Someone in this thread racism is to be expected? Who said that Squiggles? I can't see it?
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[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=48180.msg1459151#msg1459151 date=1325964087]
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48180.msg1459148#msg1459148 date=1325963755]
It's pretty well established from players who were in the dressing room with the guy after the game that it was racial, but if people want to wait till signs something in blood then fine, let's hope LFC fans don't then think it means he's fair game for them to have a go at like they have with Evra.
And as long as the proud scousers and the City are alright, it's all good, don't worry about the rest of the 'internstoknal' fan base
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what on earth are you blabbering about? i haven't seen one person say anything other than if the guy made a racist comment then he's a twat who needs banning from the ground.
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Don't worry, we are sitting at home working out how to divide and conquer. I am finding it a tricky conundrum myself.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48180.msg1459148#msg1459148 date=1325963755]
It's pretty well established from players who were in the dressing room with the guy after the game that it was racial, but if people want to wait till signs something in blood then fine, let's hope LFC fans don't then think it means he's fair game for them to have a go at like they have with Evra.
And as long as the proud scousers and the City are alright, it's all good, don't worry about the rest of the 'internstoknal' fan base
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what on earth are you blabbering about? i haven't seen one person say anything other than if the guy made a racist comment then he's a twat who needs banning from the ground.
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Don't worry, we are sitting at home working out how to divide and conquer. I am finding it a tricky conundrum myself.
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48180.msg1459156#msg1459156 date=1325964730]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=48180.msg1459147#msg1459147 date=1325963690]
if a racist is an lfc fan then i'll say it again. how the fuck has that got anything to do with the club? that's the real lesson in perception that people need to learn here.
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So the chants of Suarez were coincidental? I can't recall hearing of an incident like this at Anfield since...? I can't recall. So you think it's a coincidence that this happens now? After the whole Suarez thing?
Okaaaay then. I beg to differ
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apparently most of the kop thought the dude was kicking off about them singing the suarez song which had already started. so they sung it louder. who the fuck knows. who the fuck knows.
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=48180.msg1459147#msg1459147 date=1325963690]
if a racist is an lfc fan then i'll say it again. how the fuck has that got anything to do with the club? that's the real lesson in perception that people need to learn here.
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So the chants of Suarez were coincidental? I can't recall hearing of an incident like this at Anfield since...? I can't recall. So you think it's a coincidence that this happens now? After the whole Suarez thing?
Okaaaay then. I beg to differ
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apparently most of the kop thought the dude was kicking off about them singing the suarez song which had already started. so they sung it louder. who the fuck knows. who the fuck knows.
Who the fuck cares if the Kop were singing Suarez name?
Most probably see it this way:
Did Suarez say negro? - Yes
Did he say it in a racist way? - No
Should he have been informed that using that word in this country could be seen as unacceptable? - Yes
Has he been shit on by the FA? - Yes
If I was there last night, would I have sung his name? - Yes
Am I racist? - No
What do you want the club to do? Ban everyone who shows support for him?
Most probably see it this way:
Did Suarez say negro? - Yes
Did he say it in a racist way? - No
Should he have been informed that using that word in this country could be seen as unacceptable? - Yes
Has he been shit on by the FA? - Yes
If I was there last night, would I have sung his name? - Yes
Am I racist? - No
What do you want the club to do? Ban everyone who shows support for him?
I was there Skully but I missed the initial drama so no ideas what went on. Some say it was someone shouting Manc bastard some say black bastard. I don't which one is true but, if its the latter, he deserves to be banned and procescuted.
Anita, your scousers comment is a bit ridiculous and I've no idea what bearing it has on events. Whilst we're on the subject - do you think it is only ethnic minorities that have suffered discrimination in this country?
Anita, your scousers comment is a bit ridiculous and I've no idea what bearing it has on events. Whilst we're on the subject - do you think it is only ethnic minorities that have suffered discrimination in this country?
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=48180.msg1459162#msg1459162 date=1325965455]
Who the fuck cares if the Kop were singing Suarez name?
Most probably see it this way:
Did Suarez say negro? - Yes
Did he say it in a racist way? - No
Should he have been informed that using that word in this country could be seen as unacceptable? - Yes
Has he been shit on by the FA? - Yes
If I was there last night, would I have sung his name? - Yes
Am I racist? - No
What do you want the club to do? Ban everyone who shows support for him?
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This, exactly this. If I want to support Suarez I absolutely will. I was singing his name and I didn't even see the initial incident going on as I bet thousands of others singing it. So to say it was in reaction to this incident is wrong, or at least partly wrong
Who the fuck cares if the Kop were singing Suarez name?
Most probably see it this way:
Did Suarez say negro? - Yes
Did he say it in a racist way? - No
Should he have been informed that using that word in this country could be seen as unacceptable? - Yes
Has he been shit on by the FA? - Yes
If I was there last night, would I have sung his name? - Yes
Am I racist? - No
What do you want the club to do? Ban everyone who shows support for him?
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This, exactly this. If I want to support Suarez I absolutely will. I was singing his name and I didn't even see the initial incident going on as I bet thousands of others singing it. So to say it was in reaction to this incident is wrong, or at least partly wrong
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=48180.msg1459156#msg1459156 date=1325964730]
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=48180.msg1459147#msg1459147 date=1325963690]
if a racist is an lfc fan then i'll say it again. how the fuck has that got anything to do with the club? that's the real lesson in perception that people need to learn here.
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So the chants of Suarez were coincidental? I can't recall hearing of an incident like this at Anfield since...? I can't recall. So you think it's a coincidence that this happens now? After the whole Suarez thing?
Okaaaay then. I beg to differ
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Peoples individual behaviour can not be controlled by the club only acted upon when the evidence is presented
[quote author=Skullflower link=topic=48180.msg1459147#msg1459147 date=1325963690]
if a racist is an lfc fan then i'll say it again. how the fuck has that got anything to do with the club? that's the real lesson in perception that people need to learn here.
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So the chants of Suarez were coincidental? I can't recall hearing of an incident like this at Anfield since...? I can't recall. So you think it's a coincidence that this happens now? After the whole Suarez thing?
Okaaaay then. I beg to differ
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Peoples individual behaviour can not be controlled by the club only acted upon when the evidence is presented
[quote author=5Times link=topic=48180.msg1459169#msg1459169 date=1325966346]
Some people are coming off as almost wanting this incident to be a racial issue.
Anything to get on your soapbox, I suppose.
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Really? You're kidding me...
Some people are coming off as almost wanting this incident to be a racial issue.
Anything to get on your soapbox, I suppose.
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Really? You're kidding me...
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=48180.msg1459172#msg1459172 date=1325966537]
[quote author=5Times link=topic=48180.msg1459169#msg1459169 date=1325966346]
Some people are coming off as almost wanting this incident to be a racial issue.
Anything to get on your soapbox, I suppose.
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Really? You're kidding me...
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Just my take on it, after reading the thread. And in my first post I meant posters on here, not the public, media, etc
[quote author=5Times link=topic=48180.msg1459169#msg1459169 date=1325966346]
Some people are coming off as almost wanting this incident to be a racial issue.
Anything to get on your soapbox, I suppose.
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Really? You're kidding me...
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Just my take on it, after reading the thread. And in my first post I meant posters on here, not the public, media, etc
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=48180.msg1459165#msg1459165 date=1325966066]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=48180.msg1459162#msg1459162 date=1325965455]
Who the fuck cares if the Kop were singing Suarez name?
Most probably see it this way:
Did Suarez say negro? - Yes
Did he say it in a racist way? - No
Should he have been informed that using that word in this country could be seen as unacceptable? - Yes
Has he been shit on by the FA? - Yes
If I was there last night, would I have sung his name? - Yes
Am I racist? - No
What do you want the club to do? Ban everyone who shows support for him?
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This, exactly this. If I want to support Suarez I absolutely will. I was singing his name and I didn't even see the initial incident going on as I bet thousands of others singing it. So to say it was in reaction to this incident is wrong, or at least partly wrong
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It's not like they were singing "he said it five times, he said it five ti-i-imes, there in the goalmouth, he said it five times"
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=48180.msg1459162#msg1459162 date=1325965455]
Who the fuck cares if the Kop were singing Suarez name?
Most probably see it this way:
Did Suarez say negro? - Yes
Did he say it in a racist way? - No
Should he have been informed that using that word in this country could be seen as unacceptable? - Yes
Has he been shit on by the FA? - Yes
If I was there last night, would I have sung his name? - Yes
Am I racist? - No
What do you want the club to do? Ban everyone who shows support for him?
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This, exactly this. If I want to support Suarez I absolutely will. I was singing his name and I didn't even see the initial incident going on as I bet thousands of others singing it. So to say it was in reaction to this incident is wrong, or at least partly wrong
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It's not like they were singing "he said it five times, he said it five ti-i-imes, there in the goalmouth, he said it five times"
[quote author=5Times link=topic=48180.msg1459173#msg1459173 date=1325966801]
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=48180.msg1459172#msg1459172 date=1325966537]
[quote author=5Times link=topic=48180.msg1459169#msg1459169 date=1325966346]
Some people are coming off as almost wanting this incident to be a racial issue.
Anything to get on your soapbox, I suppose.
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Really? You're kidding me...
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Just my take on it, after reading the thread. And in my first post I meant posters on here, not the public, media, etc
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Sorry I was being sarcastic...
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=48180.msg1459172#msg1459172 date=1325966537]
[quote author=5Times link=topic=48180.msg1459169#msg1459169 date=1325966346]
Some people are coming off as almost wanting this incident to be a racial issue.
Anything to get on your soapbox, I suppose.
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Really? You're kidding me...
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Just my take on it, after reading the thread. And in my first post I meant posters on here, not the public, media, etc
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Sorry I was being sarcastic...
As a Liverpool fan nothing pleases me more than when the club and her fans are accused of being racist and are embroiled in a weekly race row. If it wasn't for shit like this I probably wouldn't get out of bed.
Secretly I actually don't care about how well we play or who we beat, I'm just interested in stirring up shit so I can stand up on my soapbox and tell the world how wrong they are.
Secretly I actually don't care about how well we play or who we beat, I'm just interested in stirring up shit so I can stand up on my soapbox and tell the world how wrong they are.
[quote author=Atlas link=topic=48180.msg1459183#msg1459183 date=1325968351]
As a Liverpool fan nothing pleases me more than when the club and her fans are accused of being racist and are embroiled in a weekly race row. If it wasn't for shit like this I probably wouldn't get out of bed.
Secretly I actually don't care about how well we play or who we beat, I'm just interested in stirring up shit so I can stand up on my soapbox and tell the world how wrong they are.
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Point taken, and I'm not aiming this at any poster in particular, but the amount of time it took people to pull the knives out is unreal. Nothing has been confirmed yet.
As a Liverpool fan nothing pleases me more than when the club and her fans are accused of being racist and are embroiled in a weekly race row. If it wasn't for shit like this I probably wouldn't get out of bed.
Secretly I actually don't care about how well we play or who we beat, I'm just interested in stirring up shit so I can stand up on my soapbox and tell the world how wrong they are.
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Point taken, and I'm not aiming this at any poster in particular, but the amount of time it took people to pull the knives out is unreal. Nothing has been confirmed yet.
Asim, no one knows if yesterdays incident was race related. If I was a betting man I'd probably say it was or something was misheard as such. But Anita has already made her mind up it is.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=48180.msg1459187#msg1459187 date=1325968729]
Asim, no one knows if yesterdays incident was race related. If I was a betting man I'd probably say it was or something was misheard as such. But Anita has already made her mind up it is.
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Can you confirm the dress code for drinkies is white sheets and pointy hats? Trouble is my sheet is off white and I don't want to look out of place.
Asim, no one knows if yesterdays incident was race related. If I was a betting man I'd probably say it was or something was misheard as such. But Anita has already made her mind up it is.
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Can you confirm the dress code for drinkies is white sheets and pointy hats? Trouble is my sheet is off white and I don't want to look out of place.
You'd be better with a pure white one John so as to not arouse suspicion.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=48180.msg1459194#msg1459194 date=1325969205]
You'd be better with a pure white one John so as to not arouse suspicion.
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Good point. Now, will some of my distant Cornish ancestry have any bearing on this?
You'd be better with a pure white one John so as to not arouse suspicion.
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Good point. Now, will some of my distant Cornish ancestry have any bearing on this?
And has someone placed the necessary pieces of four by two inside Heebies? I have a lighter. Best we light the crosses in the courtyard though. Health and safety and all that.
The report (which could've come from anyone, really), has to be approached with caution, though. Look at the setting, 2nd match after the ban, Liverpool fans singing the Suarez song, opposition player(who is of African decent) is getting stick from a small number of said fans, add to that this whole media shitstorm that's been going on for the last month.. It's expected almost, that reports are going to be filed.
We'll have to cut a nose hole in Nessy's hood so he can get a good sniff of hair. Actually, thinking about it he might not be the only one....
Note the word suspicion before demonising anyone or anything.
[quote author=themn link=topic=48180.msg1459225#msg1459225 date=1325973783]
FUCKING RACIST AINTREE BASTARD !!
Red Rum my hole.
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White Rum.
FUCKING RACIST AINTREE BASTARD !!
Red Rum my hole.
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White Rum.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=48180.msg1459236#msg1459236 date=1325974121]
[quote author=themn link=topic=48180.msg1459225#msg1459225 date=1325973783]
FUCKING RACIST AINTREE BASTARD !!
Red Rum my hole.
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White Rum.
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Ah, well, that's ok an' shit.
[quote author=themn link=topic=48180.msg1459225#msg1459225 date=1325973783]
FUCKING RACIST AINTREE BASTARD !!
Red Rum my hole.
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White Rum.
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Ah, well, that's ok an' shit.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=48180.msg1459187#msg1459187 date=1325968729]
Asim, no one knows if yesterdays incident was race related. If I was a betting man I'd probably say it was or something was misheard as such. But Anita has already made her mind up it is.
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Anita will I'm sure speak for herself, but isn't that the whole point of the discussion..If I was putting a bet on this. It's not like it was 2+2 and people came up with 234995959 they were bloody well close to calling it as it was due to some reports on the night, what they saw and heard. Just also on the reports thing it was from a number of sources inc itn news that I saw, not just the mirror or The Lying Rag or the daily mail.
I really can't see a professional players getting so wound up and frustrated unless its something like that. Some people on here are like oh he is a wimp etc cos he got upset. That tends to be something very personal to people and he got upset, some might not but some bloody well do.
Asim, no one knows if yesterdays incident was race related. If I was a betting man I'd probably say it was or something was misheard as such. But Anita has already made her mind up it is.
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Anita will I'm sure speak for herself, but isn't that the whole point of the discussion..If I was putting a bet on this. It's not like it was 2+2 and people came up with 234995959 they were bloody well close to calling it as it was due to some reports on the night, what they saw and heard. Just also on the reports thing it was from a number of sources inc itn news that I saw, not just the mirror or The Lying Rag or the daily mail.
I really can't see a professional players getting so wound up and frustrated unless its something like that. Some people on here are like oh he is a wimp etc cos he got upset. That tends to be something very personal to people and he got upset, some might not but some bloody well do.
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