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Ibrahimovic - Where To ?
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[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=41577.msg1161852#msg1161852 date=1282737040]
He's so overrated, it's untrue. He's a good player, but he's nowhere near one of the best players in the world as some would have you believe. I can probably think of around 10+ strikers who are better than him.
Spion hit the nail on the head in this thread.
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Jesus Christ.
He's been all over Europe to the biggest clubs with big price tags hanging over his head.
He's banged in goals everywhere he is gone and his only downside is that he is arrogant.
F*ck me our squad needs that right now.
Name 10 strikers who have succeeded as he has at so many big clubs in different countries.
He takes no time to adjust. To say he is overrated is utter rubbish and just shows you don't watch football outside of England.
He's so overrated, it's untrue. He's a good player, but he's nowhere near one of the best players in the world as some would have you believe. I can probably think of around 10+ strikers who are better than him.
Spion hit the nail on the head in this thread.
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Jesus Christ.
He's been all over Europe to the biggest clubs with big price tags hanging over his head.
He's banged in goals everywhere he is gone and his only downside is that he is arrogant.
F*ck me our squad needs that right now.
Name 10 strikers who have succeeded as he has at so many big clubs in different countries.
He takes no time to adjust. To say he is overrated is utter rubbish and just shows you don't watch football outside of England.
[quote author=Stulikesdrums link=topic=41577.msg1162059#msg1162059 date=1282748787]
Is it true that Zlatan has never failed to win a league title?
I heard/read that he has won the league with every club he has ever played in every season he has played. Surely that is bollocks?!?
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It's true. Unreal really.
But sure he's overrated right!
Is it true that Zlatan has never failed to win a league title?
I heard/read that he has won the league with every club he has ever played in every season he has played. Surely that is bollocks?!?
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It's true. Unreal really.
But sure he's overrated right!
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41577.msg1162442#msg1162442 date=1282811795]
His stats for Juve were also incredible might I add, 23 goals in 69 games. Definitely 'key' to them winning the league. And considering how many 'great' goalscoring #s we see in Holland, the 35 in 74 doesn't really impress that much considering he was playing for the best team at the time.
Its funny how you mention his ajax days and juventus days but dont want to show that in italy he was top goal scorer in 2009 and had a record of 57 Goals in 88 Games
Eto'o - led his team to the world cup (Cameroon has a stronger footballing team than Sweden? really?) They both arent that great and europe qualifying is much harder than the africans qualifying.
Torres - won world cup didnt contribute anything to the team, but he is the BEST STRIKER in the world and i love him
Drogba - led his team to the world cup (Ivory Coast has a stronger footballing team than Sweden? really?) Yes, the ivory coast team has a better squad than sweden. Drogba is better than ibra, i agree
Rooney - led his team to the world cup Did shit all, might aswell not have shown up to the world cup, wouldv made no difference. England had an easy qualifying group. But yes i also agree rooney is better
Van Persie - led his team to the world cup final He did pretty much fuck all
Villa - led his team to the world cup I agree with villa being better
Tevez - led his team to the world cup Like i mentioned, tevez is more of a behind the striker type player, he isnt an out and out striker
Higuain - led his team to the world cupI also agree higuain is better
Aguero - led his team to the world cupHardly even played in the world cup
So considering Sweden is NOT a bad team and HAS had good runs in int'l tournaments, surely a player of Zlatan's greatness could take them to some major tourney. His int'l stats (23 in 63) are nothing to write home about either.
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Ok lets see how they all go in internationals..
Van Persie - 51 (19)
Aguero - 24 ( 8 )
Tevez - 56 (11)
Rooney - 65 (25)
Torres - 80 (24)
Villa - 65 (43)
Drogba - 71 (45)
Higuain - 10 (6)
Messi - 50 (13)
So what is your point? Besides Villa, Drogba and higuain his goalscoring in internationals isnt as bad as you think 😉
His stats for Juve were also incredible might I add, 23 goals in 69 games. Definitely 'key' to them winning the league. And considering how many 'great' goalscoring #s we see in Holland, the 35 in 74 doesn't really impress that much considering he was playing for the best team at the time.
Its funny how you mention his ajax days and juventus days but dont want to show that in italy he was top goal scorer in 2009 and had a record of 57 Goals in 88 Games
Eto'o - led his team to the world cup (Cameroon has a stronger footballing team than Sweden? really?) They both arent that great and europe qualifying is much harder than the africans qualifying.
Torres - won world cup didnt contribute anything to the team, but he is the BEST STRIKER in the world and i love him
Drogba - led his team to the world cup (Ivory Coast has a stronger footballing team than Sweden? really?) Yes, the ivory coast team has a better squad than sweden. Drogba is better than ibra, i agree
Rooney - led his team to the world cup Did shit all, might aswell not have shown up to the world cup, wouldv made no difference. England had an easy qualifying group. But yes i also agree rooney is better
Van Persie - led his team to the world cup final He did pretty much fuck all
Villa - led his team to the world cup I agree with villa being better
Tevez - led his team to the world cup Like i mentioned, tevez is more of a behind the striker type player, he isnt an out and out striker
Higuain - led his team to the world cupI also agree higuain is better
Aguero - led his team to the world cupHardly even played in the world cup
So considering Sweden is NOT a bad team and HAS had good runs in int'l tournaments, surely a player of Zlatan's greatness could take them to some major tourney. His int'l stats (23 in 63) are nothing to write home about either.
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Ok lets see how they all go in internationals..
Van Persie - 51 (19)
Aguero - 24 ( 8 )
Tevez - 56 (11)
Rooney - 65 (25)
Torres - 80 (24)
Villa - 65 (43)
Drogba - 71 (45)
Higuain - 10 (6)
Messi - 50 (13)
So what is your point? Besides Villa, Drogba and higuain his goalscoring in internationals isnt as bad as you think 😉
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[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41577.msg1162442#msg1162442 date=1282811795]
So considering Sweden is NOT a bad team and HAS had good runs in int'l tournaments, surely a player of Zlatan's greatness could take them to some major tourney. His int'l stats (23 in 63) are nothing to write home about either.
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Yes, especially compared to Ryan Giggs, the greatest player of all time, and he's led Wales to a World Cup semi-final. [/quote]
You're not seriously comparing Wales to Sweden, are you?
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41577.msg1162442#msg1162442 date=1282811795]
So considering Sweden is NOT a bad team and HAS had good runs in int'l tournaments, surely a player of Zlatan's greatness could take them to some major tourney. His int'l stats (23 in 63) are nothing to write home about either.
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Yes, especially compared to Ryan Giggs, the greatest player of all time, and he's led Wales to a World Cup semi-final. [/quote]
You're not seriously comparing Wales to Sweden, are you?
"Its funny how you mention his ajax days and juventus days but dont want to show that in italy he was top goal scorer in 2009 and had a record of 57 Goals in 88 Games"
You mean Inter and Barca? Wait, he was almost outscored by Pedro at Barca and was frozen out because he's prick and Pep hates him (Unless talking twice in the past 6 months to a player is 'regular').
At Inter he was fantastic in the league against the non-contending teams, but it's rather telling how when they had the aforementioned Diego Maradona ... Uuuuh ... I mean Diego Milito, they actually became a European force. Let's look at it like this, who has scored more goals in the UCL knock out stages: Zlatan in his ENTIRE career or Diego Milito last year? Says enough about what kind of player he is ... When the going gets tough (albeit he did score the winner against Madrid last year) in the league (i.e. top 3 opposition) or in knock out stages, Zlatan doesn't show up ... He'll always win 'leagues' because he plays for the best teams but if you want to win a game against a tough team or in a 'do or die' game, Zlatan is not your man ...
You mean Inter and Barca? Wait, he was almost outscored by Pedro at Barca and was frozen out because he's prick and Pep hates him (Unless talking twice in the past 6 months to a player is 'regular').
At Inter he was fantastic in the league against the non-contending teams, but it's rather telling how when they had the aforementioned Diego Maradona ... Uuuuh ... I mean Diego Milito, they actually became a European force. Let's look at it like this, who has scored more goals in the UCL knock out stages: Zlatan in his ENTIRE career or Diego Milito last year? Says enough about what kind of player he is ... When the going gets tough (albeit he did score the winner against Madrid last year) in the league (i.e. top 3 opposition) or in knock out stages, Zlatan doesn't show up ... He'll always win 'leagues' because he plays for the best teams but if you want to win a game against a tough team or in a 'do or die' game, Zlatan is not your man ...
Milito only became a prolific goalscorer in the last 2 years. Dont compare the two as one has been sucessful his whole career, the other sucessful just last season.
It doesnt matter who he scores against, point is he scores goals, and helps his team win games. In the end the win is all that matters.
As for him signing for teams that win their league..
Ajax last won the erdevise in 97/98.. Zlatan signed and they won the 2001/02.. 03/04
Juventus last won the serie a in 02/03.. Zlatan signed and they won the 04/05.. 05/06
Inter had last won the serie a in 88/89.. Zlatan signed and they won 06/07.. 07/08.. 08/09
Barca last won la liga in 08/09.. Zlatan signed they continued to win and won the 09/10 season
Only team he walked in to that was winning, was Barcelona. So this bullshit of he only plays for teams that are winning their leagues is utter shit.
Its not his fault he plays for the best teams in europe, maybe its because he is good and obviously they rate him. But i guess some people on the SCM site who havent watched him throughout his career are better to judge..
It doesnt matter who he scores against, point is he scores goals, and helps his team win games. In the end the win is all that matters.
As for him signing for teams that win their league..
Ajax last won the erdevise in 97/98.. Zlatan signed and they won the 2001/02.. 03/04
Juventus last won the serie a in 02/03.. Zlatan signed and they won the 04/05.. 05/06
Inter had last won the serie a in 88/89.. Zlatan signed and they won 06/07.. 07/08.. 08/09
Barca last won la liga in 08/09.. Zlatan signed they continued to win and won the 09/10 season
Only team he walked in to that was winning, was Barcelona. So this bullshit of he only plays for teams that are winning their leagues is utter shit.
Its not his fault he plays for the best teams in europe, maybe its because he is good and obviously they rate him. But i guess some people on the SCM site who havent watched him throughout his career are better to judge..
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41577.msg1163342#msg1163342 date=1282885357]
Milito only became a prolific goalscorer in the last 2 years. Dont compare the two as one has been sucessful his whole career, the other sucessful just last season.[/quote]
Wait, so if Zlatan was prolific his WHOLE career and was playing in the premier European tournament his WHOLE career, how does Milito outscore him in knockout stages?
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41577.msg1163342#msg1163342 date=1282885357]It doesnt matter who he scores against, point is he scores goals, and helps his team win games.[/quote]
Goals are goals yes. But if you want to be amongst the BEST, you have to score against the best. Notice, no one bothers Ronaldo about this anymore because he started scoring against the best teams regularly. If Zlatan can only do it against the dross, then he really can't be considered amongst the best.
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41577.msg1163342#msg1163342 date=1282885357]Ajax last won the erdevise in 97/98.. Zlatan signed and they won the 2001/02.. 03/04
Juventus last won the serie a in 02/03.. Zlatan signed and they won the 04/05.. 05/06
Inter had last won the serie a in 88/89.. Zlatan signed and they won 06/07.. 07/08.. 08/09
Barca last won la liga in 08/09.. Zlatan signed they continued to win and won the 09/10 season[/quote]
Juventus won 2001/02 and 2002/03. Again, an excellent team
Inter won the scudetto in 2005–06, and were runner ups in 02/03. They were already an excellent team.
And with Barca. Zlatan came to the best team in the world. How did he do? Was he as good as Eto'o? Were barca as dominating? Was he even starting when the season on the line? Was Pep preferring 'no names' like Pedro and Bojan to him? What does that tell you?
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41577.msg1163342#msg1163342 date=1282885357]Only team he walked in to that was winning, was Barcelona. So this bullshit of he only plays for teams that are winning their leagues is utter shit.[/quote]
He walked onto teams that either had just won the league (Barca & Inter) or were a year off winning the league twice in a row (Juve). If he goes to Milan, we'll see how 'good' he really is. A team that signed nobody (Yepes & Boateng) and will struggle to win anything. See if he's really capable of leading a team.
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41577.msg1163342#msg1163342 date=1282885357]Its not his fault all the good teams in europe are after him, obviously they rate him. But i guess some people on the SCM site who havent watched him throughout his career are better to judge..[/quote]
Let's get this straight. Great players consistently score a lot of goals, and when it matters most. Zlatan only ticks one of those boxes. So he's below the level of the players who've been mentioned. If he ticks the other box, he'll rightfully have earned his right to be considered amongst the best of his era.
Milito only became a prolific goalscorer in the last 2 years. Dont compare the two as one has been sucessful his whole career, the other sucessful just last season.[/quote]
Wait, so if Zlatan was prolific his WHOLE career and was playing in the premier European tournament his WHOLE career, how does Milito outscore him in knockout stages?
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41577.msg1163342#msg1163342 date=1282885357]It doesnt matter who he scores against, point is he scores goals, and helps his team win games.[/quote]
Goals are goals yes. But if you want to be amongst the BEST, you have to score against the best. Notice, no one bothers Ronaldo about this anymore because he started scoring against the best teams regularly. If Zlatan can only do it against the dross, then he really can't be considered amongst the best.
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41577.msg1163342#msg1163342 date=1282885357]Ajax last won the erdevise in 97/98.. Zlatan signed and they won the 2001/02.. 03/04
Juventus last won the serie a in 02/03.. Zlatan signed and they won the 04/05.. 05/06
Inter had last won the serie a in 88/89.. Zlatan signed and they won 06/07.. 07/08.. 08/09
Barca last won la liga in 08/09.. Zlatan signed they continued to win and won the 09/10 season[/quote]
Juventus won 2001/02 and 2002/03. Again, an excellent team
Inter won the scudetto in 2005–06, and were runner ups in 02/03. They were already an excellent team.
And with Barca. Zlatan came to the best team in the world. How did he do? Was he as good as Eto'o? Were barca as dominating? Was he even starting when the season on the line? Was Pep preferring 'no names' like Pedro and Bojan to him? What does that tell you?
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41577.msg1163342#msg1163342 date=1282885357]Only team he walked in to that was winning, was Barcelona. So this bullshit of he only plays for teams that are winning their leagues is utter shit.[/quote]
He walked onto teams that either had just won the league (Barca & Inter) or were a year off winning the league twice in a row (Juve). If he goes to Milan, we'll see how 'good' he really is. A team that signed nobody (Yepes & Boateng) and will struggle to win anything. See if he's really capable of leading a team.
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=41577.msg1163342#msg1163342 date=1282885357]Its not his fault all the good teams in europe are after him, obviously they rate him. But i guess some people on the SCM site who havent watched him throughout his career are better to judge..[/quote]
Let's get this straight. Great players consistently score a lot of goals, and when it matters most. Zlatan only ticks one of those boxes. So he's below the level of the players who've been mentioned. If he ticks the other box, he'll rightfully have earned his right to be considered amongst the best of his era.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41577.msg1163338#msg1163338 date=1282883265]
[quote author=darkstarexodus link=topic=41577.msg1163302#msg1163302 date=1282868560]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41577.msg1162442#msg1162442 date=1282811795]
So considering Sweden is NOT a bad team and HAS had good runs in int'l tournaments, surely a player of Zlatan's greatness could take them to some major tourney. His int'l stats (23 in 63) are nothing to write home about either.
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Yes, especially compared to Ryan Giggs, the greatest player of all time, and he's led Wales to a World Cup semi-final. [/quote]
You're not seriously comparing Wales to Sweden, are you?
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Not really, no. But I do think it's a pretty weak argument. Keeping it to club football and his scoring record in the Champions League knockout stages is your best bet here. Considering you're usually not very dogmatic, you have always come across as having a vendetta against Ibra. Just a little curious why I guess.
[quote author=darkstarexodus link=topic=41577.msg1163302#msg1163302 date=1282868560]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41577.msg1162442#msg1162442 date=1282811795]
So considering Sweden is NOT a bad team and HAS had good runs in int'l tournaments, surely a player of Zlatan's greatness could take them to some major tourney. His int'l stats (23 in 63) are nothing to write home about either.
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Yes, especially compared to Ryan Giggs, the greatest player of all time, and he's led Wales to a World Cup semi-final. [/quote]
You're not seriously comparing Wales to Sweden, are you?
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Not really, no. But I do think it's a pretty weak argument. Keeping it to club football and his scoring record in the Champions League knockout stages is your best bet here. Considering you're usually not very dogmatic, you have always come across as having a vendetta against Ibra. Just a little curious why I guess.
jesus, some of the negative comments zlatan attracts are RAWKesque in their hilarity - he is hugely underrated on this site. There's a reason he has consitently been scoring with the biggest clubs in the world and consistently attracting ridiculous transfer fees - the reason's simple; he's world class, one of the best in the world at what he does.
[quote author=darkstarexodus link=topic=41577.msg1163353#msg1163353 date=1282888540]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41577.msg1163338#msg1163338 date=1282883265]
[quote author=darkstarexodus link=topic=41577.msg1163302#msg1163302 date=1282868560]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41577.msg1162442#msg1162442 date=1282811795]
So considering Sweden is NOT a bad team and HAS had good runs in int'l tournaments, surely a player of Zlatan's greatness could take them to some major tourney. His int'l stats (23 in 63) are nothing to write home about either.
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Yes, especially compared to Ryan Giggs, the greatest player of all time, and he's led Wales to a World Cup semi-final. [/quote]
You're not seriously comparing Wales to Sweden, are you?
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Not really, no. But I do think it's a pretty weak argument. Keeping it to club football and his scoring record in the Champions League knockout stages is your best bet here. Considering you're usually not very dogmatic, you have always come across as having a vendetta against Ibra. Just a little curious why I guess.
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No vendetta. I think he's an excellent player, I've said it on this thread and others a few times. I just don't think he's good enough to be considered in that 'upper level' of great strikers.
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41577.msg1163338#msg1163338 date=1282883265]
[quote author=darkstarexodus link=topic=41577.msg1163302#msg1163302 date=1282868560]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=41577.msg1162442#msg1162442 date=1282811795]
So considering Sweden is NOT a bad team and HAS had good runs in int'l tournaments, surely a player of Zlatan's greatness could take them to some major tourney. His int'l stats (23 in 63) are nothing to write home about either.
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Yes, especially compared to Ryan Giggs, the greatest player of all time, and he's led Wales to a World Cup semi-final. [/quote]
You're not seriously comparing Wales to Sweden, are you?
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Not really, no. But I do think it's a pretty weak argument. Keeping it to club football and his scoring record in the Champions League knockout stages is your best bet here. Considering you're usually not very dogmatic, you have always come across as having a vendetta against Ibra. Just a little curious why I guess.
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No vendetta. I think he's an excellent player, I've said it on this thread and others a few times. I just don't think he's good enough to be considered in that 'upper level' of great strikers.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41577.msg1163412#msg1163412 date=1282895076]
I think the reason why some are very negative on Zlatan is because at the other end we have posters on here who bottle his farts and spray 'Eau de Zlatan on themselves in the hopes of sharing his greatness.
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In a nutshell. Two posters spring to mind whose posts I take with huge pinchs of salt. Perhaps I should take them with huge pinchs of cyanide!
I think the reason why some are very negative on Zlatan is because at the other end we have posters on here who bottle his farts and spray 'Eau de Zlatan on themselves in the hopes of sharing his greatness.
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In a nutshell. Two posters spring to mind whose posts I take with huge pinchs of salt. Perhaps I should take them with huge pinchs of cyanide!
[quote author=red_maradona link=topic=41577.msg1163354#msg1163354 date=1282888540]
jesus, some of the negative comments zlatan attracts are RAWKesque in their hilarity - he is hugely underrated on this site. There's a reason he has consitently been scoring with the biggest clubs in the world and consistently attracting ridiculous transfer fees - the reason's simple; he's world class, one of the best in the world at what he does.
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There's also a reason why he's been moved on from those clubs and not stayed at any of them for a really long time. His skill is world class but his backbone isn't. If we want to get back to the very top, Ibrahimovic is NOT the player we need. He's a flat track bully who can score shedloads against nothing sides, so he's a player you sign to consolidate your squad when you're already on top.
No thanks, especially at the price we'd be charged for him.
jesus, some of the negative comments zlatan attracts are RAWKesque in their hilarity - he is hugely underrated on this site. There's a reason he has consitently been scoring with the biggest clubs in the world and consistently attracting ridiculous transfer fees - the reason's simple; he's world class, one of the best in the world at what he does.
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There's also a reason why he's been moved on from those clubs and not stayed at any of them for a really long time. His skill is world class but his backbone isn't. If we want to get back to the very top, Ibrahimovic is NOT the player we need. He's a flat track bully who can score shedloads against nothing sides, so he's a player you sign to consolidate your squad when you're already on top.
No thanks, especially at the price we'd be charged for him.
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[quote author=red_maradona link=topic=41577.msg1163354#msg1163354 date=1282888540]
jesus, some of the negative comments zlatan attracts are RAWKesque in their hilarity - he is hugely underrated on this site. There's a reason he has consitently been scoring with the biggest clubs in the world and consistently attracting ridiculous transfer fees - the reason's simple; he's world class, one of the best in the world at what he does.
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There's also a reason why he's been moved on from those clubs and not stayed at any of them for a really long time. His skill is world class but his backbone isn't. If we want to get back to the very top, Ibrahimovic is NOT the player we need. He's a flat track bully who can score shedloads against nothing sides, so he's a player you sign to consolidate your squad when you're already on top.
No thanks, especially at the price we'd be charged for him.
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Been moved on? This is the first club where he has sat on the bench.
[quote author=red_maradona link=topic=41577.msg1163354#msg1163354 date=1282888540]
jesus, some of the negative comments zlatan attracts are RAWKesque in their hilarity - he is hugely underrated on this site. There's a reason he has consitently been scoring with the biggest clubs in the world and consistently attracting ridiculous transfer fees - the reason's simple; he's world class, one of the best in the world at what he does.
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There's also a reason why he's been moved on from those clubs and not stayed at any of them for a really long time. His skill is world class but his backbone isn't. If we want to get back to the very top, Ibrahimovic is NOT the player we need. He's a flat track bully who can score shedloads against nothing sides, so he's a player you sign to consolidate your squad when you're already on top.
No thanks, especially at the price we'd be charged for him.
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Been moved on? This is the first club where he has sat on the bench.
Nothing to do with being on the bench or not. The point I'm making is that it won't be the first club he's left after a relatively short time.
You can judge an argument very easily sometimes:
Massive fans of zlatan: Dreamy, red maradona, massive zlatan, ossi
Some of the biggest, most cluless whoppers on the site
Massive fans of zlatan: Dreamy, red maradona, massive zlatan, ossi
Some of the biggest, most cluless whoppers on the site
relatively speaking, obviously he isn't 'shit', but some people put him in the top tier and he is no where near that good. the transfer of eto'o and zlatan has to be one of the most bizarre transfers ever, inter must have been PISSING THEMSELVES laughing.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41577.msg1163792#msg1163792 date=1282911653]
You can judge an argument very easily sometimes:
Massive fans of zlatan: Dreamy, red maradona, massive zlatan, ossi
Some of the biggest, most cluless whoppers on the site
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Nah, I may be a clueless whopper but I´m not a massive fan of Zlatan. He´s not overrated because he´s a very good footballer but he has his downsides (as everyone else). Considering that I agree with you almost on everything...what does that make you?
You can judge an argument very easily sometimes:
Massive fans of zlatan: Dreamy, red maradona, massive zlatan, ossi
Some of the biggest, most cluless whoppers on the site
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Nah, I may be a clueless whopper but I´m not a massive fan of Zlatan. He´s not overrated because he´s a very good footballer but he has his downsides (as everyone else). Considering that I agree with you almost on everything...what does that make you?
Er, is it 'a massive whopper'?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=41577.msg1163822#msg1163822 date=1282912827]
Er, is it 'a massive whopper'?
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I think you should apologise to Ossi. You clearly selected him as a massive whopper because he's from Sweden, which isn't fair at all.
Er, is it 'a massive whopper'?
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I think you should apologise to Ossi. You clearly selected him as a massive whopper because he's from Sweden, which isn't fair at all.
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=41577.msg1161138#msg1161138 date=1282668636]
Zlatan Ibrahimovic's agent claims other clubs are interested in the Barcelona striker after saying negotiations with AC Milan will be 'very difficult'.
How much & who ? Can't be many that could afford him. Part-Ex swap deal for Masherano ?
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Just read a piece that says Barca are going to sell him and will be looking for 40m Euro's.....yes, cheeky twats
As you say who can afford that who is not already covered for forwards?
How much is he realistically worth £25m? Anyways a deal like that ain't going to be done before the window so it's academic, but Barca are going to have a very unhappy expensive player on their books, as will City. If we get some money there might be some pickings in January for a change
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Zlatan Ibrahimovic's agent claims other clubs are interested in the Barcelona striker after saying negotiations with AC Milan will be 'very difficult'.
How much & who ? Can't be many that could afford him. Part-Ex swap deal for Masherano ?
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Just read a piece that says Barca are going to sell him and will be looking for 40m Euro's.....yes, cheeky twats
As you say who can afford that who is not already covered for forwards?
How much is he realistically worth £25m? Anyways a deal like that ain't going to be done before the window so it's academic, but Barca are going to have a very unhappy expensive player on their books, as will City. If we get some money there might be some pickings in January for a change
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Let's see how he does going to a team that has little chance to win the title:
Little chance to win the title? Are AC Milan really that bad now?
The way I see it, it'll probably be quite open over there especially once Rafa has worked his magic on changing the mentality of Mourinho's Inter.
Inter still faves but it'll be VERY close this year in the Serie A title race. Wouldn't be surprised if 4 teams were in it to win it in the last few games.
The way I see it, it'll probably be quite open over there especially once Rafa has worked his magic on changing the mentality of Mourinho's Inter.
Inter still faves but it'll be VERY close this year in the Serie A title race. Wouldn't be surprised if 4 teams were in it to win it in the last few games.
Man City, Madrid, Chelsea offering tens of millions up front for Zlatan .... Milan show how to play the transfer market!
Galliani pulls one out of his a$$, seriously love him or hate him this is a steal for Milan.
How does a club with zero transfer funds left this season manage to sign a top striker?
I can't wrap my head around how badly Barca just got a$$raped by this deal.
Ibra even took a 4mill euro per year paycut FFS!!! ... and the 24mill is to be payed in installments over 3 years.
The deal is just f'king ridiculous what is Rosell thinking!?!? Milan will make that cash back just by selling shirts lol...
Galliani pulls one out of his a$$, seriously love him or hate him this is a steal for Milan.
How does a club with zero transfer funds left this season manage to sign a top striker?
I can't wrap my head around how badly Barca just got a$$raped by this deal.
Ibra even took a 4mill euro per year paycut FFS!!! ... and the 24mill is to be payed in installments over 3 years.
The deal is just f'king ridiculous what is Rosell thinking!?!? Milan will make that cash back just by selling shirts lol...
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Little chance to win the title? Are AC Milan really that bad now?
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They're not that bad, but they still have the same problem of the last team Ancelotti managed - avg goalkeeping, aging and mistake prone defense and no width whatsoever. Perhaps with Zlatan, Pato can bloom even more so ...
Little chance to win the title? Are AC Milan really that bad now?
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They're not that bad, but they still have the same problem of the last team Ancelotti managed - avg goalkeeping, aging and mistake prone defense and no width whatsoever. Perhaps with Zlatan, Pato can bloom even more so ...
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