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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095515#msg1095515 date=1272534736]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39986.msg1095504#msg1095504 date=1272534108]
Spider,

Who would you trust more with 50m.


Benitez or Jose?
[/quote]

rafa has bought = alonso, torres, pepe - pure quality

jose has bought = drogba, essien, carvalho - pure quality

I rate their eye for talent as roughly the same
[/quote]Yup I think those 6 players just about some up the combined 12 years of transfer activity perfectly.
 
'King Jose' is no doubt one of the top managers in world football, no question. But then we already have a top manager in world football, one who is loyal and committed to boot.

The 'Special One' would not risk his special reputation managing Liverpool, who don't have a brass farthing to challenge for anything of note. I also have a problem hiring short term managers. That would take the club down a road that I feel would change the very nature of our club.

Jose is also a cunt of the highest order.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39986.msg1095529#msg1095529 date=1272535371]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095515#msg1095515 date=1272534736]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39986.msg1095504#msg1095504 date=1272534108]
Spider,

Who would you trust more with 50m.


Benitez or Jose?
[/quote]

rafa has bought = alonso, torres, pepe - pure quality

jose has bought = drogba, essien, carvalho - pure quality

I rate their eye for talent as roughly the same
[/quote]Yup I think those 6 players just about some up the combined 12 years of transfer activity perfectly.
[/quote]

okay oncy list rafa's successes in the transfer marker compared to jose's successes
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095534#msg1095534 date=1272535600]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39986.msg1095529#msg1095529 date=1272535371]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095515#msg1095515 date=1272534736]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39986.msg1095504#msg1095504 date=1272534108]
Spider,

Who would you trust more with 50m.


Benitez or Jose?
[/quote]

rafa has bought = alonso, torres, pepe - pure quality

jose has bought = drogba, essien, carvalho - pure quality

I rate their eye for talent as roughly the same
[/quote]Yup I think those 6 players just about some up the combined 12 years of transfer activity perfectly.
[/quote]

okay oncy list rafa's successes in the transfer marker compared to jose's successes
[/quote]No need mate, you've done it so succinctly.
I'd also add that I think a fair barometer of Rafas prefered playing style over the last 6 years are the 8-0 vs Besiktas, The 4-0 vs Madrid and the 6-1 against hull.
 
Here's just a few of Jose's flops:

Khalid Boulahrouz Hamburg £7m
John Mikel Obi Lyn £16m
Andrei Shevchenko AC Milan £30.8m
Shaun Wright-Phillips Manchester City £21m
Scott Sinclair
Asier Del Horno Athletic Bilbao £8m
Jiri Jarosik CSKA Moscow £4.83m
Tiago Benfica £8m
Mateja Kezman PSV Eindhoven £5m
Paulo Ferreira £13m
Quaresma £15m
Mancini £13m
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39986.msg1095542#msg1095542 date=1272536090]
Here's just a few of Jose flops:

Khalid Boulahrouz Hamburg £7m
John Mikel Obi Lyn £16m
Andrei Shevchenko AC Milan £30.8m
Shaun Wright-Phillips Manchester City £21m
Scott Sinclair
Asier Del Horno Athletic Bilbao £8m
Jiri Jarosik CSKA Moscow £4.83m
Tiago Benfica £8m
Mateja Kezman PSV Eindhoven £5m
Paulo Ferreira £13m
Quaresma £15m
Mancini £13m
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yeah... but he did spend the other £125M wisely.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39986.msg1095542#msg1095542 date=1272536090]
Here's just a few of Jose flops:

Khalid Boulahrouz Hamburg £7m
John Mikel Obi Lyn £16m
Andrei Shevchenko AC Milan £30.8m
Shaun Wright-Phillips Manchester City £21m
Scott Sinclair
Asier Del Horno Athletic Bilbao £8m
Jiri Jarosik CSKA Moscow £4.83m
Tiago Benfica £8m
Mateja Kezman PSV Eindhoven £5m
Paulo Ferreira £13m
Quaresma £15m
Mancini £13m
[/quote]

ouch!!

although I see mancini has landed back on his feet as coach of man city
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39986.msg1095542#msg1095542 date=1272536090]
Here's just a few of Jose flops:

Khalid Boulahrouz Hamburg £7m
John Mikel Obi Lyn £16m
Andrei Shevchenko AC Milan £30.8m
Shaun Wright-Phillips Manchester City £21m
Scott Sinclair
Asier Del Horno Athletic Bilbao £8m
Jiri Jarosik CSKA Moscow £4.83m
Tiago Benfica £8m
Mateja Kezman PSV Eindhoven £5m
Paulo Ferreira £13m
Quaresma £15m
Mancini £13m
[/quote]

could you call ballack a success?
 
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=39986.msg1095548#msg1095548 date=1272537404]
must be our main priority this summer.
[/quote]

I think our main priority is holding onto torres.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39986.msg1095542#msg1095542 date=1272536090]
Here's just a few of Jose's flops:

Khalid Boulahrouz Hamburg £7m
John Mikel Obi Lyn £16m
Andrei Shevchenko AC Milan £30.8m
Shaun Wright-Phillips Manchester City £21m
Scott Sinclair
Asier Del Horno Athletic Bilbao £8m
Jiri Jarosik CSKA Moscow £4.83m
Tiago Benfica £8m
Mateja Kezman PSV Eindhoven £5m
Paulo Ferreira £13m
Quaresma £15m
Mancini £13m
[/quote]

Yeah, like Shevchenko was top of Jose's list. Or even on it.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095549#msg1095549 date=1272537538]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=39986.msg1095548#msg1095548 date=1272537404]
must be our main priority this summer.
[/quote]

I think our main priority is holding onto torres.
[/quote]
Mourinho coming would convince Torres to stay.
What Gene said.
 
The last time we looked for a manager we were looking a manager who had won something in recent times.

At that time, Rafa and Jose were considered because they had won something of significance consistently.

This time round, I can't think of many names except Jose (again) and Guardiola.

That's the thing, we have to get a WINNER in, not someone whom we just *think* can win us a title.
 
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=39986.msg1095560#msg1095560 date=1272538521]
The last time we looked for a manager we were looking a manager who had won something in recent times.

At that time, Rafa and Jose were considered because they had won something of significance consistently.

This time round, I can't think of many names except Jose (again) and Guardiola.

That's the thing, we have to get a WINNER in, not someone whom we just *think* can win us a title.
[/quote]
When Mourinho won the Champions Legue with Poto against Monaco I reckon the quality of that tournament was pretty much equal of the Europa League of this Season.

So whomever wins that trophy this time around would be a good bet.

Step up Rafael Benitez.

Or Roy Hodgson.
 
[quote author=KHL link=topic=39986.msg1095563#msg1095563 date=1272539054]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=39986.msg1095560#msg1095560 date=1272538521]
The last time we looked for a manager we were looking a manager who had won something in recent times.

At that time, Rafa and Jose were considered because they had won something of significance consistently.

This time round, I can't think of many names except Jose (again) and Guardiola.

That's the thing, we have to get a WINNER in, not someone whom we just *think* can win us a title.
[/quote]
When Mourinho won the Champions Legue with Poto against Monaco I reckon the quality of that tournament was pretty much equal of the Europa League of this Season.

So whomever wins that trophy this time around would be a good bet.

Step up Rafael Benitez.

Or Roy Hodgson.
[/quote]

ha ha now that is what I call hyper logic
 
When Mourinho won the Champions Legue with Poto against Monaco I reckon the quality of that tournament was pretty much equal of the Europa League of this Season.

So whomever wins that trophy this time around would be a good bet.
Click to expand...

Oh shut the fuck up.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095565#msg1095565 date=1272539175]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=39986.msg1095563#msg1095563 date=1272539054]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=39986.msg1095560#msg1095560 date=1272538521]
The last time we looked for a manager we were looking a manager who had won something in recent times.

At that time, Rafa and Jose were considered because they had won something of significance consistently.

This time round, I can't think of many names except Jose (again) and Guardiola.

That's the thing, we have to get a WINNER in, not someone whom we just *think* can win us a title.
[/quote]
When Mourinho won the Champions Legue with Poto against Monaco I reckon the quality of that tournament was pretty much equal of the Europa League of this Season.

So whomever wins that trophy this time around would be a good bet.

Step up Rafael Benitez.

Or Roy Hodgson.
[/quote]

ha ha now that is what I call hyper logic
[/quote]


I think you call it cretin logic
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39986.msg1095542#msg1095542 date=1272536090]
Here's just a few of Jose's flops:

Khalid Boulahrouz Hamburg £7m
John Mikel Obi Lyn £16m
Andrei Shevchenko AC Milan £30.8m
Shaun Wright-Phillips Manchester City £21m
Scott Sinclair
Asier Del Horno Athletic Bilbao £8m
Jiri Jarosik CSKA Moscow £4.83m
Tiago Benfica £8m
Mateja Kezman PSV Eindhoven £5m
Paulo Ferreira £13m
Quaresma £15m
Mancini £13m
[/quote]

Most of those 'flops' have league medals now.

There are also a few I still wish we'd signed or who I think are/were better than players we currently have playing in their positions.
 
Mikel is a decent player. Certainly not a flop, while not pulling up any trees. Mourinho clearly didn't want Shevchenko, like Keane with Benitez. Arf!

I certainly wouldn't trust Benitez with £50 million to spend if recent catastrophic transfer windows are anything to go by. I don't see how anybody would want him to. The last time he got something right was 3 years ago. And that's because of Torres alone.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=39986.msg1095643#msg1095643 date=1272549990]
Mourinho clearly didn't want Shevchenko, like Keane with Benitez. Arf!

[/quote]

ha ha
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=39986.msg1095643#msg1095643 date=1272549990]

Mourinho clearly didn't want Shevchenko, like Keane with Benitez. Arf!

[/quote]

What, so you're saying that Abramocunt's influence on the transfers and team had no influence on Mourinho leaving, and that Parry's influence at Liverpool was similar re: Keane?

Because if you ARE saying that, you're a fucking moron.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39986.msg1095552#msg1095552 date=1272537940]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39986.msg1095542#msg1095542 date=1272536090]
Here's just a few of Jose's flops:

Khalid Boulahrouz Hamburg £7m
John Mikel Obi Lyn £16m
Andrei Shevchenko AC Milan £30.8m
Shaun Wright-Phillips Manchester City £21m
Scott Sinclair
Asier Del Horno Athletic Bilbao £8m
Jiri Jarosik CSKA Moscow £4.83m
Tiago Benfica £8m
Mateja Kezman PSV Eindhoven £5m
Paulo Ferreira £13m
Quaresma £15m
Mancini £13m
[/quote]

Yeah, like Shevchenko was top of Jose's list. Or even on it.
[/quote]

= very valid point

I just lke the togetherness his teams have
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39986.msg1095655#msg1095655 date=1272550650]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=39986.msg1095643#msg1095643 date=1272549990]

Mourinho clearly didn't want Shevchenko, like Keane with Benitez. Arf!

[/quote]

What, so you're saying that Abramocunt's influence on the transfers and team had no influence on Mourinho leaving, and that Parry's influence at Liverpool was similar re: Keane?

Because if you ARE saying that, you're a fucking moron.
[/quote]

No I'm saying Mourinho didn't want Shevchenko. But some smartarse will counter act that by saying Rafa didn't want Keane.
 
jose probably didn't want sheva but he didn't exactly make the best use of him when he was there so that still counts as a flop imho.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39986.msg1095655#msg1095655 date=1272550650]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=39986.msg1095643#msg1095643 date=1272549990]

Mourinho clearly didn't want Shevchenko, like Keane with Benitez. Arf!

[/quote]

What, so you're saying that Abramocunt's influence on the transfers and team had no influence on Mourinho leaving, and that Parry's influence at Liverpool was similar re: Keane?

Because if you ARE saying that, you're a fucking moron.
[/quote]

Whoosh
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095664#msg1095664 date=1272551599]
jose probably didn't want sheva but he didn't exactly make the best use of him when he was there so that still counts as a flop imho.
[/quote]Hahahaha does that mean you count cisse and diouf as rafas flops.
Fucking wise up.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39986.msg1095668#msg1095668 date=1272551702]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095664#msg1095664 date=1272551599]
jose probably didn't want sheva but he didn't exactly make the best use of him when he was there so that still counts as a flop imho.
[/quote]Hahahaha does that mean you count cisse and diouf as rafas flops.
Fucking wise up.
[/quote]

Oncy, I don't know why you continue to bother.

A bit like KrissR.. It's Spider-Neil.. he's here ALL day, EVERY day.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39986.msg1095668#msg1095668 date=1272551702]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095664#msg1095664 date=1272551599]
jose probably didn't want sheva but he didn't exactly make the best use of him when he was there so that still counts as a flop imho.
[/quote]Hahahaha does that mean you count cisse and diouf as rafas flops.
Fucking wise up.
[/quote]

he shipped diouf out before kicking a ball and I don't class cisse a flop though many would.
 
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=39986.msg1095672#msg1095672 date=1272551911]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39986.msg1095668#msg1095668 date=1272551702]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095664#msg1095664 date=1272551599]
jose probably didn't want sheva but he didn't exactly make the best use of him when he was there so that still counts as a flop imho.
[/quote]Hahahaha does that mean you count cisse and diouf as rafas flops.
Fucking wise up.
[/quote]

Oncy, I don't know why you continue to bother.

A bit like KrissR.. It's Spider-Neil.. he's here ALL day, EVERY day.
[/quote]

he bothers because its fun arguing different points, rather than living in a wibbly wobbly world were everyone agrees. that world would be ace.
 
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