Strangely enough, I agree with Hansern. I have no faith in Benitez and want him to be sacked no matter what, but I do believe City and Spurs will drop a lot of points, and it's up to us and Villa to try and capitalise on that. I'm not saying we WILL finish fourth, but it's definitely not over yet.
Clutching at Straws..
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i think city will finish 4th, with us 5th by a point or 2, mainly because i can't see us beating chelsea, but i suppose we need to concentrate on going into that game with a chance, ie rack up 3 good wins.
tbh, the more we're up against it, the more i'm enjoying playing the deluded optimist in the midst of the braying mob. i still think it'll be close: basically the chelsea game or bust.
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I think we'll blow it in spectacular fashion.
Beat Chelsea to secure the Mancs the title => then draw away to Hull as we lose out on the final day to bring an end to Rafa's tenure.
Maybe i'm being overly negative, but as Liverpool fan of the last 20 years, winning battles but losing the wars is all I know (esp under Ged and Rafa).
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i must admit i'm getting sick of being depressed. it's a pity in some ways that i had too much integrity circa 1993 to switch to man utd, as most of my school friends were happy enough to do. we do seem uniquely able to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory, never more than the disastrous handling of our search for investment. how the fuck did a club with as much going for it as us end up winning last prize in that particular raffle?
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Yeah, it's dis-heartening. When you see the likes of Chelsea and Citeh spending money like it's going out of fashion. Arsenal builiding a new ground and a promising future. United winning. Always winning.
.. and then here's us.. the odd battle won or so, but ultimately, it's optimism followed by the cold reality. We win just enough to get our hopes up of winning the big one, but the truth is we're just not good enough in various aspects of the club.
Before last season, it was the first time I was off the "can't wait for next season" bangwagon. You know, the one on the infamous *Liverpool boom-bust cycle* Link. And then last season came, and although I thought we were incredibly lucky in some aspects (which would never continue) and although I ultimately felt we blew it, I couldn't help but feel optimism for this forthcoming season. Telling the Mancs and all who'd listen, "next year will finally be our year".
How I was wrong.. back to cold reality, once more.
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last season it was;
I can't wait for next season ;D
this season its;
I can't wait for next season 🙁
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i think city will finish 4th, with us 5th by a point or 2, mainly because i can't see us beating chelsea, but i suppose we need to concentrate on going into that game with a chance, ie rack up 3 good wins.
tbh, the more we're up against it, the more i'm enjoying playing the deluded optimist in the midst of the braying mob. i still think it'll be close: basically the chelsea game or bust.
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I think we'll blow it in spectacular fashion.
Beat Chelsea to secure the Mancs the title => then draw away to Hull as we lose out on the final day to bring an end to Rafa's tenure.
Maybe i'm being overly negative, but as Liverpool fan of the last 20 years, winning battles but losing the wars is all I know (esp under Ged and Rafa).
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i must admit i'm getting sick of being depressed. it's a pity in some ways that i had too much integrity circa 1993 to switch to man utd, as most of my school friends were happy enough to do. we do seem uniquely able to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory, never more than the disastrous handling of our search for investment. how the fuck did a club with as much going for it as us end up winning last prize in that particular raffle?
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Yeah, it's dis-heartening. When you see the likes of Chelsea and Citeh spending money like it's going out of fashion. Arsenal builiding a new ground and a promising future. United winning. Always winning.
.. and then here's us.. the odd battle won or so, but ultimately, it's optimism followed by the cold reality. We win just enough to get our hopes up of winning the big one, but the truth is we're just not good enough in various aspects of the club.
Before last season, it was the first time I was off the "can't wait for next season" bangwagon. You know, the one on the infamous *Liverpool boom-bust cycle* Link. And then last season came, and although I thought we were incredibly lucky in some aspects (which would never continue) and although I ultimately felt we blew it, I couldn't help but feel optimism for this forthcoming season. Telling the Mancs and all who'd listen, "next year will finally be our year".
How I was wrong.. back to cold reality, once more.
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last season it was;
I can't wait for next season ;D
this season its;
I can't wait for next season 🙁
we are 4 points behind with city having a game in hand. they could make it 7pts.
7 points with 5games remaining and have a +3 better goal difference.
so in 6games city have left, we are expecting them to lose atleast 3, with us winning the rest of our matches including Chelsea.
Be realistic, its not going to happen.
7 points with 5games remaining and have a +3 better goal difference.
so in 6games city have left, we are expecting them to lose atleast 3, with us winning the rest of our matches including Chelsea.
Be realistic, its not going to happen.
Im with Zlatan (shudders), it's over. We're not getting 4th.
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Zlatan, 7 points, thats 2 losses and a draw. Against Brum, Utd, Arsenal, Villa, Spurs and West Ham. Thats something that can happen. The game in hand is against Spurs aswell, on the 5th of may. Im not saying it will happen, Im saying there is a chance.
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i know its 7 points but then the goal difference counts too.
i said 3 games to lose because i am predicting we will lose to chelsea
Zlatan, 7 points, thats 2 losses and a draw. Against Brum, Utd, Arsenal, Villa, Spurs and West Ham. Thats something that can happen. The game in hand is against Spurs aswell, on the 5th of may. Im not saying it will happen, Im saying there is a chance.
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i know its 7 points but then the goal difference counts too.
i said 3 games to lose because i am predicting we will lose to chelsea
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Zlatan, 7 points, thats 2 losses and a draw. Against Brum, Utd, Arsenal, Villa, Spurs and West Ham. Thats something that can happen. The game in hand is against Spurs aswell, on the 5th of may. Im not saying it will happen, Im saying there is a chance.
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exactly. saying it can't happen is just as blinkered as saying it will happen.
before this weekend i felt (and i think most agreed) that we needed 5 wins and a draw, and with 2 difficult games (spare me the 'no easy games' cliche - you know what i mean), this meant we had to win one of them and draw the other. we can still do that. it'll be very difficult, but then it was always going to be - you only had to look at birmingham's record to see that.
i'll be surprised if city don't drop 7 points, and the goal difference is a non-issue because making up 7 points will almost certainly restore that in our favour.
Zlatan, 7 points, thats 2 losses and a draw. Against Brum, Utd, Arsenal, Villa, Spurs and West Ham. Thats something that can happen. The game in hand is against Spurs aswell, on the 5th of may. Im not saying it will happen, Im saying there is a chance.
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exactly. saying it can't happen is just as blinkered as saying it will happen.
before this weekend i felt (and i think most agreed) that we needed 5 wins and a draw, and with 2 difficult games (spare me the 'no easy games' cliche - you know what i mean), this meant we had to win one of them and draw the other. we can still do that. it'll be very difficult, but then it was always going to be - you only had to look at birmingham's record to see that.
i'll be surprised if city don't drop 7 points, and the goal difference is a non-issue because making up 7 points will almost certainly restore that in our favour.
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basically we need spurs and man city both to fuck up three times in 5 games with us winning our remaining games. can't see it, its done
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in six games .... against the best teams in the league all of which are fighting for the title..... i can see it.... it is a long shot.
basically we need spurs and man city both to fuck up three times in 5 games with us winning our remaining games. can't see it, its done
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in six games .... against the best teams in the league all of which are fighting for the title..... i can see it.... it is a long shot.
We're gonna win the league.
If we were playing well, I wouldn't assume it was over. The others will still drop lots of points. Unfortunately, there is no way of guessing how many we will pick up, we are just too erratic.
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If we were playing well, I wouldn't assume it was over. The others will still drop lots of points. Unfortunately, there is no way of guessing how many we will pick up, we are just too erratic.
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Aye.
If we were playing well, I wouldn't assume it was over. The others will still drop lots of points. Unfortunately, there is no way of guessing how many we will pick up, we are just too erratic.
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Aye.
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