Gerrard's face after the substitution

[monsieurdantes]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39651.msg1082285#msg1082285 date=1270421118]
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=39651.msg1082284#msg1082284 date=1270420993]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39651.msg1082280#msg1082280 date=1270420877]
apologise for the gerrard rant he is a top player
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fuck you neil. i've never said this before but you're one fucking cocksucker of a poster. fuck you
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oh boo hoo
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you're right. apologise for the rant mate

 

[Terrier]

Fuck me spider divvy, what are you expecting Gerrard to clap our best attacking threat off in a game we desperately needed to win?

If that was me, I would've probably raised a fist at the bench.

Only a perenial loser is gracious in defeat.

 

[Vlads Quiff]

I don't think we should let the Gerrard great captain or not cloud this discussion.
Forget he is the captain, just one of our two most influential players, I know he can be a moany whiny bugger at times, but this is different.


regards

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39651.msg1082289#msg1082289 date=1270421252]
Fuck me spider divvy, what are you expecting Gerrard to clap our best attacking threat off in a game we desperately needed to win?

If that was me, I would've probably raised a fist at the bench.

Only a perenial loser is gracious in defeat.
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I'm not really talking about 'the look' ro-land, this season in a lot of games gerrard has been walking around pretty disinterested,

gerrard is piss off because he is surrounded by mediocrity - I understand that
gerrard feels we should be challenging at the very top - I understand that
gerrard feels there should be more world class players in the team - I understand that

and normally I could look the other way, the problem is gerrard is the CAPTAIN.
someone please tell me what being a captain of the football club should mean, beyond wearing an armband, please I'm curious.

 

[Vlads Quiff]

as I said

 

[monsieurdantes]

it means you're the one who can go to the ref and moan about a decision. so gerrard is the ideal man to fulfil that duty

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=39651.msg1082293#msg1082293 date=1270421516]
I don't think we should let the Gerrard great captain or not cloud this discussion.
Forget he is the captain, just one of our two most influential players, I know he can be a moany whiny bugger at times, but this is different.


regards
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anyway, its too late to strip gerrard of the captaincy now, he'd walk for certain if we did.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=39651.msg1082298#msg1082298 date=1270421885]
it means you're the one who can go to the ref and moan about a decision. so gerrard is the ideal man to fulfil that duty
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like he did v benfica?

 

[Terrier]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39651.msg1082296#msg1082296 date=1270421720]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39651.msg1082289#msg1082289 date=1270421252]
Fuck me spider divvy, what are you expecting Gerrard to clap our best attacking threat off in a game we desperately needed to win?

If that was me, I would've probably raised a fist at the bench.

Only a perenial loser is gracious in defeat.
[/quote]

I'm not really talking about 'the look' ro-land, this season in a lot of games gerrard has been walking around pretty disinterested,

gerrard is piss off because he is surrounded by mediocrity - I understand that
gerrard feels we should be challenging at the very top - I understand that
gerrard feels there should be more world class players in the team - I understand that

and normally I could look the other way, the problem is gerrard is the CAPTAIN.
someone please tell me what being a captain of the football club should mean, beyond wearing an armband, please I'm curious.

[/quote]

I think the pope would shit on Benitez if he'd lost 17 times in a single season.

I refuse to believe you are that oblivious.

 

[monsieurdantes]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39651.msg1082300#msg1082300 date=1270421955]
[quote author=monsieurdantes link=topic=39651.msg1082298#msg1082298 date=1270421885]
it means you're the one who can go to the ref and moan about a decision. so gerrard is the ideal man to fulfil that duty
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like he did v benfica?
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i had wigan in mind. like he did at wigan. this season is a fucking abomination thanks to the moron benitez. but decades from now it is moments like that which i'll look back on and feel happy. gerrard provides lots of those moments so he's a great captain. don't tell me you don't look back at captain fowlers celebration against everton too

 

[spider-Neil]

I don't want this to turn into a gerrard captain argument but like I said, shouldn't being the captain of LFC mean something? being the captain is like a representation of us on the pitch. a romantic notion maybe but look at roy keane for the manc. being a great captain has nothing to do with form as form comes and goes and it should be more than being an inspiration.

maybe gerrard is being a rep of us on the pitch because he is just as bemused by rafa's choices as we are and seems just as pissed off with the mediocrity as we are.
gerrard was a true captain that night in instanbul because despite the poor team selection and the fact we had lost the plot in the first half he practically dragged liverpool back into that game. I wish gerrard was like that EVERY game, a lot to ask maybe but he IS the captain.

 

[ibromurph]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39651.msg1082303#msg1082303 date=1270422706]
I don't want this to turn into a gerrard captain argument but like I said, shouldn't being the captain of LFC mean something? being the captain is like a representation of us on the pitch. a romantic notion maybe but look at roy keane for the manc. being a great captain has nothing to do with form as form comes and goes and it should be more than being an inspiration.

maybe gerrard is being a rep of us on the pitch because he is just as bemused by rafa's choices as we are and seems just as pissed off with the mediocrity as we are.
gerrard was a true captain that night in instanbul because despite the poor team selection and the fact we had lost the plot in the first half he practically dragged liverpool back into that game. I wish gerrard was like that EVERY game, a lot to ask maybe but he IS the captain.
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Sure, a great captain like Keane, who came out in the press and told his own players they were shite and overrated (maybe Stevie needs to do the same with likes of Lucas and Insua?).

I'd be behind that, as it seemed to give the Mancs a kick up the arse as they went on to win some 6+ trophies in the proceeding seasons following Keane's departure.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=39651.msg1082306#msg1082306 date=1270423775]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39651.msg1082303#msg1082303 date=1270422706]
I don't want this to turn into a gerrard captain argument but like I said, shouldn't being the captain of LFC mean something? being the captain is like a representation of us on the pitch. a romantic notion maybe but look at roy keane for the manc. being a great captain has nothing to do with form as form comes and goes and it should be more than being an inspiration.

maybe gerrard is being a rep of us on the pitch because he is just as bemused by rafa's choices as we are and seems just as pissed off with the mediocrity as we are.
gerrard was a true captain that night in instanbul because despite the poor team selection and the fact we had lost the plot in the first half he practically dragged liverpool back into that game. I wish gerrard was like that EVERY game, a lot to ask maybe but he IS the captain.
[/quote]

Sure, a great captain like Keane, who came out in the press and told his own players they were shite and overrated (maybe Stevie needs to do the same with likes of Lucas and Insua?).

I'd be behind that, as it seemed to give the Mancs a kick up the arse as they went on to win some 6+ trophies in the proceeding seasons following Keane's departure.
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ha ha stevie should give it a go

gerrard - 'that lucas is fucking shite and don't get me started on insua'

 

[darkstarexodus]

I can't believe there is even a discussion on whether or not Gerrard was upset by the substitution. Seriously.

Hopefully Stevie will update his autobio soon.

*shakes head, walks away from thread*

 

[Whaddapie]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39651.msg1082296#msg1082296 date=1270421720]

...and normally I could look the other way, the problem is gerrard is the CAPTAIN.
someone please tell me what being a captain of the football club should mean, beyond wearing an armband, please I'm curious.

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It means that he should be trying harder than anybody to win games for LFC. It means he should be driving us towards that last remaining spot in the European Cup next season.

Unfortunately, today HIS OWN FUCKING MANAGER made it harder than necessary for him to accomplish that goal, and, as a player who probaly doesn't expect to be sabotaged in attaining his and LFC's targets by HIS OWN FUCKING MANAGER, he reacted with surprise.

As did ANYBODY who was hoping to see Rafa do everything in his power to help LFC win that game.

 

[zlatan18]

[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=39651.msg1081982#msg1081982 date=1270396377]
I've said it for ages, Gerrard is as sick of Rafa as we are. It's been obvious since last year when we threw it all away in February.
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[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=37070.msg984962#msg984962 date=1257809295]
I can't believe that anyone truly believes sacking Rafa mid-season is the way to go.
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thats what you said back in november, now your sick of benitez? ohh the irony!!

i said it from last year when he fucked up our title chance by selling keane and not replacing him, and funily enough it just shows that even the players are fucked off with him too

 

[zlatan18]

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[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39651.msg1081973#msg1081973 date=1270396280]
Was that a look of "what are you doing you @&$@&$" ??

I remember seeing that face in the last days of Houllier.
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Amazing wasn't it ? Imagine taking an injured player off disgraceful !
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He wasn't injured.
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Just putting an ice pack on his knee for a laugh then ?
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Benitez came out and said he was "tired" so your theory of he was "injured" is just stupid.

Torres didnt want to come off and im sure he could've lasted all game but rafa is just an idiot

 

[DHSC]

As much as I could see why Rafa took Torres off, I wish he didn't because he took off a POTENTIAL MATCH WINNER with nearly 30 mins left.

Madness.

 

[zlatan18]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39651.msg1082274#msg1082274 date=1270420594]
fact is gerrard is the mother fucking CAPTAIN of LFC and I'm fucking sick of his sulking, seriously, that look on his face, so what if you don't agree with it (decision to take off torres) you are the captain that should fucking MEAN something and if it doesn't mean anything then fucking give the armband to someone who DOES give a shit.

a captain shows their worth when the shit has hit the fan and things have gone tits up not when everything is rosey and peachy, if you don't want the responsiblity or think you shouldn't be doing all you can to drag people who are under performing along then give the captaincy to someone who will.

I wonder if souness would sulk and pout if he were surrounded by mediocrity?
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If you expect Gerrard to not give a fuck that in a MUST win match benitez is taking off our best player.. then your a clueless cunt

 

[DHSC]

Fuckin hell zlatan, I know you're pissed and all but you dont have to go around calling everyone a 'cunt''.

 

[zlatan18]

[quote author=DHSC link=topic=39651.msg1082363#msg1082363 date=1270448197]
Fuckin hell zlatan, I know you're pissed and all but you dont have to go around calling everyone a 'cunt''.
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well when someone is obviously clueless, there is no other word to describe them.

No shit im pissed off..

We have a manager who obviously has no clue what he is doing, nor does he give a fuck about our club anymore.

and

We have 2 clueless owners who talk so much shit and should just fuck off back to the US

 

[FoxForceFive]

[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=39651.msg1082365#msg1082365 date=1270448736]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=39651.msg1082363#msg1082363 date=1270448197]
Fuckin hell zlatan, I know you're pissed and all but you dont have to go around calling everyone a 'cunt''.
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well when someone is obviously clueless, there is no other word to describe them.

No shit im pissed off..

We have a manager who obviously has no clue what he is doing, nor does he give a fuck about our club anymore.

and

We have 2 clueless owners who talk so much shit and should just fuck off back to the US
[/quote]

But that doesnt advocate insulting other posters, we're all equally as disillusioned & pissed off as you are but no-one else has simply called other posters cunts.

It'll be a ban next time.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39651.msg1082369#msg1082369 date=1270451081]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=39651.msg1082365#msg1082365 date=1270448736]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=39651.msg1082363#msg1082363 date=1270448197]
Fuckin hell zlatan, I know you're pissed and all but you dont have to go around calling everyone a 'cunt''.
[/quote]

well when someone is obviously clueless, there is no other word to describe them.

No shit im pissed off..

We have a manager who obviously has no clue what he is doing, nor does he give a fuck about our club anymore.

and

We have 2 clueless owners who talk so much shit and should just fuck off back to the US
[/quote]

But that doesnt advocate insulting other posters, we're all equally as disillusioned & pissed off as you are but no-one else has simply called other posters cunts.

It'll be a ban next time.
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yeah, you tell him foxey!

 

[DHSC]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39651.msg1082373#msg1082373 date=1270452388]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39651.msg1082369#msg1082369 date=1270451081]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=39651.msg1082365#msg1082365 date=1270448736]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=39651.msg1082363#msg1082363 date=1270448197]
Fuckin hell zlatan, I know you're pissed and all but you dont have to go around calling everyone a 'cunt''.
[/quote]

well when someone is obviously clueless, there is no other word to describe them.

No shit im pissed off..

We have a manager who obviously has no clue what he is doing, nor does he give a fuck about our club anymore.

and

We have 2 clueless owners who talk so much shit and should just fuck off back to the US
[/quote]

But that doesnt advocate insulting other posters, we're all equally as disillusioned & pissed off as you are but no-one else has simply called other posters cunts.

It'll be a ban next time.
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yeah, you tell him foxey!
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I stood up for you too. Cunt.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=DHSC link=topic=39651.msg1082375#msg1082375 date=1270452652]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39651.msg1082373#msg1082373 date=1270452388]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=39651.msg1082369#msg1082369 date=1270451081]
[quote author=zlatan18 link=topic=39651.msg1082365#msg1082365 date=1270448736]
[quote author=DHSC link=topic=39651.msg1082363#msg1082363 date=1270448197]
Fuckin hell zlatan, I know you're pissed and all but you dont have to go around calling everyone a 'cunt''.
[/quote]

well when someone is obviously clueless, there is no other word to describe them.

No shit im pissed off..

We have a manager who obviously has no clue what he is doing, nor does he give a fuck about our club anymore.

and

We have 2 clueless owners who talk so much shit and should just fuck off back to the US
[/quote]

But that doesnt advocate insulting other posters, we're all equally as disillusioned & pissed off as you are but no-one else has simply called other posters cunts.

It'll be a ban next time.
[/quote]

yeah, you tell him foxey!
[/quote]

I stood up for you too. Cunt.
[/quote]

cheers man 🙂

cunt 😉

 

[Molbystwin]

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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=39651.msg1082095#msg1082095 date=1270401669]
Btw Rafa's interview gave the reason for the Torres substitution as exhaustion.

No injury .

I can't believe anyone (although I expect Ryan to) is defending Rafa.
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He also said he had to put ice on his knee, was that just because he felt like it ?
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Bumps and bruises, they can be played through Krissr and you'd have to figure from Torres' reaction that he felt that too.
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Anywere on the knee that might be sore, is a risk to carry on playing with it, imagine he would of carried on and got injured and out for the season, would people of been happy then, knowing he carried on playing him when he knew it could of put him out for the season ?

Rooney didn't play last week because he was a slight risk of further injury although Feguson said he could of physically played him, just that he didn't want to risk him
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Ok Krissr Benitez got it spot on. It's not like we have the resources to compete with a club like Birmingham anyway.

We should be over the moon with the draw.
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We had just played a massive game on only thursday away in europe with ten men for most of the game of course we are not goin to be at our best, players are gonna be knackered, and also Birmingham are unbeaten at home in the league since September, not exactly an easy team are they ? at home they have drew with Man Utd, Chelsea, Arsenal, Everton, Man City
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Completely agree with you krssr but you are wrong, it was indeed the right tactical decision to take him off but it was a fucking barmy football decision fucking BARMY.

Rafa has got balls of steel when it comes to bad decisions i grant you but to take off your top scorer, your ONLY decent striker and replace him in a fucking absolutely must win game.... it was the absolutely wrong decision.

And having written that that means i am officially not a RCDNWer any more.... that was just fucking boldly fucking shite from Rafa.

 

[Stulikesdrums]

 

[Stulikesdrums]

 

[Terrier]

What do you mean Torres aint injured??

And Stevie G aint miffed, he's just scratching out that dandruff..........right Spider div?

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39651.msg1082552#msg1082552 date=1270487228]
What do you mean Torres aint injured??

And Stevie G aint miffed, he's just scratching out that dandruff..........right Spider div?
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sticks and stones. ohhh spider div...OHH THE PAIN!

ok sigmund, does torres look angry? goes gerrard look angry? incredulous? maybe. bemused? probably, but angry? whatever. and what's torres being injuried got to do with anything? did I say he was injuried?