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Klopp speaks about return to coaching

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Oh it's an internet forum for heaven's sake, not some intellectual think tank exclusively open to the articulate. Not all of us are silver tongued like you are. And besides, only the most finicky could mistake the name calling of someone like Mr Moo to be the most literal expression of his regard for Rodgers' character.


Most of us swear and give it out, I don't know why there was a call for the patronising tone to JJ.

Moo posts the same stuff in most threads, its not about intellect, he's dragging threads down with the same crap. By your reckoning it should be a free for all, despite how lenient the forum generally is.
 
From my observations, most posters on this forum have the capacity for self moderation, so no, I very much doubt it'd be a free for all.

If however, as a moderator, you feel the need to impose some minimum standards of decorum, make it a rule, enforce it and wield the ban stick. There's not any need to consistently harangue someone- it should be evident by now that your constant reprobation of his language is unlikely to foster a change in his attitude, as your experiences with Modo et al demonstrate.
 
From my observations, most posters on this forum have the capacity for self moderation, so no, I very much doubt it'd be a free for all.

If however, as a moderator, you feel the need to impose some minimum standards of decorum, make it a rule, enforce it and wield the ban stick. There's not any need to consistently harangue someone- it should be evident by now that your constant reprobation of his language is unlikely to foster a change in his attitude, as your experiences with Modo et al demonstrate.

It's in the rules, read the rules. Like I said, we're pretty lenient. He's been asked on several occasions to stop it and it hasn't happened. It's other posters who've taken offense here, I've just followed that up, so it's not my "constant re-probation", I'd given up bothering.

You've just pretty much answered your own questioning of why I've pulled him up anyway. Most posters DO have the capacity for self moderation, some don't. Ergo, the attitude of "it's an internet forum for heaven's sake" doesn't wash (or work) and we're going to pull up people like Moo when he's clearly pissed a few people off. He's been warned, next time he's booted.

Thanks for the modding lesson anyway, and I'm sure JJ will thank you for your compliment re how silver tongued he is in comparison to you (right after he's read your subsequent completely articulated waffle posts).
 
I invite you to show me where, within the Forum Posting Principles, posters are expressly prohibited from insulting individuals external to the forum.
 
He's been asked to curb it numerous times and he knows there is a way of expressing his dissatisfaction. He's been asked to refrain from a particular type of posting and he's failed to do so:

This is a catch-all principle for general trolling, bitching and similar. Certain posters have an ability to piss off large quanties of regulars on here. If a moderator feels that said poster is doing this intentionally or is the cause of the mess, then the poster can and will be warned/banned. If this poster was being goaded by others, then they'll be the ones getting warned/banned.
 
It all gets a little arbitrary when the moderators have differing levels of tolerance doesn't it?

What differing levels? Like I said, we're lenient, it's a fairly basic set of rules yeah (sorry it covers calling Rodgers a twat a bit too implicitly).

It applies here over what Moo is doing, thanks for completely failing to acknowledge that though. He's been asked to stop, he's carried it on knowing he's getting peoples backs up, so he falls under that category. So where's the differing level of tolerance?

There's a feedback forum if you've got any suggestions about how you think it might work better.
 
Please, you give yourself too little credit for the identifying and (eventual) hounding out of the likes of Modo and Moo. And let's not pretend that I'm the first to make such an observation.

Anyway, I see what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears, so I'll leave it at that.
 
Please, you give yourself too little credit for the identifying and (eventual) hounding out of the likes of Modo and Moo. And let's not pretend that I'm the first to make such an observation.

Anyway, I see what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears, so I'll leave it at that.

You mean every point you've raised I've acknowledged (while everyone response I've made, you've failed to acknowledge). Nice try.

Sorry you didn't get the fight you were looking for. Maybe next time, instead of wasting two pages hopelessly skirting around the issue with thinly veiled digs, just say what you really think and we'll save both of us the time and the bother x
 
Please, you give yourself too little credit for the identifying and (eventual) hounding out of the likes of Modo and Moo. And let's not pretend that I'm the first to make such an observation.

Modo seems to be back posting under a new guise and low and behold the majority of posts seem to be aimed at Rodgers. Moo also seems to have gone down the Modo route and the majority of his posts are bout Rodgers or in threads that be lead that way.

@mark1975, will you do me a favour please? I want to conduct a social experiment. Can you totally ignore negative comments about the manager including personal insults to him? I want to see if the posters that are being highlighted and hounded for such repetitive posts get bored and as a result they actively contribute to the other parts of the forum or threads that aren't based solely on Rodgers.
 
You know, like Peter said, there are days you are completely impervious to reason. For what it's worth, it's abundantly clear the only one looking for a fight was you, wading in after Jules and I were quite content to disagree about what was excessive. Only you're so hopelessly conceited you actually think you've "won". Or something to that effect.
 
Aside from all of this silly bickering - Serious question is there any chance Klopp would come to us? He would seem to be a good fit. He does seem to have a genuine affection for the club.
 
Aside from all of this silly bickering - Serious question is there any chance Klopp would come to us? He would seem to be a good fit. He does seem to have a genuine affection for the club.


No idea. It's guesswork from the murmurings of his agent and putting two and two together I suppose. If he was interested they we should have moved for him in the summer.
 
No idea. It's guesswork from the murmurings of his agent and putting two and two together I suppose. If he was interested they we should have moved for him in the summer.
Yeah agreed - Oh well. I'd be well open to the idea of him coming here though.
 
You know, like Peter said, there are days you are completely impervious to reason. For what it's worth, it's abundantly clear the only one looking for a fight was you, wading in after Jules and I were quite content to disagree about what was excessive. Only you're so hopelessly conceited you actually think you've "won". Or something to that effect.

I was looking for a fight? Maybe you should read back through your posts and then re look at the meaning of conceited.

Like I said, if you had something to say, next time just say it instead of skirting around the issue. People took offense to Moo, you jumped in asking why posters would be tired of him posting nonsense. Mods have pulled him up on it, so don't be surprised when a mod replies to explain why he's been warned. Or next time, don't fucking ask.

You've asked for explanations and I've provided them, only for you to come back with an even more obtuse response each time, but I'm the one looking for a fight.

Like I said, if you've got a problem there's a feedback thread, use it.
 
I hope it wasn't my post that caused this friction. It certainly wasn't meant to. One of the great things about this forum for me, is reading people's views and opinions, whether I agree with them or not.

I am not a blinkered Rodgers fan. In fact at the moment I would be leaning very much towards those who feel he simply isn't up to the job including Mr Moo.

I just felt, as I always feel, that it should be possible to make a point without being disrespectful, and calling anyone a "piece of shit" is in my opinion, being disrespectful.
 
I agree that calling someone a "piece of shit" is needless and a bit nasty but ultimately it doesn't really register until someone points it out. I'm more bothered by the seemingly endless petty bickering. It might be that it feels more prominent because the forum is dead but would be nice if a middle ground could be found.
 
I agree that calling someone a "piece of shit" is needless and a bit nasty but ultimately it doesn't really register until someone points it out. I'm more bothered by the seemingly endless petty bickering. It might be that it feels more prominent because the forum is dead but would be nice if a middle ground could be found.


Agree keni.

I posted this above but i'll slap it here again.

@mark1975, will you do me a favour please? I want to conduct a social experiment. Can you totally ignore negative comments about the manager including personal insults to him? I want to see if the posters that are being highlighted and hounded for such repetitive posts get bored and as a result they actively contribute to the other parts of the forum or threads that aren't based solely on Rodgers.
 
I like this idea of a SCM social experiment. After ILD's is finished, I'd like everyone to smoke a few bowls and then start this thread over. Then try it on acid. It'd be amazing to see the varying degree of wankerdom each drug causes, and whether the current level can be topped.

Do something other than complain. And if yous are going to argue, at least make it interesting for me to read, someone threaten to break someone's jaw at least.

Boring bastards
 
Most of us swear and give it out, I don't know why there was a call for the patronising tone to JJ. Moo posts the same stuff in most threads, its not about intellect, he's dragging threads down with the same crap. By your reckoning it should be a free for all, despite how lenient the forum generally is.
In fairness, Mark, you've been dragging threads down with the same crap for ages now. There seems to be no end to your oh-so-virtuous rage. With no Modo to complain about, you seem to have turned your attention to Peter, whom you chase around the forum like an angry (and particularly verbose) Jack Russel. I guess mr moo is the latest poster you feel compelled to rid us of, never mind how tiresome it is for the rest of us to witness. I'm not endorsing his behaviour, but on its own I find it completely harmless (I mean, we've tolerated much worse on here before now). What I find harder to bear is you pouncing on any opportunity to bark at people from your moral high ground.

The process has become all too familiar. You paint someone as a villain and then harangue them until they become one. Then you claim some pathetic moral victory. i_rushie is a very reasonable and considered poster, and was entirely fair in what he said. And yet within a couple of posts you have reduced the conversation into some petty squabble, which you seem hellbent on winning. It's repetetive and boring, and serves no purpose other than for you to vent some of that pent up frustration. I wish you'd take it out elsewhere.
 
Please, you give yourself too little credit for the identifying and (eventual) hounding out of the likes of Modo and Moo. And let's not pretend that I'm the first to make such an observation.

Anyway, I see what I'm saying is falling on deaf ears, so I'll leave it at that.

Like most things regarding Rodgers with mark. Not sure I've actually received any formal warning mark. But as been pointed out, some of you are far too precious at times, it's unbelievable how easy it is to wind some of you up. You say I need to take a break, haha, I think some of you need to take break. I stand by my Rodgers comment. Boom, I'm gone
 
In fairness, Mark, you've been dragging threads down with the same crap for ages now. There seems to be no end to your oh-so-virtuous rage. With no Modo to complain about, you seem to have turned your attention to Peter, whom you chase around the forum like an angry (and particularly verbose) Jack Russel. I guess mr moo is the latest poster you feel compelled to rid us of, never mind how tiresome it is for the rest of us to witness. I'm not endorsing his behaviour, but on its own I find it completely harmless (I mean, we've tolerated much worse on here before now). What I find harder to bear is you pouncing on any opportunity to bark at people from your moral high ground.

The process has become all too familiar. You paint someone as a villain and then harangue them until they become one. Then you claim some pathetic moral victory. i_rushie is a very reasonable and considered poster, and was entirely fair in what he said. And yet within a couple of posts you have reduced the conversation into some petty squabble, which you seem hellbent on winning. It's repetetive and boring, and serves no purpose other than for you to vent some of that pent up frustration. I wish you'd take it out elsewhere.

What pathetic moral victories have I claimed? Show me. I'm not justifying myself in this thread to you or to anyone, Moo has got away with this stuff for ages without being pulled up on it. He winds up a few posters, they respond and so I posted. Peter got it from all angles a few weeks ago because he was being a dick, it wasn't just from me, in fact in one thread I defended him, but he went off on one for a couple of weeks and ALOT of people noticed and commented and bit back at him. It happens, so why aren't you jumping on them?

If people want to troll around threads posting the same brainless posts then I'll let them do it from now on and see how long it carries on before posters get pissed off and go elsewhere, as they have in the past.

Fair enough if I've got carried away in spats with people, but some posters take the piss. Yet on it's own you find that repetitive, pointless posting style "harmless", but as soon as they get a bite then it's the fault of the people who reply and it's all about moral victories. Whatever Del.
 
It's obviously not done overtly. It's more implied, for example in the posturing 'nice try' effort above.

I'm not going to be drawn into a petty squabble, though. I just think a bit of self-awareness is in order, that's all. You used to be such a diplomat. Now you're like a George Bush trying to rid the world of evil, seemingly unaware that you are part of the problem.
 
Maybe he is a piece of shit. If you asked some of our players that left us then they said that he acted like a piece of shit against them. If you ask his ex wife then she would most probably say that he is a piece of shit. If you dig deep and take some time and read about Rodgers then you will find out that he isn't exactly the most honest man around.

I don't respect Rodgers at all because he don't deserve my respect. He will lie straight to your face and won't care a bit about it.
 
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