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King Jose ....

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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39986.msg1095287#msg1095287 date=1272493660]
3 weeks ago everybody had rubber stamped Barca for the CL again.

The fact they can't win it now should show how f*cking amazing Jose is.

I would cry tears of joy for days if he came here. Sadly it won't happen now as every major club in world football will want him.

If city get him we will find it very hard to get back into the top 4.
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I think we might as it is.
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39986.msg1095287#msg1095287 date=1272493660]
3 weeks ago everybody had rubber stamped Barca for the CL again.

The fact they can't win it now should show how f*cking amazing Jose is.

I would cry tears of joy for days if he came here. Sadly it won't happen now as every major club in world football will want him.

If city get him we will find it very hard to get back into the top 4.
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Every club seem to want him anyway.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=39986.msg1095301#msg1095301 date=1272494300]
Why was Sheik's well made point about loyalty at Valencia ignored?
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Because Rebel doesn't believe in logic and reason, and the TRUTH?
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=39986.msg1095301#msg1095301 date=1272494300]
Why was Sheik's well made point about loyalty at Valencia ignored?
[/quote]Because its Rebel.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=39986.msg1095301#msg1095301 date=1272494300]
Why was Sheik's well made point about loyalty at Valencia ignored?
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Because it shot his argument down in flames. It's something Rebel is very good at, going off on tangents to avoid the question.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=39986.msg1095292#msg1095292 date=1272493755]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39986.msg1095287#msg1095287 date=1272493660]
3 weeks ago everybody had rubber stamped Barca for the CL again.

The fact they can't win it now should show how f*cking amazing Jose is.

I would cry tears of joy for days if he came here. Sadly it won't happen now as every major club in world football will want him.

If city get him we will find it very hard to get back into the top 4.
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I think we might as it is.
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Nah, we have been utter wank this year, have had injuries all season long, most players have been out of form and we sitll could get fourth.

We will get fourth enxt year, but I want 1st not 2nd-4th.
 
[quote author=ILD link=topic=39986.msg1095293#msg1095293 date=1272493857]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39986.msg1095287#msg1095287 date=1272493660]
3 weeks ago everybody had rubber stamped Barca for the CL again.

The fact they can't win it now should show how f*cking amazing Jose is.

I would cry tears of joy for days if he came here. Sadly it won't happen now as every major club in world football will want him.

If city get him we will find it very hard to get back into the top 4.
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Every club seem to want him anyway.
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True, but his recent success will just elevate his asking price.

I'd imagine Madrid will get him.
 
[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=39986.msg1095263#msg1095263 date=1272492279]
Mourinho is a fantastic manager. Utterly fantastic. Inter have been spending a fortune for decades trying to do this but failed until this year. He knocks out Chelsea and Barcelona on the way for God's sake.

There's seriously something wrong with people who don't rate him. Something fundamentally wrong.

I don't have a problem with his style either. He's pompous, cocky, arrogant, antagonistic and impulsive and I want him to manage Liverpool.

Let's not forget that there is no manager in world football who would do more to antagonize Man Utd, Everton and Chelsea fans than him, if he was at Anfield. And frankly, I'd love that.
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Did I tell you that I loved you in the Philharmonic Gene? :-[

regards
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39986.msg1095308#msg1095308 date=1272494955]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=39986.msg1095292#msg1095292 date=1272493755]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=39986.msg1095287#msg1095287 date=1272493660]
3 weeks ago everybody had rubber stamped Barca for the CL again.

The fact they can't win it now should show how f*cking amazing Jose is.

I would cry tears of joy for days if he came here. Sadly it won't happen now as every major club in world football will want him.

If city get him we will find it very hard to get back into the top 4.
[/quote]

I think we might as it is.
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Nah, we have been utter wank this year, have had injuries all season long, most players have been out of form and we sitll could get fourth.

We will get fourth enxt year, but I want 1st not 2nd-4th.
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They'll improve further, though, I can't say the same for us unless we get serious investment. Especially if they get 4th, they could attract major stars and we might never catch them.
 
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[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39986.msg1095215#msg1095215 date=1272490886]
Kriss R = Chris LawleR

All these years he keeps his mouth shut, and when he does speak, it's to tell a lie



regards
[/quote]Thats one of my favourite quotages ever.
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Thank you.... :-[...Oh Shanks , yes


regards
 
Back to the king anyone hear his interview he said the police in barcelona tried to arrest etoo last night something to do wit his taxes but he stopped them and that people were setting off fireworks all night outside their windows ha..he also said they turned on the sprinklers to clean the blood of the inter players off the pitch....LEGEND!!!!
 
Someone (I think LeTallecWiz and probably a few others) noted that Mourinho can only be successful by either acquiring a talented squad or by squandering megabucks...but prior to Porto, he guided Uniao de Leiria to 5th in the league, their highest finish ever, and a place in the UEFA Cup. I just thought i'd chuck that into the mix.
 
Top post by Gene. Mourhino is the ONLY man out there we should be looking at. Whatever it fucking takes, whatever he wants, fucking give it to him.
 
[quote author=Vanbasten84 link=topic=39986.msg1095320#msg1095320 date=1272496051]
Back to the king anyone hear his interview he said the police in barcelona tried to arrest etoo last night something to do wit his taxes but he stopped them and that people were setting off fireworks all night outside their windows ha..he also said they turned on the sprinklers to clean the blood of the inter players off the pitch....LEGEND!!!!
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I wonder how he stopped the Police trying to arrest Eto'o?

Hahaha
 
jose is a fantastic manager, no question about it but

a) when he was at porto there was next to no competition for the league. granted winning the CL was an excellent acheivement, so unless we are just looking to challenge in europe not a fair comparison (portuguese/english league)

b) when he was at chelsea he had an embarrassment of riches and was given a fortune on top of that, yet still could beat rafa in europe. so not a fair comparison unless he given a blank cheque.

c) he is currently at inter has inheirted a fantastic squad and there is a lack of competition in the league but getting to the CL final is a fantastic acheivement.
again not a fair comparison (italian/english league)

liverpool is unlike porto in that the competition is far greater here.
england have had a CL finalist for the past 7 years, that should tell you strength of the english teams. the top manager in the league has 20+ years of experience and the second most experienced manager has 12 years experience.

liverpool is unlike chelsea in that the squad is paper thin unlike the ridiculously strong squad jose inheirited and there would be the blank cheque for players like he was given at chelsea either (unless we are very fortunate with new owners).

liverpool is unlike inter, again italian league has poor competition blah blah yadda yadda
the circumstances of jose success with porto, chelsea and inter are completely different to what he would be facing if he was fucking DAFT enough to come here.
I have no doubt jose (or any manager) would get an initial burst from the squad (as all the players would be playing for their future) its were the new manager takes us with a lack of funds. frankly anyone who thinks that jose could lead us to the league with the current competition and lack of a blank cheque is seriously deluded.

so congrates on the final jose, but if you really want to impress me take a team with a lack of funds, lack of quality and lead them to a league title in a country where the competition is fierce, that will prove you are the best manager out there.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=39986.msg1095209#msg1095209 date=1272490727]
He's a great manager and a born winner, but on the topic of that celebration - I just thought "what an absolute twat".
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I missed the celebration, so can anyone (livvy prolly) stick a vid up of it, please.

Just to remind me of how much I fucking hate him of course.
 
for the record, I couldn't care less about him being a twat, my concern is his taking a limited squad with limited funds and making them challenge in a league where the opposition will have more experience than him, stronger squads than him and bigger wage bills than him.
 
I don't think he'd win the league straight away, but he'd definitely make a better fist of it than Rafa has recently.

It's strange to think how we might have ended up had we hired Jose in 2004. I don't think we'd have won the CL, but we most certainly would be in a better position right now. Maybe a couple of league titles andcups after a couple of years under his stewardship.
 
From the Guardian's MBM commentary of the match:

Post-match analysis: "That was a triumph for Mourinho's style of management," writes Henry Shawdon. "I cant wait to get that quality of shirt-pulling, injury-feigning, time-wasting and transcendental negativity back in the Premiership."
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095355#msg1095355 date=1272500407]
for the record, I couldn't care less about him being a twat, my concern is his taking a limited squad with limited funds and making them challenge in a league where the opposition will have more experience than him, stronger squads than him and bigger wage bills than him.
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He took a nothing club in Portugal to the Uefa cup.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=39986.msg1095358#msg1095358 date=1272500579]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095355#msg1095355 date=1272500407]
for the record, I couldn't care less about him being a twat, my concern is his taking a limited squad with limited funds and making them challenge in a league where the opposition will have more experience than him, stronger squads than him and bigger wage bills than him.
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He took a nothing club in Portugal to the Uefa cup.
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again, are we only after european success?
in portugal the league competition is poor, in england he had a blank cheque and in italy the league competiton is also poor. spain and england have strong leagues a great achievement would be leading a team like liverpool in england or AM in spain \(for example) to the league title. jose is no fool the guy has built an unbelievable rep over the years and he wont fuck that up by coming to liverpool, he has eyes and knows the monumental it would be to take liverpool to the top.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095363#msg1095363 date=1272501061]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=39986.msg1095358#msg1095358 date=1272500579]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095355#msg1095355 date=1272500407]
for the record, I couldn't care less about him being a twat, my concern is his taking a limited squad with limited funds and making them challenge in a league where the opposition will have more experience than him, stronger squads than him and bigger wage bills than him.
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He took a nothing club in Portugal to the Uefa cup.
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again, are we only after european success?
in portugal the league competition is poor, in england he had a blank cheque and in italy the league competiton is also poor. spain and england have strong leagues a great achievement would be leading a team like liverpool in england or AM in spain \(for example) to the league title. jose is no fool the guy has built an unbelievable rep over the years and he wont fuck that up by coming to liverpool, he has eyes and knows the monumental it would be to take liverpool to the top.
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No, some Portuguese team I don't even know the name of. He got them into the UEFA cup with their highest finish ever. Shows he has the credentials and diversity to take a team and make them successful without money.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39986.msg1095357#msg1095357 date=1272500569]
From the Guardian's MBM commentary of the match:

Post-match analysis: "That was a triumph for Mourinho's style of management," writes Henry Shawdon. "I cant wait to get that quality of shirt-pulling, injury-feigning, time-wasting and transcendental negativity back in the Premiership."
[/quote]Thats some utter biased sensational bullshit right there. At home Inter were magic on the break, and away they were faced by one of the most biased refs I'd ever seen. They committed 15 fouls and got 5 yellow cards and a red, mostly because the Barcelona players dived, playacted and basically cheated at every single opportunity. Inter had a player sent off for next to nothing and then had to resort to sitting deep and soaking up pressure from the best team in the world.

I wonder how come you of all people, one of the most tactically obsessed people I know aren't in awe of a really impressive reargaurd action.
I wanted Barcelona to win but I'm in no doubt that Inter deserved it over the two legs, last night they played 10 against 14 (the officials were unbelievably biased) and by the end I was glad they won.
Glad he won.
That article is bollocks.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39986.msg1095378#msg1095378 date=1272507060]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39986.msg1095357#msg1095357 date=1272500569]
From the Guardian's MBM commentary of the match:

Post-match analysis: "That was a triumph for Mourinho's style of management," writes Henry Shawdon. "I cant wait to get that quality of shirt-pulling, injury-feigning, time-wasting and transcendental negativity back in the Premiership."
[/quote]Thats some utter biased sensational bullshit right there. At home Inter were magic on the break, and away they were faced by one of the most biased refs I'd ever seen. They committed 15 fouls and got 5 yellow cards and a red, mostly because the Barcelona players dived, playacted and basically cheated at every single opportunity. Inter had a player sent off for next to nothing and then had to resort to sitting deep and soaking up pressure from the best team in the world.

I wonder how come you of all people, one of the most tactically obsessed people I know aren't in awe of a really impressive reargaurd action.
I wanted Barcelona to win but I'm in no doubt that Inter deserved it over the two legs, last night they played 10 against 14 (the officials were unbelievably biased) and by the end I was glad they won.
Glad he won.
That article is bollocks.
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Heh mate, I thought it was funny is all.

As for Inter's tactics; well you're preaching to the converted here mate. They were outstanding, and I banged on at length about their defensive solidity after the game at Stamford Bridge. I couldn't have been more impressed.

Unfortunately for Mourinho (not that I care), a lot of his tatcical ingenuity over these two legs will be lost under a maelstrom of "parked the bus and held on" comments, when it was anything but.

They were superb, and he rightly deserves the adulation.

Not that he needs any of course.
 
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[quote author=krissr link=topic=39986.msg1095108#msg1095108 date=1272487672]
It's easy to be a winner with the team he has
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Yeah. He had MASSIVE resources when he won the CL with Porto, clearly.
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People harp on this one great run as a 'stamp' of his greatness. Let him win the league in England/Italy/Spain with a team that isn't a) the best team in the country when he takes over (Inter) or b) the richest team history has known at the time with a fantastic squad already ready for him (Chelsea). I'd still have him as our manager EVERY DAY of the week but the way some people go on about Porto (a team that also had some fucking brilliant players), you'd think he was the second coming of Shanks.
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Half right. Pre-requisites to get Mourinho to Anfield. 1. Be current champions. 2. have wads of cash to give him. 3. Give up all pretensions of being a classy club.
 
[quote author=irishred link=topic=39986.msg1095321#msg1095321 date=1272496127]
Someone (I think LeTallecWiz and probably a few others) noted that Mourinho can only be successful by either acquiring a talented squad or by squandering megabucks...but prior to Porto, he guided Uniao de Leiria to 5th in the league, their highest finish ever, and a place in the UEFA Cup. I just thought i'd chuck that into the mix.
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WOW! And he won the league when? Porto? A three team league with players like Caravhlo, Benni, Paolo Ferriera etc ... Chelsea finished 2nd and just added (Ranieri signed) Cech and Robben. Inter were the best team in Inter without a shadow of a doubt. He's a great manager, because you don't win leagues on paper. But I do NOT think he can be ranked along the likes of Fergie or Shanks or other great managers. Sorry, there's greatness and then there's the tier just below.

Btw Oncey - your point re: selling Zlatan to purchase Milito/Pandev is extremely mislead. A) He would have never sold Zlatan if he didn't get Eto'o in return. It was a deal any manager in the world makes and Barca probably regret making B) Pandev was signed for FREE after he was released from his contract by Lazio by some legal stipulation. You may now proceed.
 
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