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The thing I like best about the signing is the pace and athleticism he'll bring to our midfield, something I think we lacked last season.
 
irishred said:
That's pretty much were I stand, his videos weren't impressive at all, so I've yet to be convinced. When people talk about his qualities and his versatility comes out time and time again as his best asset, the warning bells begin to reverberate. Germany have in recent years been placing their trust in youth and he's not even had a cap yet. But let's hope he's been well scouted and my initial judgement is wrong (In Rodgers We Trust). He has been schooled the Bayern Munich way and that fact that Leverkusen`s sporting director (I think) was pissed, should reassure us. If it's a case of buying for the future, I'd prefer we utilised Rossiter, who seems a far better prospect and hasn't looked out of place at every level he's stepped up to. And with the £10m bought a 25 or 26 year old who is currently much better than we already have or went all out and recruited a prodigious talent like Pogba.
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awfully good Post. I hope you're wrong about Can but I doubt you are.
 
Frogfish said:
Emre Can is “average” and “won’t improve Liverpool” according to Jan Aage Fjortoft, the former Premier League striker turned German TV pundit has been telling Sky Sports News Radio Can is a poor signing by Brendan Rodgers.
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I heard somebody tell SkySports that Benitez had over-estimated Fernando Torres's ability by paying so much. Look how that turned out.
 
Torres was a decent prospect when he signed but he became world class. I hope this analogy holds true

Oh and doesn't he have a ton of age caps u17/18 etc and the national team is next
 
He looks to have a good passing range and plenty of composure. He'll be an upgrade on Lucas for covering Gerrard. Looks good for £9m to me
 
Until he came to us, the most Torres had scored in a season, I think was 15 and he had been playing since his late teens. The reporter who expressed skepticism but that was my point.
 
Torres himself has publicly acknowledged the part that Stevie G played in his, er, explosion on to the scene with us. TBF Rafa clearly had that combo in mind.
 
Looking at Germanys midfield, I dont think I'll hold it against him that he hasnt got an international cap yet.
 
I'd say the lad has given his chances of improving as a player a boost by being selected and then shortly to be tutored by Brendan Rodgers, who seems to have a knack of getting the best out of most individuals.

I know little of the players career to date but I wish him well, I think he'll have to work hard to get a regular place.
 
The kid just turned 20. And he has some evidently outstanding attributes - a great physique, pace and good technique to boot. What's not to like?

He's hardly going to be the finished article - this is a Henderson and Coutinho type signing - a young player with vast potential. And we've got him for just 9.5 million. Given Rodgers ability to develop youngsters, we could have a gem on our hands in 2 years time.

Especially because CM is not a position stocked with much talent across Europe at the moment.
 
dmishra said:
The kid just turned 20. And he has some evidently outstanding attributes - a great physique, pace and good technique to boot. What's not to like?

He's hardly going to be the finished article - this is a Henderson and Coutinho type signing - a young player with vast potential. And we've got him for just 9.5 million. Given Rodgers ability to develop youngsters, we could have a gem on our hands in 2 years time.

Especially because CM is not a position stocked with much talent across Europe at the moment.
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that's all good and i'm with you, but BR said the benchmark this year was quality which would add to the first XI this year. Let's hope our future transfers meet the test.
 
red_maradona said:
that's all good and i'm with you, but BR said the benchmark this year was quality which would add to the first XI this year. Let's hope our future transfers meet the test.
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I'm sure people probably scratched their heads when we went for Coutinho. The fee and his profile didn't suggest much, I don't know why you get so irritated that we're not in for players like Willian, Mata and now Fabregas, it's fairly obvious there's still a few types of player we just can't sway (we rarely have been at the top of the market, ever). Money, London, Mourinho, sustained success, etc.. we've still been more active than anyone.
 
Judge Jules said:
Torres himself has publicly acknowledged the part that Stevie G played in his, er, explosion on to the scene with us. TBF Rafa clearly had that combo in mind.
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Aye, and unfortunately he didn't give Liverpool and, especially, Gerrard enough credit for what he had become when he demanded the move. To be fair to him, though, anyone would become disillusioned simply by playing under Hodgson.
 
For £10m or thereabouts, this geezer needs to do the business from the off. We're going to be playing a fair few more games next season...he'll get playing time no doubt about it.
 
mark1975 said:
I'm sure people probably scratched their heads when we went for Coutinho. The fee and his profile didn't suggest much, I don't know why you get so irritated that we're not in for players like Willian, Mata and now Fabregas, it's fairly obvious there's still a few types of player we just can't sway (we rarely have been at the top of the market, ever). Money, London, Mourinho, sustained success, etc.. we've still been more active than anyone.
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I don't recall being a massive fan of wanting Mata of Fabregas.

Coutinho is a different kettle of fish. When we signed him, BR hadn't come out stating he was going for quality additions and it was clear we needed to be patient.

I'm just considering things in light of what BR has said, our limited funds compared to others and an observation that we don't need wholesale changes but 2 really quality players.

Can could turn out to be very good, and I hpoe he does, but his profile doesn't suggest someone who is capable of coming in and starting in the first XI of a title challenging team.
 
red_maradona said:
I don't recall being a massive fan of wanting Mata of Fabregas.

Coutinho is a different kettle of fish. When we signed him, BR hadn't come out stating he was going for quality additions and it was clear we needed to be patient.

I'm just considering things in light of what BR has said, our limited funds compared to others and an observation that we don't need wholesale changes but 2 really quality players.

Can could turn out to be very good, and I hpoe he does, but his profile doesn't suggest someone who is capable of coming in and starting in the first XI of a title challenging team.
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I think this is the straw that broke the camels back. I'm putting you on ignore. I can't believe you aren't happy with this window so far. We're two weeks in. 1 talented youngster, 1 shrewd experienced signing. Supposedly, we have Moreno in the bag. We may make two marquee signings now. Patience.
 
Studge15 said:
To put things in perspective, he's played 30 less league games than Sterling in his career thus far.
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Until this past year, he was with Bayern. It's a wee bit different breaking into their team than breaking into our team ... That being said, this year he played plenty (and in 7 of 8 CL games). I don't think your stat highlights anything to worry about for or against the kid.
 
Irishred mentioned Can's versatility. This screen grab I took from the transfermarkt site shows the position at which Can started, or was subbed in in, for all league games this season. Not sure about the data's reliability, and as we know, players' positions change during games, but at least it's useful knowledge, I think. At the very least, it's useful as a stat line to impress others. 😉

Putting aside for now how he's performed - which is the most important element of all of course - this comes across to me as an inspired choice in terms of addressing the team's needs as well as covering for some "what-ifs" (e.g. we fail to land Moreno, Enrique and Lucas don't return to fitness/form).

Position used: started (sub-in)
LB: 8
CB: 1
DM: 9 (3)
CM: 1
AM: 1 (2)
RM: 1 (1)
LM: 2

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Not going to do screen grabs for the rest, but if anyone's curious, here's the breakdown for the other tournaments. Interesting that he never played DM or CM in the cup games at all.

Champions League
Position used: started (sub-in)
LB: 2 (1)
RM: 3
LM: 0 (1)

Domestic Cup - DFB-Pokal
Position used: started (sub-in)
LB: 2
LM: 1
 
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