Based on what?
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=38835.msg1050834#msg1050834 date=1265557211]
Ireland is a head case alright but more so in an odd/entertaining way than Collymore who was just destructive. I think hes a better player than Yossi and from what Ive seen so far Aqualani too. He wont score 15 a season but he does have goals in him, he links play well and has a good eye for a killer pass. If Yossi left and was replaced by Ireland for a similar fee it would be good business in my opinion
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He really isnt a better player than Aquilani.
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Based on what?
I'd be happy if all 3 went through.
Skrtel is a good player and its rather shortsighted to think we won't need him.
We'd be left with Agger who is bound to get injured again at some point, Carra who is great but over 30, the Greek who is also over 30 and is no better than Skrtel and Kelly who might be good but has next to no experience.
I'd take Ireland, pikey mentalist that he is.
We'd be left with Agger who is bound to get injured again at some point, Carra who is great but over 30, the Greek who is also over 30 and is no better than Skrtel and Kelly who might be good but has next to no experience.
I'd take Ireland, pikey mentalist that he is.
[quote author=Ossi link=topic=38835.msg1051111#msg1051111 date=1265617352]
I wouldn´t mind Ireland (for a bargain price). Skrtel for 8m is a tough one...but we have Carragher, Agger and Kyrgiakos. Perhaps if Kelly is ready 8m on a attacker would be nice.
Opinions about Tom Cairney?
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I think he may become an outstanding midfielder, he started in Hull's Beijing tour and looks like he has everything to develop into a midfielder, also over 6ft and I believe and already seems mature. Definetly one to keep an eye on.
I wouldn´t mind Ireland (for a bargain price). Skrtel for 8m is a tough one...but we have Carragher, Agger and Kyrgiakos. Perhaps if Kelly is ready 8m on a attacker would be nice.
Opinions about Tom Cairney?
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I think he may become an outstanding midfielder, he started in Hull's Beijing tour and looks like he has everything to develop into a midfielder, also over 6ft and I believe and already seems mature. Definetly one to keep an eye on.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=38835.msg1050842#msg1050842 date=1265558994]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38835.msg1050840#msg1050840 date=1265558782]
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=38835.msg1050834#msg1050834 date=1265557211]
Ireland is a head case alright but more so in an odd/entertaining way than Collymore who was just destructive. I think hes a better player than Yossi and from what Ive seen so far Aqualani too. He wont score 15 a season but he does have goals in him, he links play well and has a good eye for a killer pass. If Yossi left and was replaced by Ireland for a similar fee it would be good business in my opinion
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He really isnt a better player than Aquilani.
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Based on what?
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Good question Bunny. Ireland has been in the Premiership for a number of years now and in a team of 'superstars' has often been the best player for City over sustained periods. As it stands right now, he is far superior to Aquilani. I hope that Aquilani will settle and produce the quality he is supposed to have.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=38835.msg1050840#msg1050840 date=1265558782]
[quote author=RedStar link=topic=38835.msg1050834#msg1050834 date=1265557211]
Ireland is a head case alright but more so in an odd/entertaining way than Collymore who was just destructive. I think hes a better player than Yossi and from what Ive seen so far Aqualani too. He wont score 15 a season but he does have goals in him, he links play well and has a good eye for a killer pass. If Yossi left and was replaced by Ireland for a similar fee it would be good business in my opinion
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He really isnt a better player than Aquilani.
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Based on what?
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Good question Bunny. Ireland has been in the Premiership for a number of years now and in a team of 'superstars' has often been the best player for City over sustained periods. As it stands right now, he is far superior to Aquilani. I hope that Aquilani will settle and produce the quality he is supposed to have.
[quote author=Stu link=topic=38835.msg1051233#msg1051233 date=1265633399]As it stands right now, he is far superior to Aquilani.
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Well, strictly speaking that's up for debate and I'm guessing why you're being called on it. One has to hope that in terms of natural ability, Aquilani wins.
I think the point you're trying to make - correct me if I'm wrong - is that Ireland is proven in the league, whereas Aqualini is not.
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Well, strictly speaking that's up for debate and I'm guessing why you're being called on it. One has to hope that in terms of natural ability, Aquilani wins.
I think the point you're trying to make - correct me if I'm wrong - is that Ireland is proven in the league, whereas Aqualini is not.
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