Fine Lines

[the_khl]

Agger's easily the best passer of the ball in the backline.

I know a few of the prominent posters on here has been ridiculing his abilities as some sort of 'counter'argument' to the ones who think he should be a definite starter. But the fact is, he offers a lot more than any other central defender in our squad whether you like it or not - amongst other abilities his eye for the long defense-shredding pass.

That said most of his passes in the Lyon game was rather awful, but he was obviously struggling along the rest of the team to create anything as most of our players were extremely stationary, and then he got a little desperate.

He was however defending rather well and besides their rather lucky goal they almost didn't get a sniff thoughout the game. Very much as the case was in the United game. If anyone still questions his impact they are certainly refusing to see the obvious. Agger is probably our best defender overall and should therefore play every game he's fit

All 10 games a year.

*Fingers crossed his back injuries are now left behind for good as he's such an important figure in our side. And the only one capable of turning defense into attack on a more regular basis. That's rather obvious.

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

If he stays injury free then he plays for me. That is a big IF though, unfortunately.

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=36949.msg980934#msg980934 date=1257507322]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg980724#msg980724 date=1257482666]
Here, I'll help you out:

Torres WORLDY
Benayoun CRACKING
Kuyt CRACKING
Babel SHITE
Ngog SHITE
Gerrard WORLDY
Johnson CRACKING
Insua OK
Ayala ERM
Riera OK
Carragher OK
Reina WORLDY
Kelly ERM
Kyrgiakos SHITE
Mascherano WORLDY
Degen OK
Plessis SHITE
Cavalieri OK
Skrtel OK
Aquilani CRACKING
Voronin SHITE
Spearing SHITE
Agger CRACKING
Aurelio OK
Lucas OK

That's all the palyers who have played for us this season. List the "60% that are fucking dreadful".

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I'd wait before putting cracking besides aqualini.

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

I think he means his ankle is cracking. And his knee.

 

[Oncy]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36949.msg980958#msg980958 date=1257508754]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=36949.msg980934#msg980934 date=1257507322]
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=36949.msg980724#msg980724 date=1257482666]
Here, I'll help you out:

Torres WORLDY
Benayoun CRACKING
Kuyt CRACKING
Babel SHITE
Ngog SHITE
Gerrard WORLDY
Johnson CRACKING
Insua OK
Ayala ERM
Riera OK
Carragher OK
Reina WORLDY
Kelly ERM
Kyrgiakos SHITE
Mascherano WORLDY
Degen OK
Plessis SHITE
Cavalieri OK
Skrtel OK
Aquilani CRACKING
Voronin SHITE
Spearing SHITE
Agger CRACKING
Aurelio OK
Lucas OK

That's all the palyers who have played for us this season. List the "60% that are fucking dreadful".

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I'd wait before putting cracking besides aqualini.
[/quote]Why? Ive seen him play dozens of times. I know how good he is.

 

[Dreambeliever]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=36949.msg980809#msg980809 date=1257498119]
I can't be arsed reading the whole thread but we weren't unlucky. We were wasteful and guilty of poor finishing. That's not down to luck it's down to having shit players. The only piece of poor luck we had was the keepers save from Lucas.
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In a nutshell right there.

 

[Dreambeliever]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36949.msg980921#msg980921 date=1257506389]
sure we can run down the list of players and put - 'fucking SHITE' besides their names but that same group of players (plus alonso and sami/minus of aqualini and johnson) secured second place in the league just last season. how was that achieved?

a) the rest of the league were rubbish
b) the players aren't as bad as suggested
c) the team was carried by alonso, gerrard and torres (the latter two being injuried for periods in the season).
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Alonso's role was key so ya replacing a great passer with Lucas was the first of many mistakes this sesaon.

 

[the_khl]

[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36949.msg981018#msg981018 date=1257512926]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36949.msg980921#msg980921 date=1257506389]
sure we can run down the list of players and put - 'fucking SHITE' besides their names but that same group of players (plus alonso and sami/minus of aqualini and johnson) secured second place in the league just last season. how was that achieved?

a) the rest of the league were rubbish
b) the players aren't as bad as suggested
c) the team was carried by alonso, gerrard and torres (the latter two being injuried for periods in the season).
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Alonso's role was key so ya replacing a great passer with Lucas was the first of many mistakes this sesaon.
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We did however still manage to draw shitloads with Alonso playing.

 

[rebel23]

[quote author=Sunny link=topic=36949.msg980809#msg980809 date=1257498119]
I can't be arsed reading the whole thread but we weren't unlucky. We were wasteful and guilty of poor finishing. That's not down to luck it's down to having shit players. The only piece of poor luck we had was the keepers save from Lucas.
[/quote]

it was nice to see him pop in the box and have a shot, he's learning and should be told to do it more. I wonder why he never picks it up and has a crack, he has the ability but is either afraid or is told not to. Mascherano often has a crack despite being rubbish at it

 

[Dreambeliever]

[quote author=the_khl link=topic=36949.msg981056#msg981056 date=1257515262]
[quote author=Dreambeliever link=topic=36949.msg981018#msg981018 date=1257512926]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=36949.msg980921#msg980921 date=1257506389]
sure we can run down the list of players and put - 'fucking SHITE' besides their names but that same group of players (plus alonso and sami/minus of aqualini and johnson) secured second place in the league just last season. how was that achieved?

a) the rest of the league were rubbish
b) the players aren't as bad as suggested
c) the team was carried by alonso, gerrard and torres (the latter two being injuried for periods in the season).
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Alonso's role was key so ya replacing a great passer with Lucas was the first of many mistakes this sesaon.
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We did however still manage to draw shitloads with Alonso playing.
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Indeed, but we were very hard to beat. Not so anymore. I said it last season and this. We needed either real pace out wide or another world beater up front. We got Keane and even though he'e no world beater if he had been backed and played in a 442 week in week out we could have done it.

Rafa didn't think so and instead we came up short in the final creative third.