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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979373#msg979373 date=1257373664]
I guess the lack of post-game threads filled with kneejerk, rage, and bollocks are as a result of most people recognising we were wildly unlucky, yes?[/quote]

I'm too disappointed to be angry. You wrote a good post but this loss could be devastating for the future of our team - financially and player wise. I just hope the football gods show some mercy on us this weekend.
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This much we know. We are out of another challenge. Leaving us with FA and E Cups.

How depressing. How much more bad runs can we stomach...
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We ARE still in with a shout of the league Y. If anything, being knocked out tonight has reinforced my belief that we'll turn it round in the Premiership.
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Wft??
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WTF what?

I'd like to think I give a reasoned argument as to why I think things are going wrong Pat. I don't just moan for the sake of it. Believe it or not, I do actually want us to win things and win things under Rafa. My gut feeling is telling me tonight, in the long run, is going to benefit us.
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Ha the wtf was more so that you think we have a chance at winning the leauge. As Wizardry pointed out I think we will turns things around but ultimately will be 5-10 points away from winning it and people will again be filled with for "Next season".

Trust me I want it just as much as anyone and this season has gone from bad to worse. I really didn't think we would sink this low so soon.

Compare now with this time last year?

Do you really think Rafa can take us to no1 either this season or next?

Fair play if you do. I can't see it for a number reasons that have been poured out over the last few months on this forum.
 
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979488#msg979488 date=1257377591]
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[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979474#msg979474 date=1257376990]
"get the ball in behind, that would have been good enough"

I can't stop typing that.

You couldn't filll a fucking stamp with your knowledge of the game.
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what do you disagree with? you think the backwards and sideways passing is the answer ? you think hoping Babel or Torres pop up with an outrageous goal is a constructive way to win a game?



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I don't disagree with anything Rebel. I'm absolutely mortified how badly I've been owned by you and your Sunday League nous in this thread.
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right ok so your attitude is that there's nothing wrong, we can have Lucas and Masher play well and have games heading for 0-0 all season just as long as they're 'playing well' (in the way you define it) and you're relying on Babel or Torres to score a 30 yard screamer. Forget about actually playing good football, developing some flowing moves or creating clear cut chances


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I'm not engaging with you anymore Rebel. I tried to in the first place, but after me rubbishing your every utterance, you're now just scraping around hopelessly in search of landing upon a point that makes sense. You might get there eventually, but I won't be around to find out.
 
you know what was hilarious? seeing Lyon players do backheels and flicks round our box, I just KNEW they would create something (I thought we'd lose the game 1-0)

people can slate the defence - with the greek and a teenager in it it's not up to standard - but what about the attacking side of our game, it's just not good enough either. The truth is we should have stuck more than one 30 yard screamer past them and that's my point.
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979498#msg979498 date=1257378163]
you know what was hilarious? seeing Lyon players do backheels and flicks round our box, I just KNEW they would create something (I thought we'd lose the game 1-0)

people can slate the defence - with the greek and a teenager in it it's not up to standard - but what about the attacking side of our game, it's just not good enough either. The truth is we should have stuck more than one 30 yard screamer past them and that's my point.


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"that's my point"

'Not all my other points, this one, this point. We definitely shouldn't have had to rely on 30 yard screamers. Ignore all my other points about long ball tactics, getting it in behind, Lyon having more injuries, Aquilani coming on to score a 2nd when it was 0-0, this is the real quiz. If I can throw this shoe over the bar, then I've won, we've won, and that's the final thing, and that's the real quiz, alright? Ok?'
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36949.msg979495#msg979495 date=1257378022]

Do you really think Rafa can take us to no1 either this season or next?

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No. But I'm a Liverpool supporter and therefore believe in divine intervention.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979506#msg979506 date=1257378500]
'FRAY BENTOS!'
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That was a death move.
 
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[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979492#msg979492 date=1257377799]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979488#msg979488 date=1257377591]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979480#msg979480 date=1257377202]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979474#msg979474 date=1257376990]
"get the ball in behind, that would have been good enough"

I can't stop typing that.

You couldn't filll a fucking stamp with your knowledge of the game.
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what do you disagree with? you think the backwards and sideways passing is the answer ? you think hoping Babel or Torres pop up with an outrageous goal is a constructive way to win a game?



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I don't disagree with anything Rebel. I'm absolutely mortified how badly I've been owned by you and your Sunday League nous in this thread.
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right ok so your attitude is that there's nothing wrong, we can have Lucas and Masher play well and have games heading for 0-0 all season just as long as they're 'playing well' (in the way you define it) and you're relying on Babel or Torres to score a 30 yard screamer. Forget about actually playing good football, developing some flowing moves or creating clear cut chances


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I'm not engaging with you anymore Rebel. I tried to in the first place, but after me rubbishing your every utterance, you're now just scraping around hopelessly in search of landing upon a point that makes sense. You might get there eventually, but I won't be around to find out.
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you wont engage because you lose the argument. It's all well and good Lucas and Masher keeping the ball and executing 5 yard passes which is what we all expect them to do rather than say, run with the ball at the opposition and play it forward occasionally as opposed to wanting to involve Reina in the game

We controlled the game but it was slow and wimpish as per usual , it was heading for 0-0 until a ridiculous goal that comes once every blue moon. it's this sort of play and style that has seen us lose so many games this season.
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36949.msg979495#msg979495 date=1257378022]

Do you really think Rafa can take us to no1 either this season or next?

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No. But I'm a Liverpool supporter and therefore believe in divine intervention.
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Ha ha. He helped us in 2005 and 2006 we can't keep asking.

And where was this Liam for the last 2 years?
 
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979509#msg979509 date=1257378566]

you wont engage because you lose the argument. It's all well and good Lucas and Masher keeping the ball and executing 5 yard passes which is what we all expect them to do rather than say, run with the ball at the opposition and play it forward occasionally as opposed to wanting to involve Reina in the game

We controlled the game but it was slow and wimpish as per usual , it was heading for 0-0 until a ridiculous goal that comes once every blue moon. it's this sort of play and style that has seen us lose so many games this season.
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Rebel.

Are you now admitting that your 'Lucas is boss cos like he has a 93.46% pass success rate' was a load of fucking shite because all he does is pass it 5 yards. Sideways.?
 
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[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36949.msg979495#msg979495 date=1257378022]

Do you really think Rafa can take us to no1 either this season or next?

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No. But I'm a Liverpool supporter and therefore believe in divine intervention.
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Ha ha. He helped us in 2005 and 2006 we can't keep asking.

And where was this Liam for the last 2 years?
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Being a mod.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=36949.msg979507#msg979507 date=1257378500]
Hey Dreambeliever,

Have you considered changing your screen name ?

Seriously.
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Nah. I still think we can win the league just not under Rafa.

He's given me my best LFC memories but sadly I can't see him getting us over the line. We are probably stuck with him for another 2 years at least unless we get a rich buyer.

Who knows maybe he can pull a rabit out of his hat next season.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979513#msg979513 date=1257378769]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979509#msg979509 date=1257378566]

you wont engage because you lose the argument. It's all well and good Lucas and Masher keeping the ball and executing 5 yard passes which is what we all expect them to do rather than say, run with the ball at the opposition and play it forward occasionally as opposed to wanting to involve Reina in the game

We controlled the game but it was slow and wimpish as per usual , it was heading for 0-0 until a ridiculous goal that comes once every blue moon. it's this sort of play and style that has seen us lose so many games this season.
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Rebel.

Are you now admitting that your 'Lucas is boss cos like he has a 93.46% pass success rate' was a load of fucking shite because all he does is pass it 5 yards. Sideways.?
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What's black and slides down Nelson's column?
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36949.msg979516#msg979516 date=1257378836]
[quote author=themn link=topic=36949.msg979507#msg979507 date=1257378500]
Hey Dreambeliever,

Have you considered changing your screen name ?

Seriously.
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Nah. I still think we can win the league just not under Rafa.

He's given me my best LFC memories but sadly I can't see him getting us over the line. We are probably stuck with him for another 2 years at least unless we get a rich buyer.

Who knows maybe he can pull a rabit out of his hat next season.



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Doesn't sound like much belief in dreams there.
 
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36949.msg979516#msg979516 date=1257378836]
[quote author=themn link=topic=36949.msg979507#msg979507 date=1257378500]
Hey Dreambeliever,

Have you considered changing your screen name ?

Seriously.
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I can't see him getting us over the line.

Who knows maybe he can pull a rabit out of his hat next season.

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Thank God you've stopped using those cringeworthy cliches anyway.
 
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979513#msg979513 date=1257378769]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979509#msg979509 date=1257378566]

you wont engage because you lose the argument. It's all well and good Lucas and Masher keeping the ball and executing 5 yard passes which is what we all expect them to do rather than say, run with the ball at the opposition and play it forward occasionally as opposed to wanting to involve Reina in the game

We controlled the game but it was slow and wimpish as per usual , it was heading for 0-0 until a ridiculous goal that comes once every blue moon. it's this sort of play and style that has seen us lose so many games this season.
[/quote]

Rebel.

Are you now admitting that your 'Lucas is boss cos like he has a 93.46% pass success rate' was a load of fucking shite because all he does is pass it 5 yards. Sideways.?
[/quote]

What's black and slides down Nelson's column?
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A Father For Justice dressed in a Spiderman Venom costume?
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979518#msg979518 date=1257378897]
Does a rabit only have one ear?
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It's a game of two halves really.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979520#msg979520 date=1257378942]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36949.msg979516#msg979516 date=1257378836]
[quote author=themn link=topic=36949.msg979507#msg979507 date=1257378500]
Hey Dreambeliever,

Have you considered changing your screen name ?

Seriously.
[/quote]

I can't see him getting us over the line.

Who knows maybe he can pull a rabit out of his hat next season.

[/quote]

Thank God you've stopped using those cringeworthy cliches anyway.
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Fine lines and all that!
 
What is it now... 7 losses out of 8 games or something like that? Sure, we can put a brave face on it, look at the positives and the difficult circumstances we find ourselves in, but I'm a little fed up of doing that at this point.

We shouldn't have conceded the sloppy goals we did at Anfield, we shouldn't have conceded that sloppy goal tonight and we shouldn't be going out of the CL. You can put it down to luck, fine lines or whatever, but the bottom line isn't going to change.

That's not to say I want to start flooding the forum with kneejerk posts, but ya'know, really not feeling the "hey, it's not so bad really" vibe. At all.
 
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979513#msg979513 date=1257378769]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979509#msg979509 date=1257378566]

you wont engage because you lose the argument. It's all well and good Lucas and Masher keeping the ball and executing 5 yard passes which is what we all expect them to do rather than say, run with the ball at the opposition and play it forward occasionally as opposed to wanting to involve Reina in the game

We controlled the game but it was slow and wimpish as per usual , it was heading for 0-0 until a ridiculous goal that comes once every blue moon. it's this sort of play and style that has seen us lose so many games this season.
[/quote]

Rebel.

Are you now admitting that your 'Lucas is boss cos like he has a 93.46% pass success rate' was a load of fucking shite because all he does is pass it 5 yards. Sideways.?
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What's black and slides down Nelson's column?
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A African lady enjoying herself?
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979521#msg979521 date=1257378953]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg979517#msg979517 date=1257378861]
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979513#msg979513 date=1257378769]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979509#msg979509 date=1257378566]

you wont engage because you lose the argument. It's all well and good Lucas and Masher keeping the ball and executing 5 yard passes which is what we all expect them to do rather than say, run with the ball at the opposition and play it forward occasionally as opposed to wanting to involve Reina in the game

We controlled the game but it was slow and wimpish as per usual , it was heading for 0-0 until a ridiculous goal that comes once every blue moon. it's this sort of play and style that has seen us lose so many games this season.
[/quote]

Rebel.

Are you now admitting that your 'Lucas is boss cos like he has a 93.46% pass success rate' was a load of fucking shite because all he does is pass it 5 yards. Sideways.?
[/quote]

What's black and slides down Nelson's column?
[/quote]

A Father For Justice dressed in a Spiderman Venom costume?
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Ooooh... contro-versial. Anyway, do you like my dog?
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979518#msg979518 date=1257378897]
Does a rabit only have one ear?
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Ha ha maybe the league does.
 
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=36949.msg979513#msg979513 date=1257378769]
[quote author=rebel23 link=topic=36949.msg979509#msg979509 date=1257378566]

you wont engage because you lose the argument. It's all well and good Lucas and Masher keeping the ball and executing 5 yard passes which is what we all expect them to do rather than say, run with the ball at the opposition and play it forward occasionally as opposed to wanting to involve Reina in the game

We controlled the game but it was slow and wimpish as per usual , it was heading for 0-0 until a ridiculous goal that comes once every blue moon. it's this sort of play and style that has seen us lose so many games this season.
[/quote]

Rebel.

Are you now admitting that your 'Lucas is boss cos like he has a 93.46% pass success rate' was a load of fucking shite because all he does is pass it 5 yards. Sideways.?
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he tries his best but he is limited in that regard, passing forwards anyway. it doesnt mean he's shit. he's good enough for a squad player and is developing but I really wanted to see Aquilani get some minutes tonight because I truly believe if he came on we might have had it wrapped up

it's not just Lucas though, there's Kuyt with his touch and seeing the ball bounce away that annoys me and Benayoun who is frustrating and holds on to the ball too long. They need to flow and interchange better and that's the key.
 
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