Fake Carragher

[kingjulian]

I'd Dirk Kuyt, Kenny or Gerrard say something on this after reflection I'll take their option seriously.

I have lately been thinking Carra is a weapons grade cunt and has vacuum between the ears. Many said he would have been a better captain and would go on to be a better manager than Gerrard. Whilst Gerrard is no saint and has shown he can be a thick cunt on occasions...he is far better than Carra in pretty much everything meaningful I think.

 

[kingjulian]

Rio Ferdinand now wants Liverpool to apologise.
I'm glad Rio has never been involved in any racist incidents or any other cheating(like drugs or marital infidelities) so he is entitled to take the moral high ground against us.

I can see where this is going over the rest of the season.

 

[juniormember]

I'd Dirk Kuyt, Kenny or Gerrard say something on this after reflection I'll take their option seriously.

I have lately been thinking Carra is a weapons grade cunt and has vacuum between the ears. Many said he would have been a better captain and would go on to be a better manager than Gerrard. Whilst Gerrard is no saint and has shown he can be a thick cunt on occasions...he is far better than Carra in pretty much everything meaningful I think.

Look at the way Carra constantly pauses mid-sentence, to then either continue that very sentence or completely change topic. I think he’s pretty thick.

 

[Halmeister]

You misread my post completely to make a rubbish point. Not only have I not said what you claim I did, I specifically used an example that corroborates what I said.

The fake news was all about the word "negrito" , despite it never being mentioned once by any one involved in the dispute.

The fake news also said he called him a negro. I specifically remember it on Sky Sports News. He never. They were speaking Spanish. He called him black. You said he used the word "negro" without clarifying that they were talking Spanish - which as I pointed is a huge difference. People saw/see the word negro and assume it was used as the English racial slur. It wasn't. That's all I'm pointing out.

I'm not defending him as there was absolutely no need to bring colour into it, I'm just saying he didn't call him "a negro" as many people have been led to believe.

 

[StevieM]

If Dantes is certain that Suarez wasn’t being racist, that’s enough confirmation for me.

Suarez is definitely a racist!!!

 

[RedStar]

Why do people think that Evras ridiculous carry on with the French squad has any bearing on this. It doesnt. Its a simple attempt to deflect blame, it isnt relevant what so ever.

The T shirt thing was cringeworthy, it was obvious at the time and its painfully clear now. So there is something to be respected about Carra admitting it.

 

[dantes]

The fake news also said he called him a negro. I specifically remember it on Sky Sports News. He never. They were speaking Spanish. He called him black. You said he used the word "negro" without clarifying that they were talking Spanish - which as I pointed is a huge difference. People saw/see the word negro and assume it was used as the English racial slur. It wasn't. That's all I'm pointing out.

I'm not defending him as there was absolutely no need to bring colour into it, I'm just saying he didn't call him "a negro" as many people have been led to believe.

Nor can I defend you for bringing gender into it. Check your disgusting sexism at the door next time, or I will report your post and request a ban.

 

[KopRed]

He tried to downplay the handshake saga and pretend to be all moral highground with his mama story and all when back then he was the aggressor, grabbing Suarez when Suarez flatly refused to shake his hand.

Cunt.

 

[Rosco]

The fake news also said he called him a negro. I specifically remember it on Sky Sports News. He never. They were speaking Spanish. He called him black. You said he used the word "negro" without clarifying that they were talking Spanish - which as I pointed is a huge difference. People saw/see the word negro and assume it was used as the English racial slur. It wasn't. That's all I'm pointing out.

I'm not defending him as there was absolutely no need to bring colour into it, I'm just saying he didn't call him "a negro" as many people have been led to believe.

No you said that I indicated he called him "a negro" , which I clearly didn't do. My example was in English , and I said Suarez told the ref that he said he kicked him because he was black.

I have zero recollection of anyone claiming Suarez called him a negro , it was clear he was using the word black. But sure Suarez even later denied using black at all.

The people like Judgejules who support Suarez have never engaged with the fact that Suarez and Evra had a row throughout which Suarez was referring to Evra's skin colour. If you want to leave yourself open to accusations of racist abuse that seems like a good way to do it.

 

[Insignificance]

Why do people think that Evras ridiculous carry on with the French squad has any bearing on this. It doesnt. Its a simple attempt to deflect blame, it isnt relevant what so ever.

The T shirt thing was cringeworthy, it was obvious at the time and its painfully clear now. So there is something to be respected about Carra admitting it.

Somehow I assume the French supporters who spent their hard earned money on following their team in South African had appreciated if Evra put on a t-shirt supporting his mate Anelka instead of leading a revolt resulting one of the favourotes being out of the tournament before it started?

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Rio Ferdinand now wants Liverpool to apologise.
I'm glad Rio has never been involved in any racist incidents or any other cheating(like drugs or marital infidelities) so he is entitled to take the moral high ground against us.

We should only apologize when we win the league.

 

[doctor_mac]

When you’re caught spitting out the window like an animal i suppose you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do.

honestly though Suarez could have shit in my cornflakes at the time and i would have eaten them, that’s enough to explain the Tshirts

It turns the milk 'chocolatey'!

 

[dantes]

No you said that I indicated he called him "a negro" , which I clearly didn't do. My example was in English , and I said Suarez told the ref that he said he kicked him because he was black.

I have zero recollection of anyone claiming Suarez called him a negro , it was clear he was using the word black. But sure Suarez even later denied using black at all.

The people like Judgejules who support Suarez have never engaged with the fact that Suarez and Evra had a row throughout which Suarez was referring to Evra's skin colour. If you want to leave yourself open to accusations of racist abuse that seems like a good way to do it.

What the fuck are you talking about? Evra told the FA that is what Suarez said, after having complained to the ref with the other cunt of a manager of his that he had been called "nigger" five times. It is absolutely not what Suarez told the FA he said. The investigation interviews in which Evra gave his versions were not disclosed until the hearing itself, where the panel stenographer did a quick transcription, handed it to our lawyer an hour or so "in advance" of Evra's cross-examination, as you do. What Suarez claimed happened was available to the FA in his response to the charge, giving them weeks to go over it and decide a strategy to interrogate him. The panel decided to believe Evra because he did better under cross-examination than Suarez (through his interpreter) did.

Don't be fake news.

 

[Dreambeliever]

What the fuck are you talking about? Evra told the FA that is what Suarez said, after having complained to the ref with the other cunt of a manager of his that he had been called "nigger" five times. It is absolutely not what Suarez told the FA he said. The investigation interviews in which Evra gave his versions were not disclosed until the hearing itself, where the panel stenographer did a quick transcription, handed it to our lawyer an hour or so "in advance" of Evra's cross-examination, as you do. What Suarez claimed happened was available to the FA in his response to the charge, giving them weeks to go over it and decide a strategy to interrogate him. The panel decided to believe Evra because he did better under cross-examination than Suarez (through his interpreter) did.

Don't be fake news.

Ha Jesus

 

[737Max]

All it needed was for our lawyer to ask Evra how he felt about the N word, had he ever used the N word and then when Evra said it was abhorrent and disgraceful just play the youtube video of him using the n word. Case closed.

Oh and Evra is a cunt

 

[LeTallecWiz]

This subject tires me.

 

[dantes]

All it needed was for our lawyer to ask Evra how he felt about the N word, had he ever used the N word and then when Evra said it was abhorrent and disgraceful just play the youtube video of him using the n word. Case closed.

Oh and Evra is a cunt

Perhaps if he had the transcript a bit earlier then he could have obtained the clip and submitted it into evidence, or cross referenced what Evra claimed in the interview with what others said, and then called them all in for cross-examination to test his version. Alas to do all of that on the fly on the day of the hearing is beyond even me, let alone the retarded fuckwit we appointed to represent Suarez.

[article]
Canal+ ran a documentary called “Le Periple Rouge” (the “Red’s Journey”), which chronicled Monaco’s journey to the Champions League final back in 2004.
As part of the hour long film, one out-of-context clip catches Patrice Evra ranting as if he had turrets ahead of the Principality’s semi-final with Chelsea.
Evra is filmed calling Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink a “mother-fucker,” telling Frank Lampard to “suck my pussy!” while slamming Chelsea at large as “mother-fucker niggers!”
[/article]

 

[Judge Jules]

What the fuck are you talking about? Evra told the FA that is what Suarez said, after having complained to the ref with the other cunt of a manager of his that he had been called "nigger" five times. It is absolutely not what Suarez told the FA he said. The investigation interviews in which Evra gave his versions were not disclosed until the hearing itself, where the panel stenographer did a quick transcription, handed it to our lawyer an hour or so "in advance" of Evra's cross-examination, as you do. What Suarez claimed happened was available to the FA in his response to the charge, giving them weeks to go over it and decide a strategy to interrogate him. The panel decided to believe Evra because he did better under cross-examination than Suarez (through his interpreter) did.

Don't be fake news.

It's hardly surprising that Evra performed better. In addition to being a practised liar he wasn't facing a leading barrister (the guy who represented the Police Federation at the rerun Hillsborough inquests and again at Duckenfield's trial recently). The fact that the FA wheeled out such a big gun is further evidence in itself that they were out to get Suarez from the off. Whether Suarez was culpable or not, the process which holds a player to account in such circs.has to be even-handed. This one patently wasn't.

 

[darkstarexodus]

[article]
Canal+ ran a documentary called “Le Periple Rouge” (the “Red’s Journey”), which chronicled Monaco’s journey to the Champions League final back in 2004.
As part of the hour long film, one out-of-context clip catches Patrice Evra ranting as if he had turrets ahead of the Principality’s semi-final with Chelsea.
Evra is filmed calling Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink a “mother-fucker,” telling Frank Lampard to “suck my pussy!” while slamming Chelsea at large as “mother-fucker niggers!”
[/article]

Evra has turrets????

 

[Athens]

Evra has turrets????

It's Turrets syndrome he has.

That means he thinks he's a castle.

 

[manwithnoname]

Ohhhhh....... Tourette's!

Fucking hell, some people shouldn't be allowed to speak, talk or write.

 

[Farkmaster]

I can't believe how much you all remember about this case. It's two people who are very good at kicking a ball in some drumhead trial organized by a bunch of old fat white men with sweet sinecures.

 

[dantes]

Ohhhhh....... Tourette's!

Fucking hell, some people shouldn't be allowed to speak, talk or write.

Benjamin Newman. Co-founded 101 Great Goals. Football, internet, social media lover. Crystal Palace fan.

 

[manwithnoname]

Benjamin Newman. Co-founded 101 Great Goals. Football, internet, social media lover. Crystal Palace fan.

Oh fuck me.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

Oh fuck me.

I know him and the other dude (I'm playing footy with him tonight actually)

 

[Farkmaster]

I know him and the other dude (I'm playing footy with him tonight actually)

 

[Atlas]

I can't believe how much you all remember about this case. It's two people who are very good at kicking a ball in some drumhead trial organized by a bunch of old fat white men with sweet sinecures.

It's always the fat old while men's fault

 

[Rosco]

What the fuck are you talking about? Evra told the FA that is what Suarez said, after having complained to the ref with the other cunt of a manager of his that he had been called "nigger" five times. It is absolutely not what Suarez told the FA he said. The investigation interviews in which Evra gave his versions were not disclosed until the hearing itself, where the panel stenographer did a quick transcription, handed it to our lawyer an hour or so "in advance" of Evra's cross-examination, as you do. What Suarez claimed happened was available to the FA in his response to the charge, giving them weeks to go over it and decide a strategy to interrogate him. The panel decided to believe Evra because he did better under cross-examination than Suarez (through his interpreter) did.

Don't be fake news.

It is at this point in his witness statement, having referred to these incidents, that Mr Suárez said: "It seems to me that PE misunderstood my use of the word negro. As I have said, it was meant in a conciliatory and friendly way in the context in which I have used the word throughout my life and as set out earlier in this Statement."

Don't be a fucking idiot.


So can I ask again - in the context of the argument that Evra and Suarez were having , isn't referencing skin colour a little bit problematic ?

Isn't admitting to using it also problematic ?

And then when you change your evidence at the hearing to say you never said the word negro , when Damien Commolli and Dirk Kutt have corroborated the fact that you used the word negro, well that's a little bit problematic too.

None of the Suarez's supporters will ever acknowledge any aspect of this because they haven't for about seven years at this stage.

It's really a very simple issue. Can you refer to someone's skin colour in an argument ?

Nobody can say yes to that , so instead they'll attempt to claim it never happened, that the only evidence is from Evra who lied previously and that there was something untoward about the process. All of which is untrue.

Had any of it been true Suarez could have easily won a judicial review of the decision. He never sought to do so.

Case closed.

 

[LeTallecWiz]

me? Nah, I always go a bit harder ...

 

[Ukrainian by marriage]

It's really a very simple issue. Can you refer to someone's skin colour in an argument ?

Only if they're old, fat, and white, apparently.