Not sure Firmino will start. I think it will be Milner/ Can/ Hendo with Lallana/ Origi/ Coutinho ahead of them.
Which isn't the team I would play, plus I'm genuinely terrified about the Sakho/ Moreno Axis Of Doom on the left of our defence.
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Not sure Firmino will start. I think it will be Milner/ Can/ Hendo with Lallana/ Origi/ Coutinho ahead of them.
Which isn't the team I would play, plus I'm genuinely terrified about the Sakho/ Moreno Axis Of Doom on the left of our defence.
Haha, you know he's gonna score now right?
Anyhoo, might not be the worst scenario to bring on Sturridge or Firmino after 60 odds minutes.
Apart from Origi, who is literally another option?
Possibly, but then who leaked it? It's in the Echo too, and they don't write anything off their own backs unless it's one of those banal 'six things we learned' pieces.
To give him a boot up the arse and change his attitude before the game. It's not that difficult to understand. Why else leak it to the papers? What would be the benefit?
Just like Ryan Kent is an option for Coutinho.
Sturridge can have bad games just like anyone else. But to drop him for not scoring against Spurs and replace him with Origi? That's mental.
There wouldn't be any.
Which is why it isn't a "leak" at all, just informed journalist speculation on the starting line-up, which seems to be that Sturridge will indeed get dropped for Origi.
Informed journalist speculation? It's in the Echo.
Modo: if that was what was happening, yes, but it wouldn't be. He'd be getting dropped, and rightly, because he hasn't been on his game at all since he came back into the side.
Come on Modo, no one has said drop him because he didn't score against Spurs. The option with Origi is that he'll provide an outlet, will work harder and is likely to not sulk. The flip side is he probably won't score but we might play better as a whole.
Is that what's being done here? Or have you conflated the articles in the paper to something in your own head.
We've got a choice between two strikers, essentially, if we're playing one up top. I would have thought that Firmino would have started this game if fit, but given he's not, Klopp has got to choose between Sturridge, who in the last few games has been dropping off, not pressing and arguably looking annoyed, or Origi who, yes, carries less of a goal threat, but on the flip side allows the attacking midfielders more space and more of a target?
It's not the greatest choice in the universe, admittedly, but Dortmund are a brilliant side and Klopp is going to have to come up with something quite specific for us to stand a chance against them. He may feel that a draw is our best chance in Germany and feels Origi is better at defending from the front. Dunno.
Not everything written in the media is leaked by a source on purpose for a perceived strategic benefit. That's why "investigative journalism" and "exclusives" happen.
Lots of Liverpool-related stories are reported in the press that have no benefit at all to LFC. There's not some genius LFC PR masterplan that controls and shapes everything we read, so that all information is disclosed for a specific reason.
I was discussing the game with a bluenose mate earlier and he challenged me to put figures on any prediction, so I said Dortmund will win 2-1 tonight but the away goal will be enough to take us through the tie as a whole.
I think they call it "leading with your chin".
I think they call it "leading with your chin".
It's been reported in multiple places
True, but when a story appears written by all the Liverpool journalists in the media and in the Echo, chances are it's a leak. It's not as if David Conn's done a great piece of investigative journalism.
So if Sturridge does indeed get dropped for Origi tonight, would you still say it was "leaked" on purpose?
Well no one has said it but I bet no one would have thought it was a good idea if he had scored against Spurs.
Also, wasn't it Sturridge who played the ball to Coutinho before he scored?
Dunno. Considering that I was speculating right at the beginning, I'm not sure, but if I believed completely I was correct, I could argue that if the story was planted to test Sturridge's attitude, Sturridge could have spent the entire morning sulking and confirming what Klopp thought.
Yes it was. He played better in the second half, perhaps after a talking to at halftime, who knows. We played better in the final after Origi came on and scored two minutes later after he had made a nuisance of himself. This could go on and on. I doubt anyone on this planet thinks Origi is a better player, but it's what matters for the team tonight. Origi seems the safe bet, Sturridge is a gamble that could go magnificently or could equally see us failing to defend from the front and being punished. Admittedly that's symptomatic of how shite we are elsewhere in the team, but it is what it is. Until the Summer.
I'd imagine that if Origi starts its basically so we counter them.
I think Sturridge is bigger threat than Origi though. If we're looking to get a goal. I really hope I'm wrong.
Scoring a goal against a good side might have suggested his form was on the up. The fact remains that he didn't score or even look like doing so.
Against the background of his overall recent form, leaving him in the side because of one assist would be a triumph of hope over experience.
Sturridge playing halfway decently would be a bigger goal threat than Origi. Sturridge wafting around like a fart in a bottle wouldn't.
Haha, fucking tapatalk update.
I think we need a drone now.
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