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Save your time lads, guy knows fuck all.
We're top of the league, top of the Champions League, semis of the league cup, and this nob wants to have a moan.
Example - "wages went up £100m in 2017/18 due to being in Champions League blah blah blah".
Facts:
2016-17 wages £208m
2017-18 wages £264m
Mate, £56m is not £100m. If you think it is, can I have your spare £44m please?
EDIT - @bluebell I know you posted it in good faith mate.

He’s playing into the narrative that bald Irish nob at Anfield Agenda needs to build following.

I’ve made the mistake of watching a few of his videos - he’s awful - apparently FSG are shit, were a laughing stock in the transfer market, the press are all FSG lackeys and we have no ambition at all.

He spends half his shows complaining about journo’s only reporting what their told by the club and how he’s the only one asking the question ls every one really wants to ask and the other half treating everyone Twitter rumour like a major news story that’s not only to be believed, but is proof FSG & Hughes are evil as soon as the rumours don’t result in a new signing.

I’m pretty sure our crazies will be subscribing to this mess.
 
He’s playing into the narrative that bald Irish nob at Anfield Agenda needs to build following.

I’ve made the mistake of watching a few of his videos - he’s awful - apparently FSG are shit, were a laughing stock in the transfer market, the press are all FSG lackeys and we have no ambition at all.

He spends half his shows complaining about journo’s only reporting what their told by the club and how he’s the only one asking the question ls every one really wants to ask and the other half treating everyone Twitter rumour like a major news story that’s not only to be believed, but is proof FSG & Hughes are evil as soon as the rumours don’t result in a new signing.

I’m pretty sure our crazies will be subscribing to this mess.
That pretty much sums up what he said in this vid.
 
That’s what all his vids are - and he has like 300k followers.

We absolutely should have our own podcast - we’d be essential viewing.
I'd pay to listen to pizza recipes, sparkling red wine stories and 45 minute long informational monologues by our resident finance expert, with oblique references to whoosh, quiff and money owed by Barca throughout

If there was an episode dedicated to "how to define world class", someone may even take it seriously ... until they start hearing the content
 
I'd pay to listen to pizza recipes, sparkling red wine stories and 45 minute long informational monologues by our resident finance expert, with oblique references to whoosh, quiff and money owed by Barca throughout

If there was an episode dedicated to "how to define world class", someone may even take it seriously ... until they start hearing the content

I’m looking forward to the episode on the ideal physique of a defensive midfielder.
 
So what you’re saying is, the teams that have won the League for the last 7 years have the lowest net spend - so spending doesn’t guarantee success!!!!!!
City have spent and sold. Arse have spent from being outside top 4 to
So when we needed that DM or CB and we couldn't get one thats a good thing? If we managed contracts better, and sold players as oppose to letting them walk free, just may be we could have at least one more title because we would have the funds to buy players. Klopp has said it couple of times before, "if there was money there, you don't think I would buy players?". FSG have stated from the get go that they will not put any money into the club beyond the stadium redev. The club has to be self funding. However, decisions such as paying off debt early, not allowing the club to borrow money to buy that extra player when every man and his dog could see we needed back up. When we won the league we didn't strengthen the following season even in the Jan window when our whole backline was decimated and we played MFs in defence and eventually on the last day of the window they get a Loanee from Germany and some out of shape Manc fan who didn't make bench. When we needed a CDM, they got that Brazilian who was injured for the first half of the season and couldn't even get a game for the second half.
Right now we have not extended 1 contract.
So come summer and the worse happens, VVD, Trent and Salah walk...Konate and Diaz refuse to sign extensions, what is the club going to do?
Spend £300m?
 
City have spent and sold. Arse have spent from being outside top 4 to
So when we needed that DM or CB and we couldn't get one thats a good thing? If we managed contracts better, and sold players as oppose to letting them walk free, just may be we could have at least one more title because we would have the funds to buy players. Klopp has said it couple of times before, "if there was money there, you don't think I would buy players?". FSG have stated from the get go that they will not put any money into the club beyond the stadium redev. The club has to be self funding. However, decisions such as paying off debt early, not allowing the club to borrow money to buy that extra player when every man and his dog could see we needed back up. When we won the league we didn't strengthen the following season even in the Jan window when our whole backline was decimated and we played MFs in defence and eventually on the last day of the window they get a Loanee from Germany and some out of shape Manc fan who didn't make bench. When we needed a CDM, they got that Brazilian who was injured for the first half of the season and couldn't even get a game for the second half.
Right now we have not extended 1 contract.
So come summer and the worse happens, VVD, Trent and Salah walk...Konate and Diaz refuse to sign extensions, what is the club going to do?
Spend £300m?

You’re obsessed with transfers above everything else- all players are to you are little money pots with legs that run around and need to be cashed in so you can get seemingly the only thing you like - a new transfer.

You know why we offer top players really good salaries? It’s partly because it limits the amount of teams that can afford his wages and therefore willing to pay a fee AND match wages. You know what that means? Yep, selling isn’t as easy as you toting up how much you reckon you’ll be able to spend on a new player.

The level you’ll seemingly go to is getting angry that we aren’t going in to debt at a time when interest rates are high - all just because you don’t have the patience to go a few windows without loads of transfers.

Go through the teams that have spent big on transfers of late - how’s that working out for them? Seriously, go through them - what are all these new players bringing them

We have a pile of youngsters champing at the bit for a chance - good quality youngsters, that have a chance of making it - and you’d rather ignore then just do as you can sign some average player no-one had heard of 5 minutes ago.

You dredge up the season after we won the league as if it was a normal season… not as if there was a global pandemic going on making life all fucking difficult and stuff… oh no… just bad FSG not running up debt buying loads of players while the worlds in lockdown.

Then it’s back to doom-mongering about what’ll happen if Trent, Virgil & Mo leave and Konate & Diaz refuse to sign contracts!!

What do you think we’ll do?

I’d imagine we’ll use (and I’m not going to be as accurate as Besmrider, but I’ll be conservative) the £130m+ in wages it frees up over 3 years to fund some replacements.

Maybe we’ll sell Konate & Diaz, or maybe we’ll use part of that money to offer them the terms that’ll get them to sign for a few more years before whatever happens to them happens (which might be leaving on a free in 5 years time).

That’s kind of what you do when you’re living sustainably within your means.

With you answer is always “BUY BUY BUY!!!” when our much more nuanced approach has actually brought success. That’s not to say there haven’t been missteps or mistakes - but the premise that we only bring in someone if they’re really fucking good, affordable AND wants to come or really fucking young that can be trained and developed the way we want- us a really good fucking system.

Seriously, you have an addiction - you should speak to someone about it - right now you’re gurning about signing players that aren’t available or would spend the rest of the season longing to even make our bench.

We got about 30 players we’ve used this season across all comps - which is about the norm I’d guess, roughly a third of which are there to sit on the bench while trying to not look bored, a third will be used in rotation and to cover injuries and a third will play as often as the sports scientists and their form says they can.

Anyone we sign needs to fit into that final third of playing as much as possible (or at least be capable of doing that in the relatively near future) or what’s the point - it’s just a waste of time, money and effort for the singular purpose of satisfying your sugar rush.
 
We need to monetize Beamrider and Moron. Put them both in the same podcast. Joe Rogan ain't got shit on our guys.

EDIT Also lets put in StevieM who can moderate with lots of puns and Star Wars references. I can go on but the average IQ will dramatically lower and the average looks score will dramatically increase. Bums on seats.
 
We need to monetize Beamrider and Moron. Put them both in the same podcast. Joe Rogan ain't got shit on our guys.

EDIT Also lets put in StevieM who can moderate with lots of puns and Star Wars references. I can go on but the average IQ will dramatically lower and the average looks score will dramatically increase. Bums on seats.

Return Of The Jedi Episode 6 GIF
 
We need to monetize Beamrider and Moron. Put them both in the same podcast. Joe Rogan ain't got shit on our guys.

EDIT Also lets put in StevieM who can moderate with lots of puns and Star Wars references. I can go on but the average IQ will dramatically lower and the average looks score will dramatically increase. Bums on seats.
How do you know I'm not insanely handsome?

I'm not, like, that would be too unfair on everyone else. 🤣
 
You’re obsessed with transfers above everything else- all players are to you are little money pots with legs that run around and need to be cashed in so you can get seemingly the only thing you like - a new transfer.

You know why we offer top players really good salaries? It’s partly because it limits the amount of teams that can afford his wages and therefore willing to pay a fee AND match wages. You know what that means? Yep, selling isn’t as easy as you toting up how much you reckon you’ll be able to spend on a new player.

The level you’ll seemingly go to is getting angry that we aren’t going in to debt at a time when interest rates are high - all just because you don’t have the patience to go a few windows without loads of transfers.

Go through the teams that have spent big on transfers of late - how’s that working out for them? Seriously, go through them - what are all these new players bringing them

We have a pile of youngsters champing at the bit for a chance - good quality youngsters, that have a chance of making it - and you’d rather ignore then just do as you can sign some average player no-one had heard of 5 minutes ago.

You dredge up the season after we won the league as if it was a normal season… not as if there was a global pandemic going on making life all fucking difficult and stuff… oh no… just bad FSG not running up debt buying loads of players while the worlds in lockdown.

Then it’s back to doom-mongering about what’ll happen if Trent, Virgil & Mo leave and Konate & Diaz refuse to sign contracts!!

What do you think we’ll do?

I’d imagine we’ll use (and I’m not going to be as accurate as Besmrider, but I’ll be conservative) the £130m+ in wages it frees up over 3 years to fund some replacements.

Maybe we’ll sell Konate & Diaz, or maybe we’ll use part of that money to offer them the terms that’ll get them to sign for a few more years before whatever happens to them happens (which might be leaving on a free in 5 years time).

That’s kind of what you do when you’re living sustainably within your means.

With you answer is always “BUY BUY BUY!!!” when our much more nuanced approach has actually brought success. That’s not to say there haven’t been missteps or mistakes - but the premise that we only bring in someone if they’re really fucking good, affordable AND wants to come or really fucking young that can be trained and developed the way we want- us a really good fucking system.

Seriously, you have an addiction - you should speak to someone about it - right now you’re gurning about signing players that aren’t available or would spend the rest of the season longing to even make our bench.

We got about 30 players we’ve used this season across all comps - which is about the norm I’d guess, roughly a third of which are there to sit on the bench while trying to not look bored, a third will be used in rotation and to cover injuries and a third will play as often as the sports scientists and their form says they can.

Anyone we sign needs to fit into that final third of playing as much as possible (or at least be capable of doing that in the relatively near future) or what’s the point - it’s just a waste of time, money and effort for the singular purpose of satisfying your sugar rush.
The bold headed genius has said he is happy with the squad... so be it. We will have to wait for his tell all book when he leaves the club of what he really thinks
 
The bold headed genius has said he is happy with the squad... so be it. We will have to wait for his tell all book when he leaves the club of what he really thinks

We’re top of the Premier League having lost only once; top of the Champions League having won every game so far and qualified for last 16 in no lower than 2nd place; we have a 1 goal deficit from the only other game we’ve lost this season, to overturn in the 2nd leg of a League Cup semifinal at home against an injury hit Spurs in freefall and we’re safely in the 4th round of the FA Cup with a favourable draw.

All this and in your mind the manager isn’t happy with the squad because no signings.

Maybe, just maybe, you should consider the possibility that he’s telling the truth.
 
We’re top of the Premier League having lost only once; top of the Champions League having won every game so far and qualified for last 16 in no lower than 2nd place; we have a 1 goal deficit from the only other game we’ve lost this season, to overturn in the 2nd leg of a League Cup semifinal at home against an injury hit Spurs in freefall and we’re safely in the 4th round of the FA Cup with a favourable draw.

All this and in your mind the manager isn’t happy with the squad because no signings.

Maybe, just maybe, you should consider the possibility that he’s telling the truth.
The only table that matters is the one at the end of the season. We were top of the league table this time last year. All I am asking for is a CB. Quansah cannot be relied upon.
 
The only table that matters is the one at the end of the season. We were top of the league table this time last year. All I am asking for is a CB. Quansah cannot be relied upon.

I’d argue that additional signings wouldn’t have made a difference last season either - we were a couple of individual mistakes - mostly misses, from being right in there.

We have 3 CBs covering for 1 spot and Konate will play every important game he’s fit, which could be most of them.

Gomez is back in training.

If Quansah’s called upon and plays a few games beside Virgil - he’ll be fine.

If we have to use Endo… so be it, we’re well stocked in midfield.

We CAN wait till the summer for a CB is we need to.
 
For me, last season if we had some natural finishers in the team we would have won some key games and it would have propelled us forward. Think about that Diaz miss v city. Or that Odegaard handball (another issue).

But anyway. We’re good for now - summer we strengthen
 
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