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You may have been asked this before Ryan but who would you have to manage us?

And don't say Rafa.
 
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=39986.msg1095403#msg1095403 date=1272519858]
You may have been asked this before Ryan but who would you have to manage us?

And don't say Rafa.
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I have been asked it before, and I don't think I gave an answer people were after then either.

I don't want Rafa sacked so it's hard to think of possible replacements.

I really don't know. Capello maybe?
 
Does everyone else think Motta didn't deserve to get sent off?

I thought he left the ref no choice. He had already been booked anyways and much as Babel found out, you can't raise your hands like that.

As for the officials performance in general, they weren't great, but they weren't that biased... I mean, they disallowed that goal at the end, which to me looked perfectly valid.
 
[quote author=keniget link=topic=39986.msg1095405#msg1095405 date=1272520690]
Does everyone else think Motta didn't deserve to get sent off?

I thought he left the ref no choice. He had already been booked anyways and much as Babel found out, you can't raise your hands like that.

As for the officials performance in general, they weren't great, but they weren't that biased... I mean, they disallowed that goal at the end, which to me looked perfectly valid.
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the hand in the face was a yellow card and had he been shown a yellow card he would still be off.

the disallowed goal was harsh as no way could the barca player get out of the way
 
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39986.msg1095144#msg1095144 date=1272488291]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=39986.msg1095128#msg1095128 date=1272488004]
So you'd rather keep a manager who has spent shitloads, krissr, and has managed to take a team that had potential to win the league and guide them to 7th, as well as progressing almost nowhere in 6 years? All instead of the best manager on the planet, regardless of funds?

I don't care how much of a cunt he is, he would win things with us.
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Mourinho has just guided his a team to his 2nd champions league final like Rafa, but the big diffirence is, Mourinho has been allowed to buy his 1st choice players, Rafa hasn't, Tevez, Villa, Sylva, Alves players who Rafa wanted but couldn't afford
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That is the stupidest thing i have ever heard!! Ask any manager in the world.. im sure they would all want tevez, villa, silva, alves etc in their team...but couldnt afford them. Im sure roy hodgeson would want them in his team but he couldnt afford them either.

Its what you do with the resources you have that makes you a good manager..
 
a manager guiding a team to a CL glory shouldn't be a barometer of whether he should recruit him (after all rafa got liverpool to CL finals in 3 years). with our money problems and depth of squad it would be more sensible to hire a manager able to break up monopolies at the top of a 'strong' league with modest recources (kinda like rafa did with valencia).
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095414#msg1095414 date=1272522327]
a manager guiding a team to a CL glory shouldn't be a barometer of whether he should recruit him (after all rafa got liverpool to CL finals in 3 years). with our money problems and depth of squad it would be more sensible to hire a manager able to break up monopolies at the top of a 'strong' league with modest recources (kinda like rafa did with valencia).


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You want Harry Redknapp don't you Spidey?
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39986.msg1095415#msg1095415 date=1272522728]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095414#msg1095414 date=1272522327]
a manager guiding a team to a CL glory shouldn't be a barometer of whether he should recruit him (after all rafa got liverpool to CL finals in 3 years). with our money problems and depth of squad it would be more sensible to hire a manager able to break up monopolies at the top of a 'strong' league with modest recources (kinda like rafa did with valencia).


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You want Harry Redknapp don't you Spidey?
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I was thinking moyes 😉
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=39986.msg1095193#msg1095193 date=1272490065]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=39986.msg1095191#msg1095191 date=1272489891]
Mourinho is an outstanding manager for getting to another CL final but Rafa is a lucky chancer who isnt worthy of being Liverpool manager

let me tell you he's just as good as Mourinho and even better in Europe as the record proves whenever they've met and with vastly inferior sides

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Liverpool booked their place in the Champions League final with a dramatic penalty shoot-out win in the semi-final second leg at Anfield.

Dirk Kuyt scored the crucial spot-kick to clinch a 4-1 win after Arjen Robben and Geremi had missed for the Blues.

Daniel Agger cancelled out Chelsea's first-leg lead in the first half with a crisp finish from Steven Gerrard's superbly disguised left-wing free-kick.

Kuyt also rattled the bar with a fine header after the break.

Chelsea's best chance saw Didier Droga denied by Pepe Reina and the big striker was also inches away from turning in Ashley Cole's cross after the break.

But Liverpool were good value for their win in a game that had plenty of excitement but lacked real quality.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6603039.stm
[/quote]Is it worth me pointing out to you that since we won the champions league under Rafa, Jose has won 3 league titles in 2 countries and 4 Domestic cups. He also took a year out of the game and is about 3 games away from winning the league and European cup double AGAIN.
Yeah. Theyre almost identical but Rafa is a teensy bit better.
JEB
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wow.. totally owned
 
[quote author=Vanbasten84 link=topic=39986.msg1095320#msg1095320 date=1272496051]
Back to the king anyone hear his interview he said the police in barcelona tried to arrest etoo last night something to do wit his taxes but he stopped them and that people were setting off fireworks all night outside their windows ha..he also said they turned on the sprinklers to clean the blood of the inter players off the pitch....LEGEND!!!!
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Disgraceful by Barca and its fans
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095414#msg1095414 date=1272522327]
a manager guiding a team to a CL glory shouldn't be a barometer of whether he should recruit him (after all rafa got liverpool to CL finals in 3 years). with our money problems and depth of squad it would be more sensible to hire a manager able to break up monopolies at the top of a 'strong' league with modest recources (kinda like rafa did with valencia).


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I reck you're just being facetious now. Jose love ain't just about the last 4 months of work, it's about the last 7 years.
 
Mourinho is the best manager in the world and today he prooved it.
He got his tactics spot on and with a man down for 65minutes at the Nou Camp against barcelona is an amazing achievement!!
That is how you defend, the whole team was in sync and put their heart and soul into every minute of that game.
The man is full of passion and you could see it after the game when he celebrated. That is what you want from a manager, not someone who shows no emotion at all.
The team that went on the pitch is mourinho's team, he made it, he didnt inherit it.
(millito, motta, lucio, eto'o, sniejder, pandev(injured), muntari) these are his players he bought in. that is quality.
Mourinho goes for quality not quantity unlike our manager benitez.
Point is Mourinho is unbelievable, so was inter tonight... and i dream on having mourinho as our manager
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39986.msg1095428#msg1095428 date=1272524032]
All this is discussion is moo anyway, Jose is going to Madrid.
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why moo?
All this is discussion is bark anyway
All this is discussion is quack anyway
All this is discussion is meow anyway
there are lots of choices, you could have gone with a better animal noise 🙂
 
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=39986.msg1095430#msg1095430 date=1272524122]
Mourinho is the best manager in the world and today he prooved it.
He got his tactics spot on and with a man down for 65minutes at the Nou Camp against barcelona is an amazing achievement!!
That is how you defend, the whole team was in sync and put their heart and soul into every minute of that game.
The man is full of passion and you could see it after the game when he celebrated. That is what you want from a manager, not someone who shows no emotion at all.
The team that went on the pitch is mourinho's team, he made it, he didnt inherit it.
(millito, motta, lucio, eto'o, sniejder, pandev(injured), muntari) these are his players he bought in. that is quality.
Mourinho goes for quality not quantity unlike our manager benitez.
Point is Mourinho is unbelievable, so was inter tonight... and i dream on having mourinho as our manager
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every manager would have gone for eto'o in a swap for ibra and sniejder was deemed surplus so I suspect for a fraction of his worth. so how would he bring in similar quality with a restricted budget if he came here?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095435#msg1095435 date=1272524475]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39986.msg1095428#msg1095428 date=1272524032]
All this is discussion is moo anyway, Jose is going to Madrid.
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why moo?
All this is discussion is bark anyway
All this is discussion is quack anyway
All this is discussion is meow anyway
there are lots of choices, you could have gone with a better animal noise 🙂
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see Joey ala Friends. It's moo.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095435#msg1095435 date=1272524475]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39986.msg1095428#msg1095428 date=1272524032]
All this is discussion is moo anyway, Jose is going to Madrid.
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why moo?
All this is discussion is barkt anyway
All this is discussion is quackt anyway
All this is discussion is meowt anyway
there are lots of choices, you could have gone with a better animal noise 🙂
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[quote author=Pesam link=topic=39986.msg1095462#msg1095462 date=1272526460]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095435#msg1095435 date=1272524475]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39986.msg1095428#msg1095428 date=1272524032]
All this is discussion is moo anyway, Jose is going to Madrid.
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why moo?
All this is discussion is barkt anyway
All this is discussion is quackt anyway
All this is discussion is meowt anyway
there are lots of choices, you could have gone with a better animal noise 🙂
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I know he meant moot, I was only messing 🙂
 
You can all fawn over Jose all you like, but the fact is he's highly unlikely to be our next manager.

Take Jose and Capello out of the equation and we're left with replacement options that will be either a huge gamble, or an inferior manager.
 
[quote author=krissr link=topic=39986.msg1095094#msg1095094 date=1272487466]
I don't want him anywere near our team, no manager with respect acts the way he does, excellent he may be, but i would rather have a manager with dignity and respect than him
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resepct is one thing but i do get pissed off when Rafa never celebrates or fucking smiles when we score or win. The worst most hilarious example has to be when Crouch scored the 8th goal against Besiktas and Rafa reacted with his hand gesture of keep it tight, fuck me 8-0 up with 5 minutes left - SMILE !!!

I would love Jose at ours, he is easy to hate when he is someone elses manager but loved when he is yours
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=39986.msg1095400#msg1095400 date=1272517171]
[quote author=irishred link=topic=39986.msg1095321#msg1095321 date=1272496127]
Someone (I think LeTallecWiz and probably a few others) noted that Mourinho can only be successful by either acquiring a talented squad or by squandering megabucks...but prior to Porto, he guided Uniao de Leiria to 5th in the league, their highest finish ever, and a place in the UEFA Cup. I just thought i'd chuck that into the mix.
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WOW! And he won the league when? Porto? A three team league with players like Caravhlo, Benni, Paolo Ferriera etc ... Chelsea finished 2nd and just added (Ranieri signed) Cech and Robben. Inter were the best team in Inter without a shadow of a doubt. He's a great manager, because you don't win leagues on paper. But I do NOT think he can be ranked along the likes of Fergie or Shanks or other great managers. Sorry, there's greatness and then there's the tier just below.

Btw Oncey - your point re: selling Zlatan to purchase Milito/Pandev is extremely mislead. A) He would have never sold Zlatan if he didn't get Eto'o in return. It was a deal any manager in the world makes and Barca probably regret making B) Pandev was signed for FREE after he was released from his contract by Lazio by some legal stipulation. You may now proceed.
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He sold Zlatan and got the Eto'o in return. From the balance he bought Sneijder, Milito and Lucio?? No?

If so that's the deal of the century. Eto'o, Milito, Sneijder and Lucio for Zlatan.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39986.msg1095489#msg1095489 date=1272531738]
Do you think if we get wads of cash that might change old chum?

regards
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yes, as he has said he admires liverpool in the past.
getting money is the only way I would get excitied about jose because I think the circumstances of his league win in england is night and day different from the situation that would be presented to him if he joined liverpool with with the current owners and you all know it. a similar circumstance for jose would be him taking over at man city, deep squad/blank check.

stop bringing up his league acheivements in portugual the competition there is non existant.
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39986.msg1095504#msg1095504 date=1272534108]
Spider,

Who would you trust more with 50m.


Benitez or Jose?
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Wenger.

But I don't think that's even the right question.
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39986.msg1095489#msg1095489 date=1272531738]
Do you think if we get wads of cash that might change old chum?

regards
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Well it would increase are chances dramatically mate.

Do you think that is likely to happen though Vlad (of course personally i hope it does)?
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39986.msg1095504#msg1095504 date=1272534108]
Spider,

Who would you trust more with 50m.


Benitez or Jose?
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rafa has bought = alonso, torres, pepe - pure quality

jose has bought = drogba, essien, carvalho - pure quality

I rate their eye for talent as roughly the same
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095515#msg1095515 date=1272534736]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39986.msg1095504#msg1095504 date=1272534108]
Spider,

Who would you trust more with 50m.


Benitez or Jose?
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rafa has bought = alonso, torres, pepe - pure quality

jose has bought = drogba, essien, carvalho - pure quality

I rate their eye for talent as roughly the same
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Nice dodge Spider.


Choose one.
 
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095515#msg1095515 date=1272534736]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39986.msg1095504#msg1095504 date=1272534108]
Spider,

Who would you trust more with 50m.


Benitez or Jose?
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rafa has bought = alonso, torres, pepe - pure quality

jose has bought = drogba, essien, carvalho - pure quality

I rate their eye for talent as roughly the same
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Nice dodge Spider.


Choose one.
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rafa. I think his signings in the 13-20 million pound range is better than jose'
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39986.msg1095515#msg1095515 date=1272534736]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39986.msg1095504#msg1095504 date=1272534108]
Spider,

Who would you trust more with 50m.


Benitez or Jose?
[/quote]

rafa has bought = alonso, torres, pepe, Mascher - pure quality

jose has bought = drogba, essien, carvalho - pure quality

I rate their eye for talent as roughly the same
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