Clutching at Straws..

[Hansern]

Yes, clutching at the thinnest straws there are and everyone will say 4th is gone, but here goes.

The next 21 days will tell us if we actually can finish 4th or not. Yes today was a huge set back. But, if everything goes our way we might still be in it.

Spurs play Arsenal (H), Chelsea (H) and Utd (A).
City play Birmingham (H), Utd (H) and Arsenal(A).

We play Fulham (H), West Ham(H) and Burnely (A).

We're trailing by 4 points behind City. IF we pick up 9 points from those games, we could find ourselves above City, and they'll have a game in hand against Spurs. That game could be massive for both clubs, and even us. In the end we might be cheering for Spurs, if the results have gone our way.

We could still nick it, and there will be some more twist and turns before the end. But it would be a great bonus to still be involved when we enter May.
City then play Villa at home when we entertain Chelsea, and have a potentially tricky tie against West Ham in the final game when we're away to Hull. 15 pints to play for, and there will be some unexpeted results. We HAVE to win our 5 remaining games and pray that there is a football God.

Still hope, although it's getting more and more bleak. But for all the things that have gone against us this season, we're due some luck in the final stages. We might not deserve it, but fuck me it would be good with a happy ending.

 

[franklyfrank]

No chance man, it's all but over for us.

 

[Buddha]

It's not over 'til the fat lady sings.

*waits for picture*

 

[SaintGeorge67]

They might all go into administration

 

[spider-Neil]

its gone, we really needed to win today to have any hope

 

[Shadey]

I'm with you Hansern..

 

[manwithnoname]

this thread is depressing.

 

[Hansern]

Hahaha, it's indeed Brendan. Hoping for 2 losses and a draw to get 4th, jeeeezzess H Christ. We deserve much better than what we're getting.

 

[spider-Neil]

basically we need spurs and man city both to fuck up three times in 5 games with us winning our remaining games. can't see it, its done

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

Give it up man, just leave it.

*shakes head*

 

[Hansern]

We couldn't have asked for a better fixture list for it to happen though, still I have as the most of you come to terms with us missing out on CL.

Would be excellent if our luck changed though, and gave us some much needed help.

 

[Loch Ness Monster]

We need more than luck mate. We need divine intervention. And it aint gonna happen, as we are clueless on the pitch, clueless off the pitch, and do not deserve any luck.

 

[manwithnoname]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39658.msg1082219#msg1082219 date=1270410915]
basically we need spurs and man city both to fuck up three times in 5 games with us winning our remaining games. can't see it, its done
[/quote]

City and Spurs both have far superior squads than us, so it would seem obvious that we might struggle to finish above them, especially if any of our better players are injured

Let's be brutally honest, not one of our rivals for the title - or even for fourth place- have had to rely on dismal fuckers like Insua, Lucas, Zorba, Eggnog, or Casper. And even our more reliable players like Kuyt and Carra have been very erratic.

In fact, who has played well this season? Reina? Torres? Possibly Masher and Magic.

That's about it

 

[Hansern]

Maybe you're right mate. But if the rumours about 2 potenial suitors from the Middle East are true, then getting rid of G&H and Rafa will more than make up for not being in the CL for a year imho.

Let's at least hope we have some luck of the pitch..

 

[manwithnoname]

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=39658.msg1082227#msg1082227 date=1270411665]
Maybe you're right mate. But if the rumours about 2 potenial suitors from the East are true, then getting rid of G&H and Rafa will more than make up for not being in the CL for a year imho.

Let's at least hope we have some luck of the pitch..
[/quote]

Rumours about suitors from the East? From "reliable" internet sources?

Tell me, why aren't I in any way excited by this?

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39658.msg1082226#msg1082226 date=1270411628]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39658.msg1082219#msg1082219 date=1270410915]
basically we need spurs and man city both to fuck up three times in 5 games with us winning our remaining games. can't see it, its done
[/quote]

City and Spurs both have far superior squads than us, so it would seem obvious that we might struggle to finish above them, especially if any of our better players are injured

Let's be brutally honest, not one of our rivals for the title - or even for fourth place- have had to rely on dismal fuckers like Insua, Lucas, Zorba, Eggnog, or Casper. And even our more reliable players like Kuyt and Carra have been very erratic.

In fact, who has played well this season? Reina? Torres? Possibly Masher and Magic.

That's about it
[/quote]

the only person who escapes critisism for this year is reina and maybe torres everyone else almost to a man has been poor at some stage in the season.

 

[Shadey]

Liverpool are on course to secure fresh investment, or even completely new owners before the end of the season after a deadline was extended for a potential buy-out of George Gillett and Tom Hicks.
Full story: Mail on Sunday

But Liverpool are set to reject a £110m deal from New York-based fund management company Rhone Group - the offer expires on Monday.
Full story: Independent on Sunday

 

[claretandblue]

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=39658.msg1082207#msg1082207 date=1270410060]
Yes, clutching at the thinnest straws there are and everyone will say 4th is gone, but here goes.

The next 21 days will tell us if we actually can finish 4th or not. Yes today was a huge set back. But, if everything goes our way we might still be in it.

Spurs play Arsenal (H), Chelsea (H) and Utd (A).
City play Birmingham (H), Utd (H) and Arsenal(A).

We play Fulham (H), West Ham(H) and Burnely (A).

We're trailing by 4 points behind City. IF we pick up 9 points from those games, we could find ourselves above City, and they'll have a game in hand against Spurs. That game could be massive for both clubs, and even us. In the end we might be cheering for Spurs, if the results have gone our way.

We could still nick it, and there will be some more twist and turns before the end. But it would be a great bonus to still be involved when we enter May.
City then play Villa at home when we entertain Chelsea, and have a potentially tricky tie against West Ham in the final game when we're away to Hull. 15 pints to play for, and there will be some unexpeted results. We HAVE to win our 5 remaining games and pray that there is a football God.

Still hope, although it's getting more and more bleak. But for all the things that have gone against us this season, we're due some luck in the final stages. We might not deserve it, but fuck me it would be good with a happy ending.
[/quote]

Oi!

Villa play Everton (H), Portsmouth (A) and Hull (A).

I agree that it may look very different after Man City and Spurs have played those 3 games.

 

[monsieurdantes]

if anything, all this shows is that had we sacked the moron after christmas then we'd have finished fourth quite comfortably

 

[peterhague]

i think city will finish 4th, with us 5th by a point or 2, mainly because i can't see us beating chelsea, but i suppose we need to concentrate on going into that game with a chance, ie rack up 3 good wins.

tbh, the more we're up against it, the more i'm enjoying playing the deluded optimist in the midst of the braying mob. i still think it'll be close: basically the chelsea game or bust.

 

[ibromurph]

[quote author=peterhague link=topic=39658.msg1082314#msg1082314 date=1270425053]
i think city will finish 4th, with us 5th by a point or 2, mainly because i can't see us beating chelsea, but i suppose we need to concentrate on going into that game with a chance, ie rack up 3 good wins.

tbh, the more we're up against it, the more i'm enjoying playing the deluded optimist in the midst of the braying mob. i still think it'll be close: basically the chelsea game or bust.
[/quote]

I think we'll blow it in spectacular fashion.

Beat Chelsea to secure the Mancs the title => then draw away to Hull as we lose out on the final day to bring an end to Rafa's tenure.

Maybe i'm being overly negative, but as Liverpool fan of the last 20 years, winning battles but losing the wars is all I know (esp under Ged and Rafa).

 

[franklyfrank]

The sooner we're all put out of our misery the better, we aint finishing 4th, end of.

I just hope it's all been decided by the time we play Chelsea at home.
If we beat them which hands the Title to the scum and results in them overtaking us in League's then that will just be icing on the cake to a complete cunt of a season.

 

[peterhague]

[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=39658.msg1082318#msg1082318 date=1270425378]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=39658.msg1082314#msg1082314 date=1270425053]
i think city will finish 4th, with us 5th by a point or 2, mainly because i can't see us beating chelsea, but i suppose we need to concentrate on going into that game with a chance, ie rack up 3 good wins.

tbh, the more we're up against it, the more i'm enjoying playing the deluded optimist in the midst of the braying mob. i still think it'll be close: basically the chelsea game or bust.
[/quote]

I think we'll blow it in spectacular fashion.

Beat Chelsea to secure the Mancs the title => then draw away to Hull as we lose out on the final day to bring an end to Rafa's tenure.

Maybe i'm being overly negative, but as Liverpool fan of the last 20 years, winning battles but losing the wars is all I know (esp under Ged and Rafa).
[/quote]


i must admit i'm getting sick of being depressed. it's a pity in some ways that i had too much integrity circa 1993 to switch to man utd, as most of my school friends were happy enough to do. we do seem uniquely able to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory, never more than the disastrous handling of our search for investment. how the fuck did a club with as much going for it as us end up winning last prize in that particular raffle?

 

[spider-Neil]

[quote author=peterhague link=topic=39658.msg1082324#msg1082324 date=1270427074]
how the fuck did a club with as much going for it as us end up winning last prize in that particular raffle?
[/quote]

to be fair I think he mancs got gold with us getting silver

 

[peterhague]

[quote author=franklyfrank link=topic=39658.msg1082322#msg1082322 date=1270426524]
The sooner we're all put out of our misery the better, we aint finishing 4th, end of.

I just hope it's all been decided by the time we play Chelsea at home.
If we beat them which hands the Title to the scum and results in them overtaking us in League's then that will just be icing on the cake to a complete cunt of a season.

[/quote]

we've got more chance of finishing 4th than stopping utd overtaking our title count, whether that's this season or next, i'm sure of that.

 

[peterhague]

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39658.msg1082326#msg1082326 date=1270427476]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=39658.msg1082324#msg1082324 date=1270427074]
how the fuck did a club with as much going for it as us end up winning last prize in that particular raffle?
[/quote]

to be fair I think he mancs got gold with us getting silver
[/quote]

utd already sold themselves when they floated on the stock exchange. they took the gamble, so they can't complain that they lost. we, on the other hand, actually handpicked our 2 bastards.

 

[ibromurph]

[quote author=peterhague link=topic=39658.msg1082324#msg1082324 date=1270427074]
[quote author=ibromurph link=topic=39658.msg1082318#msg1082318 date=1270425378]
[quote author=peterhague link=topic=39658.msg1082314#msg1082314 date=1270425053]
i think city will finish 4th, with us 5th by a point or 2, mainly because i can't see us beating chelsea, but i suppose we need to concentrate on going into that game with a chance, ie rack up 3 good wins.

tbh, the more we're up against it, the more i'm enjoying playing the deluded optimist in the midst of the braying mob. i still think it'll be close: basically the chelsea game or bust.
[/quote]

I think we'll blow it in spectacular fashion.

Beat Chelsea to secure the Mancs the title => then draw away to Hull as we lose out on the final day to bring an end to Rafa's tenure.

Maybe i'm being overly negative, but as Liverpool fan of the last 20 years, winning battles but losing the wars is all I know (esp under Ged and Rafa).
[/quote]


i must admit i'm getting sick of being depressed. it's a pity in some ways that i had too much integrity circa 1993 to switch to man utd, as most of my school friends were happy enough to do. we do seem uniquely able to clutch defeat from the jaws of victory, never more than the disastrous handling of our search for investment. how the fuck did a club with as much going for it as us end up winning last prize in that particular raffle?
[/quote]

Yeah, it's dis-heartening. When you see the likes of Chelsea and Citeh spending money like it's going out of fashion. Arsenal builiding a new ground and a promising future. United winning. Always winning.

.. and then here's us.. the odd battle won or so, but ultimately, it's optimism followed by the cold reality. We win just enough to get our hopes up of winning the big one, but the truth is we're just not good enough in various aspects of the club.

Before last season, it was the first time I was off the "can't wait for next season" bangwagon. You know, the one on the infamous *Liverpool boom-bust cycle* Link. And then last season came, and although I thought we were incredibly lucky in some aspects (which would never continue) and although I ultimately felt we blew it, I couldn't help but feel optimism for this forthcoming season. Telling the Mancs and all who'd listen, "next year will finally be our year".

How I was wrong.. back to cold reality, once more.

 

[Y1]

Why can't we just accept the fact we can no longer qualify for CL next year however we look at it?

 

[zlatan18]

we needed to beat birmingham to have any chance of finishing 4th and we failed to do that. As depressing as it is 🙁 its over..

 

[DHSC]

Maybe we wont feel disappointed if we realign our expectations and treat qualifying for Europe, regardless of the competition, as an achievement.

That's how disappointed I feel.