Dortmund - Liverpool pre match thread

[manwithnoname]

Think its by far the best team we've played this season. None of the English teams have been that good.

Given that we've been beaten by English sides 11 times already this season, that doesn't bode well.

 

[KopRed]

Is it fair to say that Dortmund will be the best team we've faced this season by a distance? Or is the gap between them and the best teams in the Premier League not that big?

They look really good this season, almost scoring at will. They have some excellent players who could look shite for periods then come out with some magic to score or win the game. They are really at a very high CL level.

With the stuttering form of most of the big sides in the BPL this season, it is safe to say an in form BVB could be the best team we will face this season.

 

[Judge Jules]

"The sport scientist’s theory of “differential learning” contends that players do not learn by repetition and perfecting drills but by adapting their technique, intuitively, to a never-ending stream of problems."

This. One of the reasons I love soccer (yeah yeah) over American football, basketball, and baseball, is the radically non-Americanness of each player being able to decide what he will do, on his own, the entire game. Sure, there are methods and plays but the genius is in each player's head and body, not some coach high up in a box. The concept of success by adapting and solving an infinite number of possible problems on the fly is what makes even a 0-0 game exciting.

Interesting post, counsel, but the bench is sceptical of the concept of an either/or divide between repetition and intuition. Of course the latter plays a large part, but how else are players to develop their technique in the first place if not by repetition and drills?

Incidentally here's one Englishman who has no time for some of his countrymen's artificial protests about the use of the term "soccer", itself a quintessentially English term which will surely have been introduced West of the pond by expatriates from these here parts. The term probably originated in our public schools (very different both historically and currently from yours, as you will know) and the bench's view is that objections to it are due as much to that as to anything else.

 

[Hansern]

Given that we've been beaten by English sides 11 times already this season, that doesn't bode well.

Ha, quite. We've been alright against the other "big" teams.

 

[Holle]

Just outside the stadium. The travelling kop well up for it.

 

[JurgenKlopp]

Just outside the stadium. The travelling kop well up for it.

Love to be there for this. Awesome stadium and fans.

 

[ILD]

I can't wait for this. We've beaten United, now on to Dortmund.

They are definitely gonna score so we'll have to as well. Play Milner, Can, Henderson, Sturridge, Coutinho and Firmino (if fit). If not play Lallana.

 

[ctlovesred]

Interesting post, counsel, but the bench is sceptical of the concept of an either/or divide between repetition and intuition. Of course the latter plays a large part, but how else are players to develop their technique in the first place if not by repetition and drills?

Incidentally here's one Englishman who has no time for some of his countrymen's artificial protests about the use of the term "soccer", itself a quintessentially English term which will surely have been introduced West of the pond by expatriates from these here parts. The term probably originated in our public schools (very different both historically and currently from yours, as you will know) and the bench's view is that objections to it are due as much to that as to anything else.

The bench recognizes, of course, the various stages of development in a player's career and that this sport scientist's theory presumes a solid technical foundation requisite before applying it in highly fluid live scenarios. I can see how the two could be developed in parallel as well - so that there is no technique that can't be defined as a solution to various real-field problems.

Counsel gratefully concedes the bench's point on mistakenly 'Murican sporting vernacular.

 

[JurgenKlopp]

Studge dropped, big call.

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

We're so gonna batter them.

 

[manwithnoname]

Confirmed #LFC team to face @BVB: Mignolet, Clyne, Lovren, Sakho, Moreno, Henderson, Can, Milner, Lallana, Coutinho, Origi.

That's the team everyone was expecting and predicted, given the Sturridge/ Origi call was widely known, Firmino clearly not fit enough to start.

Hmmm. Not the side I would have picked

 

[jan]

So, was it leaked on purpose?

 

[Insignificance]

Studge dropped, big call.

Good call

 

[cloggypop]

We're so gonna batter them.

HAVE YOU GOT A NEW IPHONE MY BLOOD BLEEDS RED?

 

[manwithnoname]

So, was it leaked on purpose?

Yeah, apparently to test how Sturridge would take the decision in the lead-up to the game, before what everyone knew was going to happen, happened.

I think that's right anyway, so I hope Sturridge reacted to the purposefully leaked speculation in the right way

 

[Mystic]

That seems like a side you'd send out to try avoid defeat rather than one to try and win, but that doesn't seem like a Klopp kind of thing to do though, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

 

[SummerOnions]

This has got draw written all over it

 

[tombrown]

We'll score from a corner

 

[manwithnoname]

We'll score from a corner

Woah. Crazy talk. I like it

 

[Hansern]

That seems like a side you'd send out to try avoid defeat rather than one to try and win, but that doesn't seem like a Klopp kind of thing to do though, so I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt for now.

Is it? Origi gives us more pace and the ability to hold the ball up. His pressing is also on another level to Sturridge, which will be extremely important tonight.
Why should we start a gung ho approach either when the tie is 180 minutes and not just tonight.

Studge will play a big part in this tie and will probably start next week.

 

[manwithnoname]

Is it? Origi gives us more pace and the ability to hold the ball up. His pressing is also on another level to Sturridge, which will be extremely important tonight.
Why should we start a gung ho approach either when the tie is 180 minutes and not just tonight.

Studge will play a big part in this tie and will probably start next week.

We will have no sensible, nuanced debate here, thank you very much

 

[Mystic]

Is it? Origi gives us more pace and the ability to hold the ball up. His pressing is also on another level to Sturridge, which will be extremely important tonight.
Why should we start a gung ho approach either when the tie is 180 minutes and not just tonight.

Studge will play a big part in this tie and will probably start next week.

Sure but outside Coutinho there's no goals in that team, I know it's a two legged affair, but I'd be disappointed if Klopp wasn't going for the win tonight.

 

[Hansern]

We will have no sensible, nuanced debate here, thank you very much

Ooookay

 

[manwithnoname]

Sure but outside Coutinho there's no goals in that team, I know it's a two legged affair, but I'd be disappointed if Klopp wasn't going for the win tonight.

Hmmm, not sure. He's playing a first leg tie away to a far superior team. It's not that weird to assume a draw would be a good result

 

[Jack D Rips]

A lot of (over) confidence on here?

 

[HC]

Klopp spoke of how fresh origi is as well as his speed and strength lending themselves to this match

I like the idea of Sturridge coming in late in the game , he might actually turn up

 

[Insignificance]

So, was it leaked on purpose?

Probably just a clumsy move by the cleaning lady throwing the notes out with normal garbage. ...

 

[Modo]

quite a rendition of YNWA....goosebumps.

 

[tombrown]

Where's gerry?

 

[cloggypop]

Kampen Nobb!