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I know what we did last Summer..........

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by Setanta Staff , 26 April 2012
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Kenny Dalglish is planning a raft of changes at the club which could see record signing Andy Carroll leave, on loan.
Despite lifting the Carling Cup, and having the possibility to double that up with the FA Cup next month, it has been a disappointing season in the league for the Reds and Dalglish is apparently planning a major overhaul in the summer.
The lack of goals at Anfield has been the problem and Dalglish has been linked with all and sundry on the striker front, Valencia's Roberto Soldado, Athletic Bilbao's Fernando Llorente and FC Groningen's David Texeira have all been watched.
Reports suggest Carroll will be allowed out on loan so that he can concentrate on rediscovering the sort of form that made Liverpool offer £35m for him in the first place.
Dalglish is expected to be again handed the backing of the American owners when it comes to the summer's transfer dealings.
 
All speculation I know.......................................................................................................
Reds boss Kenny Dalglish is targeting up to five new players when the transfer window re-opens at the end of the season, and having seen his side score just 40 times in the league this term, adding extra fire power is a certain priority.
Valencia's Roberto Soldado, Athletic Bilbao's Fernando Llorente and FC Groningen's David Texeira are all under consideration by Dalglish, who has once again been promised substantial funds by owner John W. Henry, in a bid to continue revamping his under performing squad.
Yet the arrival of a big name striker will force Dalglish into making a decision on £35 million flop Andy Carroll - with talk on Merseyside suggesting he will be allowed to leave Anfield on a short-term loan deal, should the right offer arrive.
Dalglish toyed with the idea of letting Carroll quit the club last January, on the suggestion of then Director of Football Damien Comolli, but stuck with the 23-year-old, who has netted two crucial goals in his last three games.
However, if Liverpool can land a top quality partner for Luis Suarez, and can find a suitable club, Carroll will be allowed to move on loan until the New Year, in a bid to re-discover the form that saw him capped for England in 2010.
Elsewhere, Liverpool will also listen to offers for Dutch forward Dirk Kuyt - a target for Hamburg - while Dani Pacheco, currently on loan in La Liga, has been told he is free to negotiate a permanent transfer.
Exciting youngsters Nathan Eccleston, Jonjo Shelvey, Jon Flanagan and Raheem Sterling are also likely to leave, but only on loan, while Spain Under-19 winger Suso could be promoted to the first-team, if he continues his fine form for the reserves
 
I'm not sure what's worse, Carroll being loaned out or the idea of Dalglish being given carte-blanche on transfers. I'm pretty sure neither will turn out to be true, though. I'd be a lot happier if we'd hurry up and get that new Director of Football installed, though.
 
I'm not sure what's worse, Carroll being loaned out or the idea of Dalglish being given carte-blanche on transfers. I'm pretty sure neither will turn out to be true, though. I'd be a lot happier if we'd hurry up and get that new Director of Football installed, though.

so cynical, what happened to the 'happy go lucky', 'fly by the seat of your pants', 'glass half full' pete?
 
I'm not sure what's worse, Carroll being loaned out or the idea of Dalglish being given carte-blanche on transfers. I'm pretty sure neither will turn out to be true, though. I'd be a lot happier if we'd hurry up and get that new Director of Football installed, though.
Certainly having a director of football in charge made a difference to our dealing in the transfer market at the end of last season.
 
The view from England
The worst signings of the season
April 26, 2012
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By Norman Hubbard
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Money is only actually a boon if used well, as many a football club has proved over the years. ESPNsoccernet's selection of the worst signings of the season cost the best part of £100 million and may now only be worth a fraction of that. Most have had a detrimental impact on their club's season; others have barely featured in it. Some may come good over the course of their contract, but the majority probably won't. And as far as this season is concerned, all are simply bad buys.

10. Charlie Adam (Liverpool, £7.5 million)

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Charlie Adam has failed to live up to expectations at Anfield
When assessing Charlie Adam's season, it is worth remembering Liverpool did not need to sign a central midfield passer. Adam was recruited in a summer in which they sold Raul Meireles and loaned out Alberto Aquilani. Nine months later, the Scot still seems best suited to Blackpool, to having a team built around him, rather than Liverpool, where he has struggled to dovetail with greater talents. The set-pieces Sir Alex Ferguson once described as being worth £10 million have been a grave disappointment while the playmaker has struggled to dictate games. Though many of Liverpool's poorer results have occurred in his absence, it is hard to claim they have actually missed Adam.

9. Charles N'Zogbia (Aston Villa, £10 million)
While Stewart Downing may be mocked elsewhere, the Villa Park faithful could be forgiven for feeling nostalgic for the days he manned the flanks. His successor, Charles N'Zogbia, was brought in as a replacement for both Downing and Ashley Young and was Villa's marquee summer signing. A return of two goals and three assists all season is one sign he has failed; another is that he has been on a bench otherwise populated by untried rookies while Villa have had injury problems. The mercurial Frenchman has proved both unsuccessful in and unhappy with manager Alex McLeish's defensive brand of football.

8. Jordan Henderson (Liverpool, £16 million)
Normally, being a near ever-present is a sign a footballer has excelled. Yet no Liverpool player has made more appearances this season than Jordan Henderson and he is no nearer to justifying an inflated fee that could rise still further to £20 million. Of course, Henderson's price tag is not his fault but, despite occasional glimpses of talent, such a costly signing ought to deliver more. It hardly helps that he has been played just off a sole striker and on the right wing, neither his best position.

7. Myles Anderson (Blackburn, free)
Not just a poor signing, but also a perplexing one as far as supporters were concerned. Steve Kean likened him to Chris Smalling when signing a player who made a solitary appearance for Aberdeen. Since then, Anderson has not played at all for Blackburn. Neither, for that matter, has full-back Bruno Ribeiro, described as a Brazilian Denis Irwin when recruited. Neither even got on the bench when Rovers had five defenders out injured, so why sign them?

6. Stefan Savic (Manchester City, £6 million)
If one game summed up Stefan Savic's season, it was surely the Carling Cup semi-final second leg at Anfield when he was hauled off at half-time. The conclusion, then and all too often, appeared to be that the Montenegrin is a liability, that whatever talent he possesses, he is too callow and error-prone to be risked. He has not featured in the league since playing in the 1-0 loss to Swansea which, coincidentally or not, might have been City's worst performance of the season and has appeared in a disproportionate number of their domestic defeats.

5. Romelu Lukaku (Chelsea, £18 million)
It can be easy to criticise the super-rich for spending money without really thinking things through, but sometimes it is fair enough. Consider the case of Romelu Lukaku, who cost more than Swansea paid for their entire squad and has played a mere 83 minutes' Premier League football this season. With a team happiest playing one out-and-out striker and in a squad that also includes Didier Drogba, Fernando Torres, Daniel Sturridge and Salomon Kalou - plus, for half a season, Nicolas Anelka - it was always hard to see where Lukaku would figure. As it is, the giant has been virtually invisible. Include Thibaut Courtois and Kevin de Bruyne, both out on loan, and Chelsea have spent more than £30 million on Belgians who have not played. They may prove astute long-term investments, but in the short term, they have had a negligible impact.

4. Shaun Wright-Phillips (QPR, £2.5 million)

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Shaun Wright-Phillips has endured a dismal first season with QPR
There is a temptation to choose Djibril Cisse, whose five QPR appearances have brought two red cards, but at least the temperamental Frenchman has contributed on the rare occasions he has managed to stay on the pitch. Shaun Wright-Phillips, on the other hand, has achieved virtually nothing, whether on the right, the left or playing just off the attack. While Jamie Mackie's recovery from a badly-broken leg has been one of the more heartening stories of the season, it has had an added benefit for Rangers: it has enabled them to leave Wright-Phillips on the bench.

3. Stewart Downing (Liverpool, £20 million)
It beggars belief that, after 32 games, a £20 million winger still has not scored or created a goal in the Premier League this season. Perhaps, in some ways, Stewart Downing epitomises Liverpool: by the law of averages, something surely should have gone in, even if it was the product of a mishit. Yet the damning statistics are not the only indications Downing has failed. He appears to lack both the mentality to play for Liverpool and the pace to get beyond defenders. Liverpool supporters who want to depress themselves might ponder how such a huge sum could have been better spent.

2. Scott Dann (Blackburn, £7.7 million)
Go back to last summer and Scott Dann seemed a man in demand. Liverpool and Arsenal were allegedly interested, so it seemed a coup when Blackburn signed him at the end of the transfer window. Now it looks another of the mistakes that could cost Rovers their Premier League status. Secure in a well-drilled and rigorously-screened Birmingham back four last season, Dann has been exposed and embarrassed at Ewood Park. Examine the many goals that Blackburn have conceded and all too often he is culpable. The ruptured testicle he suffered in December may have seemed the most painful part of his season, but arguably his defending has caused more anguish.

1. Roger Johnson (Wolves, £7 million)
Wolves' relegation to the Championship is largely attributable to two disastrous decisions: firstly, sacking Mick McCarthy and ending up with Terry Connor as his replacement and, secondly, the former manager's move to make Roger Johnson his biggest buy and new captain. So reliable alongside Scott Dann at Birmingham, they sit side by side again in this list. But while Dann has been dreadful, Johnson has been worse. He has turned up drunk for training, almost come to blows on the field with team-mate Wayne Hennessey and, rather than improving the defence, has not even merited a place in it.
 
Certainly having a director of football in charge made a difference to our dealing in the transfer market at the end of last season.

Well it's not a DoF per se I want but someone different from the idiots who signed our last bunch of players, and seeing as I think Kenny had a major say in that then having someone else - anyone else - calling the shots would at least give me hope.
 
so 3 of that 10 are ours and deserve to be in there . A disgrace of a transfer window . i hope they are all sold in the summer even if we get fuck all for them .
 
Well it's not a DoF per se I want but someone different from the idiots who signed our last bunch of players, and seeing as I think Kenny had a major say in that then having someone else - anyone else - calling the shots would at least give me hope.
As Oncey has said elsewhere, the owners at least seem to have made a judgement on who they believe was mainly responsible for the last number of transfers
 
If we were to go for Llorente its pretty much us saying that Carroll isn't in our future plans isn't it?
 
As Oncey has said elsewhere, the owners at least seem to have made a judgement on who they believe was mainly responsible for the last number oft transfers

Which is fair play. The only flip side I guess is that the debate was more over how much was paid than who we identified. If that's the case we're clearly brushing a big issue under the carpet. Comolli might have failed to identify talent that would otherwise have been unearthed, but there was still surely an agreement of sorts over the players signed.
 
As Oncey has said elsewhere, the owners at least seem to have made a judgement on who they believe was mainly responsible for the last number oft transfers

Well I don't buy that. I think it's obvious that Kenny had a major say in last summer's transfers and if I can see that then FSG certainly can.
 
Well I don't buy that. I think it's obvious that Kenny had a major say in last summer's transfers and if I can see that then FSG certainly can.
Why do you think Comoli was sacked then Peter, or sacked first at least?

BTW I am not trying to say that Kenny is blameless when it comes to transfers though it seems to me that he is not entirely at fault either.
It irks me though that people want to lay the blame for them wholly at his door as they do with a lot of other things as well.
 
I'd be very surprised if the Americans give Dalglish much to spend this summer. They seem pretty ruthless and I can't seem them happily dishing out another 100M and hoping it gets used well.

The 'Anfield clearout' stories might continue cos I reckon Dalglish will have to raise funds through selling some of the shit.
 
Why do you think Comoli was sacked then Peter, or sacked first at least?

BTW I am not trying to say that Kenny is blameless when it comes to transfers though it seems to me that he is not entirely at fault either.
It irks me though that people want to lay the blame for them wholly at his door as they do with a lot of other things as well.

I think they'd like to have sacked both of them but are a bit nervous about getting rid of Kenny, so Comolli went first, also serving as a warning to Kenny that thing haven't been good enough. Preparing the ground to fire him as well, basically.

Just my reading of it. I certainly find it impossible to believe the theory that the whole thing is a victory for Dalglish, with FSG coming down on his side and backing him to the hilt, with all the blame on Comolli. That seems wildly unlikely to me.
 
Oh, and obv. the blame should be shared. I was one of the few on here consistently questioning how much say he had in the Carroll transfer, for example. I've been saying that for months.
 
Oh, and obv. the blame should be shared. I was one of the few on here consistently questioning how much say he had in the Carroll transfer, for example. I've been saying that for months.
Yea, I would assume that Kenny is at best on notice that anything other than significant improvement in next season's league campaign will lead to a request for his resignation
 
Why do you think Comoli was sacked then Peter, or sacked first at least?

BTW I am not trying to say that Kenny is blameless when it comes to transfers though it seems to me that he is not entirely at fault either.
It irks me though that people want to lay the blame for them wholly at his door as they do with a lot of other things as well.


But then you are of the opinion that Kenny was lying in the aftermath of Comoli's sacking when he said that all the players signed were his and comolli did a great job in sealing the deals . He didn't need to say that but he did and he seemed to want to get the point across.

Personally i still don't fully understand the logic of removing Comoli and not dalglish especially considering they said the reasons for doing so were results based . But i do feel they probably think they rushed into appointing Comoli and were not fully happy with his overall performance so were looking to replace anyway.
 
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