Henderson, Adam and Gerrard

[Mystic]

Looking at the line up on Saturday I was hopeful, it was our strongest line up and would form a wonderful 4-3-3, however that's not what we saw and we paid for it. It's been well documented that a complete lack of tracking from Gerrard and Adam was the reason we lost the first two goals, they were atrocious at doing it. There was one player on the field who has been tracking runners this season, something Lucas does brilliantly, however for some reason he was stuck out on the right wing, even though later on in the game he was coming across and tracking some of the runners where Adam couldn't be bothered and Gerrard was too far forward. That of course was Henderson and he should be in the middle of the park for all our games until Lucas is back, or at a stretch play Spearing there. We were torn apart by one of the worst teams in the league on Saturday because our midfield had a hole bigger than the grand canyon in it, Adam and Gerrard just won't pick up this slack, Henderson has, and Henderson will. Apply some common sense and play 4-3-3 with Henderson in the middle please Kenny.

 

[Insignificance]

It is very good points.

in a 4-3-3 you can play with one midfielder pushed up between the wingers making it a 4-2-3-1. This is what we normally do. However the weakness in this system (especially for us) is that we have problem attacking the box. For some reason the 3 people supporting the striker rarelly comes into the box and the two holding midfielders are never in the box. And we really need to adress that area. We have been better at this when Luis has played, but when Andy or Dirk has occupied the lone striker role they have been isolated from the rest of the team.

By turning the triangle in the middle for Hendo behind Adam and Stevie we could possibly get some help in attacking the box by those two. If we then also can get one winger attacking the far side of the box the ddefence will struggle to isolate the lone striker as they have more to worry about.

 

[Whitey85]

'Adam and Gerrard just won't pick up this slack, Henderson has, and Henderson will'

The same Henderson who is scared to stick his boot in half the time?

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=48420.msg1469672#msg1469672 date=1327409934]
'Adam and Gerrard just won't pick up this slack, Henderson has, and Henderson will'

The same Henderson who is scared to stick his boot in half the time?
[/quote]

Well he is what we got.. I dont think he is scared. But he is able to cover spaces and to become a monster tackler he need development. To be honest, most of the teams we should be able to control without having to win the ball back all the time. It is just to keep it in the team. Pass it and then move. Pass it and move.

 

[Fabio]

Adam and henderson won't be good enough to play without an orthodox dm next to them.

Neither of them are all action dynamos

Bring in shelvey!

 

[Squiggles]

I said in the match thread that there is no point in Charlie Adam when Gerrard is on the pitch and you've got two strikers, because he cannot defend as well as we need him to and Gerrard is there to drive the team forward - he just looks lost.

Until Suarez is back I think we need to go something like

------------Carroll/Kuyt------
--Bellamy---Gerrard----Downing
------Spearing---Henderson---

But then I was reasonably happy with the team against Bolton...

 

[Delinquent]

I'm hoping Kenny has some common sense and ignores this suggestion. Henderson is as uninspiring without the ball as he is with it, and is not the player to shore up our midfield. I think Spearing was doing an excellent job of deputising for Lucas before he got injured, and the sooner he's fit, the better as far as I'm concerned. I'd like to see a midfield three of Spearing, Gerrard, and Shelvey.

 

[Mystic]

[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=48420.msg1469686#msg1469686 date=1327411059]
I'm hoping Kenny has some common sense and ignores this suggestion. Henderson is as uninspiring without the ball as he is with it, and is not the player to shore up our midfield. I think Spearing was doing an excellent job of deputising for Lucas before he got injured, and the sooner he's fit, the better as far as I'm concerned. I'd like to see a midfield three of Spearing, Gerrard, and Shelvey.
[/quote]

Well that's just not correct about Henderson, watch the games he's playing in the middle, he does pick up the slack and follow the runners from the midfielder where others don't, you don't have to be a headless chicken hacking at peoples ankles to be that. Henderson is a lot better at tracking back and covering than both Gerrard and Adam, and he's a much better footballer than Spearing.

 

[Fabio]

Re: Re: Henderson, Adam and Gerrard

[quote author=Mystic link=topic=48420.msg1#msg1 date=1327412747]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=48420.msg1469686#msg1469686 date=1327411059]
I'm hoping Kenny has some common sense and ignores this suggestion. Henderson is as uninspiring without the ball as he is with it, and is not the player to shore up our midfield. I think Spearing was doing an excellent job of deputising for Lucas before he got injured, and the sooner he's fit, the better as far as I'm concerned. I'd like to see a midfield three of Spearing, Gerrard, and Shelvey.
[/quote]

Well that's just not correct about Henderson, watch the games he's playing in the middle, he does pick up the slack and follow the runners from the midfielder where others don't, you don't have to be a headless chicken hacking at peoples ankles to be that. Henderson is a lot better at tracking back and covering than both Gerrard and Adam, and he's a much better footballer than Spearing.
[/quote]

Tbf you are right, he does track the runners

Shame he doesn't put a tackle in like

 

[Delinquent]

[quote author=Mystic link=topic=48420.msg1469696#msg1469696 date=1327412747]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=48420.msg1469686#msg1469686 date=1327411059]
I'm hoping Kenny has some common sense and ignores this suggestion. Henderson is as uninspiring without the ball as he is with it, and is not the player to shore up our midfield. I think Spearing was doing an excellent job of deputising for Lucas before he got injured, and the sooner he's fit, the better as far as I'm concerned. I'd like to see a midfield three of Spearing, Gerrard, and Shelvey.
[/quote]

Well that's just not correct about Henderson, watch the games he's playing in the middle, he does pick up the slack and follow the runners from the midfielder where others don't, you don't have to be a headless chicken hacking at peoples ankles to be that. Henderson is a lot better at tracking back and covering than both Gerrard and Adam, and he's a much better footballer than Spearing.
[/quote]

I have watched Henderson. He shows glimpses of class every now and again, but for the most part, he's just neat and tidy, with about the boldness and adventure of a baby starling. He seems content to just keep possession, which usually involves receiving the ball, and releasing it quickly to someone in a less advanced position. As for tracking back, I don't believe he is any better than Adam or Gerrard at it. And if he is, the difference is negligible. It's not something he's renowned for, and his tackling is non-existent anyway.

If the objective is to add some steel to the midfield, then our only options, sadly, are Lucas and Spearing, and one of them is injured.

 

[Le Chacal]

Is it just me or KHL's buddy Agger was at fault on their 3 goals.

Stevie is playing too deep, I'd like to see him play behind the strikers not behind the midfield...

 

[refugee]

[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=48420.msg1469725#msg1469725 date=1327415683]
Is it just me or KHL's buddy Agger was at fault on their 3 goals.

Stevie is playing too deep, I'd like to see him play behind the strikers not behind the midfield...
[/quote]

He definitely wasn't at fault for the 2nd, he was outnumbered 2 v1 because our midfielder didn't bother to track back.

I need to see the corner again, but Carroll was standing quite near where the ball eventually dropped for the goal but moved out of position when the ball came in initially. Their player was left completely unmarked because of this (stupid) movement and Agger had to move into the resultant space.

Can't remember the first, can't be arsed looking, but it's irrelevant anyway because if you think he's at fault for being 2v1 then your insane.

 

[Delinquent]

Agger had a shocker, and was partly at fault for all of their goals, I thought. That said, it was his first game back from injury so he's kind of excused. Plus he's been aces for the most part this season. Him and Skrtel both.

 

[kingjulian]

I agree with all the posts Delinquent has made in this thread...

Except may be i wouldn't be that harsh on Henderson...

 

[Mystic]

[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=48420.msg1469715#msg1469715 date=1327414593]
[quote author=Mystic link=topic=48420.msg1469696#msg1469696 date=1327412747]
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=48420.msg1469686#msg1469686 date=1327411059]
I'm hoping Kenny has some common sense and ignores this suggestion. Henderson is as uninspiring without the ball as he is with it, and is not the player to shore up our midfield. I think Spearing was doing an excellent job of deputising for Lucas before he got injured, and the sooner he's fit, the better as far as I'm concerned. I'd like to see a midfield three of Spearing, Gerrard, and Shelvey.
[/quote]

Well that's just not correct about Henderson, watch the games he's playing in the middle, he does pick up the slack and follow the runners from the midfielder where others don't, you don't have to be a headless chicken hacking at peoples ankles to be that. Henderson is a lot better at tracking back and covering than both Gerrard and Adam, and he's a much better footballer than Spearing.
[/quote]

I have watched Henderson. He shows glimpses of class every now and again, but for the most part, he's just neat and tidy, with about the boldness and adventure of a baby starling. He seems content to just keep possession, which usually involves receiving the ball, and releasing it quickly to someone in a less advanced position. As for tracking back, I don't believe he is any better than Adam or Gerrard at it. And if he is, the difference is negligible. It's not something he's renowned for, and his tackling is non-existent anyway.

If the objective is to add some steel to the midfield, then our only options, sadly, are Lucas and Spearing, and one of them is injured.
[/quote]

Nope sorry, he tracks back a lot more, it's much more than negligible, why is it the one game in which we start with them two in midfield, we suddenly have a black hole in the middle of the field, against possibly the worst attacking team in the league. They weren't tracking for shit, and later on in the game Henderson himself was coming across from midfield to track there runners where they wouldn't. People have said he doesn't put in a tackle, and maybe he doesn't tackle enough, but he follows the player and puts enough pressure on them so they don't waltz in without a care in the world and score two easy goals.

Other than that I agree with your assessment of him, he needs to be more bold and have more confidence, he does play it safe a lot, however he's not as detrimental to attacks as you imply, he's played some great games in the middle though and that's where he should stay. My point however was, if you're not going to play Spearing, you cannot justify not playing Henderson in the middle, otherwise yesterday happens. Personally I'd drop Adam, play Spearing and Henderson in the middle and Stevie behind the striker, but under no circumstances should Kenny play Adam and Gerrard alone in the middle.

 

[hmmmmm1]

henderson is our michael carrick just not as good at passing the ball

 

[Markeh]

This is exactly why Kenny played 5 at the back, because Adam and Gerrard don't have enough running or defensive mindedness in them to play as a midfield 2. But he got slaughtered for that, I don't think he fancies those two and Henderson as a 3 either.

Henderson should be 1st choice centre midfield at the minute purely based on his energy and fitness.

 

[Modo]

[quote author=Markeh link=topic=48420.msg1469820#msg1469820 date=1327424464]
This is exactly why Kenny played 5 at the back, because Adam and Gerrard don't have enough running or defensive mindedness in them to play as a midfield 2. But he got slaughtered for that, I don't think he fancies those two and Henderson as a 3 either.

Henderson should be 1st choice centre midfield at the minute purely based on his energy and fitness.
[/quote]

He agrees with you.

 

[Delinquent]

[quote author=Markeh link=topic=48420.msg1469820#msg1469820 date=1327424464]
This is exactly why Kenny played 5 at the back, because Adam and Gerrard don't have enough running or defensive mindedness in them to play as a midfield 2. But he got slaughtered for that, I don't think he fancies those two and Henderson as a 3 either.

Henderson should be 1st choice centre midfield at the minute purely based on his energy and fitness.
[/quote]

Steven Gerrard should be first choice centre midfield at the minute purely based on the fact that he's in a different league to anyone else we have. Jordan Henderson, in the nicest possible way, should be sitting on the sidelines taking notes. Kenny will continue to persist with him though, so worry not.

And of course Kenny got slaughtered for playing 5 at the back against a Stoke at Anfield. It was completely unnecessary and we were fucking awful as a result.

 

[keniget]

It's a sad state affairs when you're having to arguing a case for a midfielder based on the fact that he's got energy.

Then again, I suppose we've been doing it for years with Kuyt.

 

[gene hughes]

It's a sad state of affairs when I find myself thinking back nostalgically at how Momo would batter the opposition's midfielders, run around like a mad woman's shite and whack the ball 70 feet up in the air.

 

[Farkmaster]

I wouldn't be opposed to us playing a 433 with Bellamy Gerrard and Suarez in the front three. Gerrard has proven effective on the right previously, and it will save his legs.


I'd much rather Henderson at DM out of position than on the right out of position, as he's the most athletic, but even though I don't rate him, Spearing is ideal there.


I think other managers would have considered playing Gerrard in a dedicated attacking role this season, considering what his attributes are, and what our pressing needs are.

 

[Markeh]

[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=48420.msg1469825#msg1469825 date=1327425331]
[quote author=Markeh link=topic=48420.msg1469820#msg1469820 date=1327424464]
This is exactly why Kenny played 5 at the back, because Adam and Gerrard don't have enough running or defensive mindedness in them to play as a midfield 2. But he got slaughtered for that, I don't think he fancies those two and Henderson as a 3 either.

Henderson should be 1st choice centre midfield at the minute purely based on his energy and fitness.
[/quote]

Steven Gerrard should be first choice centre midfield at the minute purely based on the fact that he's in a different league to anyone else we have. Jordan Henderson, in the nicest possible way, should be sitting on the sidelines taking notes. Kenny will continue to persist with him though, so worry not.

And of course Kenny got slaughtered for playing 5 at the back against a Stoke at Anfield. It was completely unnecessary and we were fucking awful as a result.
[/quote]

Still, it would've been preferable to the Bolton result.

Alright you, me and my dog know Gerrard's the best centre midfielder we have but he's not gonna get us any results on his own, I just think it's very important to have some midfielders who can get up and down the pitch for 90mins. Gerrards not gonna do anything special for us if he/we can't get the ball or some sort of momentum going and he's not built for repeatedly tracking back 50yards and slide tackling to perfection anymore, that's a young mans game.

If Spearing's not fit I dunno how Henderson should be on the sidelines, but with a fully fit squad, yea he should have splinters in his arse for the time being.

 

[Mystic]

[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=48420.msg1469825#msg1469825 date=1327425331]
[quote author=Markeh link=topic=48420.msg1469820#msg1469820 date=1327424464]
This is exactly why Kenny played 5 at the back, because Adam and Gerrard don't have enough running or defensive mindedness in them to play as a midfield 2. But he got slaughtered for that, I don't think he fancies those two and Henderson as a 3 either.

Henderson should be 1st choice centre midfield at the minute purely based on his energy and fitness.
[/quote]

Steven Gerrard should be first choice centre midfield at the minute purely based on the fact that he's in a different league to anyone else we have. Jordan Henderson, in the nicest possible way, should be sitting on the sidelines taking notes. Kenny will continue to persist with him though, so worry not.

And of course Kenny got slaughtered for playing 5 at the back against a Stoke at Anfield. It was completely unnecessary and we were fucking awful as a result.
[/quote]

he'll continue to perservere with him because with Lucas out he's out best option there. As has been said Gerrard should be afforded an attacking role, the same role he used to play with Torres.

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=48420.msg1469725#msg1469725 date=1327415683]
Is it just me or KHL's buddy Agger was at fault on their 3 goals.

Stevie is playing too deep, I'd like to see him play behind the strikers not behind the midfield...
[/quote]

Thats very harsh.

For the first goal Skrtel have to push high to cover the gap the midfield has left open. Enrique doesnt give Agger any help and he is played chessmate by the holes. If he sold himself to early it would have been even easier for them.

The second pretty much same scenario. A very good play by Bolton, but again the CMs are out of position leaving huge gaps for Bolton to play in. Agger cant do much about it.

The third. Well was he late or not? I am not sure. i just know that these fucking chances goes outside the post when we try and inside when our opposition tries. Fuck.

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48420.msg1470042#msg1470042 date=1327475803]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=48420.msg1469725#msg1469725 date=1327415683]
Is it just me or KHL's buddy Agger was at fault on their 3 goals.

Stevie is playing too deep, I'd like to see him play behind the strikers not behind the midfield...
[/quote]

Thats very harsh.

For the first goal Skrtel have to push high to cover the gap the midfield has left open. Enrique doesnt give Agger any help and he is played chessmate by the holes. If he sold himself to early it would have been even easier for them.

The second pretty much same scenario. A very good play by Bolton, but again the CMs are out of position leaving huge gaps for Bolton to play in. Agger cant do much about it.

The third. Well was he late or not? I am not sure. i just know that these fucking chances goes outside the post when we try and inside when our opposition tries. Fuck.
[/quote]

Agger and Johnson could have closed the gap between them for the first goal, instead they both stood off and stood off until it was too late. The back four were a mess, no one was particularly good against Bolton. Again though, they're getting fuck all protection and even when Lucas was playing, I raised the point countless times about the space we were allowing teams infront of the back four. Against Everton we were lucky not to get dry humped for the amount of shots we allowed them around the 18 yard box.

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48420.msg1470061#msg1470061 date=1327481578]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48420.msg1470042#msg1470042 date=1327475803]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=48420.msg1469725#msg1469725 date=1327415683]
Is it just me or KHL's buddy Agger was at fault on their 3 goals.

Stevie is playing too deep, I'd like to see him play behind the strikers not behind the midfield...
[/quote]

Thats very harsh.

For the first goal Skrtel have to push high to cover the gap the midfield has left open. Enrique doesnt give Agger any help and he is played chessmate by the holes. If he sold himself to early it would have been even easier for them.

The second pretty much same scenario. A very good play by Bolton, but again the CMs are out of position leaving huge gaps for Bolton to play in. Agger cant do much about it.

The third. Well was he late or not? I am not sure. i just know that these fucking chances goes outside the post when we try and inside when our opposition tries. Fuck.
[/quote]

Agger and Johnson could have closed the gap between them for the first goal, instead they both stood off and stood off until it was too late. The back four were a mess, no one was particularly good against Bolton. Again though, they're getting fuck all protection and even when Lucas was playing, I raised the point countless times about the space we were allowing teams infront of the back four. Against Everton we were lucky not to get dry humped for the amount of shots we allowed them around the 18 yard box.
[/quote]

I disagree with you there. Agger couldnt have moved to close that one without leaving the left side wide open. johnson was half distance away, but originally Skrtel should not have been forced to move if the midfield had done their job. The eroor for both goal 1 and 2 was the CMs not covering the spaces they should. That leaves Agger in a impossible position.

 

[Delinquent]

[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48420.msg1470068#msg1470068 date=1327482551]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48420.msg1470061#msg1470061 date=1327481578]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48420.msg1470042#msg1470042 date=1327475803]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=48420.msg1469725#msg1469725 date=1327415683]
Is it just me or KHL's buddy Agger was at fault on their 3 goals.

Stevie is playing too deep, I'd like to see him play behind the strikers not behind the midfield...
[/quote]

Thats very harsh.

For the first goal Skrtel have to push high to cover the gap the midfield has left open. Enrique doesnt give Agger any help and he is played chessmate by the holes. If he sold himself to early it would have been even easier for them.

The second pretty much same scenario. A very good play by Bolton, but again the CMs are out of position leaving huge gaps for Bolton to play in. Agger cant do much about it.

The third. Well was he late or not? I am not sure. i just know that these fucking chances goes outside the post when we try and inside when our opposition tries. Fuck.
[/quote]

Agger and Johnson could have closed the gap between them for the first goal, instead they both stood off and stood off until it was too late. The back four were a mess, no one was particularly good against Bolton. Again though, they're getting fuck all protection and even when Lucas was playing, I raised the point countless times about the space we were allowing teams infront of the back four. Against Everton we were lucky not to get dry humped for the amount of shots we allowed them around the 18 yard box.
[/quote]

I disagree with you there. Agger couldnt have moved to close that one without leaving the left side wide open. johnson was half distance away, but originally Skrtel should not have been forced to move if the midfield had done their job. The eroor for both goal 1 and 2 was the CMs not covering the spaces they should. That leaves Agger in a impossible position.
[/quote]

While there's no denying that the defence was left exposed, when someone is bearing down on goal, and there's no one else between you and them, you have to go to the ball. If that player slides someone in, fair enough, there's nothing you could have done about it. But you have to close down the ball. There were errors all over the place.

 

[mark1975]

[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48420.msg1470068#msg1470068 date=1327482551]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48420.msg1470061#msg1470061 date=1327481578]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48420.msg1470042#msg1470042 date=1327475803]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=48420.msg1469725#msg1469725 date=1327415683]
Is it just me or KHL's buddy Agger was at fault on their 3 goals.

Stevie is playing too deep, I'd like to see him play behind the strikers not behind the midfield...
[/quote]

Thats very harsh.

For the first goal Skrtel have to push high to cover the gap the midfield has left open. Enrique doesnt give Agger any help and he is played chessmate by the holes. If he sold himself to early it would have been even easier for them.

The second pretty much same scenario. A very good play by Bolton, but again the CMs are out of position leaving huge gaps for Bolton to play in. Agger cant do much about it.

The third. Well was he late or not? I am not sure. i just know that these fucking chances goes outside the post when we try and inside when our opposition tries. Fuck.
[/quote]

Agger and Johnson could have closed the gap between them for the first goal, instead they both stood off and stood off until it was too late. The back four were a mess, no one was particularly good against Bolton. Again though, they're getting fuck all protection and even when Lucas was playing, I raised the point countless times about the space we were allowing teams infront of the back four. Against Everton we were lucky not to get dry humped for the amount of shots we allowed them around the 18 yard box.
[/quote]

I disagree with you there. Agger couldnt have moved to close that one without leaving the left side wide open. johnson was half distance away, but originally Skrtel should not have been forced to move if the midfield had done their job. The eroor for both goal 1 and 2 was the CMs not covering the spaces they should. That leaves Agger in a impossible position.
[/quote]

I never said it was Agger's fault, if him and Johnson had closed the space between then they'd have had a better chance of blocking the shot, they both did nothing to close down the gap early enough. The midfield left us exposed, Skrtel stepped up to go to the danger and got turned too easily and Agger & Johnson stood off the player for too long. When two defenders are infront of the attacking player and close enough together like they were, they should be closing down the danger and reading the game.

 

[Insignificance]

[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48420.msg1470106#msg1470106 date=1327485817]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48420.msg1470068#msg1470068 date=1327482551]
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=48420.msg1470061#msg1470061 date=1327481578]
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=48420.msg1470042#msg1470042 date=1327475803]
[quote author=Le Chacal link=topic=48420.msg1469725#msg1469725 date=1327415683]
Is it just me or KHL's buddy Agger was at fault on their 3 goals.

Stevie is playing too deep, I'd like to see him play behind the strikers not behind the midfield...
[/quote]

Thats very harsh.

For the first goal Skrtel have to push high to cover the gap the midfield has left open. Enrique doesnt give Agger any help and he is played chessmate by the holes. If he sold himself to early it would have been even easier for them.

The second pretty much same scenario. A very good play by Bolton, but again the CMs are out of position leaving huge gaps for Bolton to play in. Agger cant do much about it.

The third. Well was he late or not? I am not sure. i just know that these fucking chances goes outside the post when we try and inside when our opposition tries. Fuck.
[/quote]

Agger and Johnson could have closed the gap between them for the first goal, instead they both stood off and stood off until it was too late. The back four were a mess, no one was particularly good against Bolton. Again though, they're getting fuck all protection and even when Lucas was playing, I raised the point countless times about the space we were allowing teams infront of the back four. Against Everton we were lucky not to get dry humped for the amount of shots we allowed them around the 18 yard box.
[/quote]

I disagree with you there. Agger couldnt have moved to close that one without leaving the left side wide open. johnson was half distance away, but originally Skrtel should not have been forced to move if the midfield had done their job. The eroor for both goal 1 and 2 was the CMs not covering the spaces they should. That leaves Agger in a impossible position.
[/quote]

I never said it was Agger's fault, if him and Johnson had closed the space between then they'd have had a better chance of blocking the shot, they both did nothing to close down the gap early enough. The midfield left us exposed, Skrtel stepped up to go to the danger and got turned too easily and Agger & Johnson stood off the player for too long. When two defenders are infront of the attacking player and close enough together like they were, they should be closing down the danger and reading the game.
[/quote]

I thought the same when i first saw it. But when I saw the replay at half tiem it was clear to me that Agger was left chessmate by the fact that Skrtle had to make that move. What you suggest is that Agger cover the gap Skrtel left when covering the gap midfield left. And as last man you have to try to stay cool. But done is done.