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Kai Havertz wunderkind

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How did you come to the judgement that Mbappe and Sancho can’t improve? That’s insane.

Well for a start they are both excellent already so there isnt that much room for improvement, secondly they are players that rely heavily on blistering pace, that tends not to be something that improves as a player gets older, finally they play in a position where players tend to peak earlier. Its not that the cant or wont get better, its that Id expect them to be much closer to the finished article, Havertz is probably still a couple of seasons away from his peak.
 
Well for a start they are both excellent already so there isnt that much room for improvement, secondly they are players that rely heavily on blistering pace, that tends not to be something that improves as a player gets older, finally they play in a position where players tend to peak earlier. Its not that the cant or wont get better, its that Id expect them to be much closer to the finished article, Havertz is probably still a couple of seasons away from his peak.
Sancho will improve like hell with his goal tally. He got 12 last season I think.
With Mbappe the sky’s the limit.
 
And one’s a teenager, the other’s 20.
It’s insane to say they’re pretty much at their peak. They may rely on their pace (which under normal circumstances would increase into their mid twenties, unless they get broken like Owen) but they’re highly skillful.
 
Reminds me of Ross’s dismissal of Messi 5 or 6 years ago. He was finished because he no longer took steroids or something. The following season he scored 50.
 
We can't really compete for money-wise with the big big clubs...but our profile has never been higher recent years wise. We have the European cup, just won the Supercup and may win the world club cup in december. VVD beats Messi and Ronaldo to win best euro player and other players are in the euro team of the year. All this before talking about the pull of Klopp and a potential new deal with Nike which would increase our buying power. If we can win the PL and/or CL again then our profile continues to rise. so why not dream big with players like Sancho and Havertz? As I said earlier Athletico Madrid persuaded that wunderkind to go to them for 100m+ so dont see why we cant do the same...

Financially we are in a healthy state but the Nike deal could be crucial it gives us that extra bit of dough to be able to say, let go for it! Lets go and get that guy for 100m+. However, if I had my way would give Klopp 100m instead.


PS - So far looks like Havertz having a frustrating game against Dortmund 3-0 Leverkusen
 
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Saying that sancho and mbappe have peaked at such a young age, after such immense and repaid improvement, is nuts
 


[article]Bayer Leverkusen midfielder Kai Havertz's versatility makes the German youngster a force to reckon with and Juventus manager Maurizio Sarri believes the 20-year-old could become a European star in the future.

Havertz has been instrumental in Leverkusen's bright start to the Bundesliga campaign, with his two goals and an assist helping them to stand only one point behind leaders Bayern Munich after six games.

His ability to play either as a winger or an attacking midfielder in various formations has caught Sarri's eye and the Italian said he was impressed with Havertz's technical skills ahead of Tuesday's Champions League clash in Turin.

"He is a player who combines excellent physical qualities with great technical skills," Sarri told reporters on Monday. "At the moment they are using him mainly as an attacking midfielder behind the central forward or as a winger.

"I think he is a complete player that could also play as a midfielder. He is a player born in 1999... with those qualities and with that personality it makes you think it is certain he will become... one of the most important players in Europe."

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He may have lots of talent but it’s hard to judge when the German league is at its weakest in years. We have been linked to a lot of German players who have been overhyped and done nothing, like that Leon goreexa (sp)


Dortmund getting spanked by spurs while ripping it up in Germany is an example
 
He may have lots of talent but it’s hard to judge when the German league is at its weakest in years. We have been linked to a lot of German players who have been overhyped and done nothing, like that Leon goreexa (sp)

Dortmund getting spanked by spurs while ripping it up in Germany is an example


Spurs are playing Bayern tonight, which will be interesting to see.
 
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