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City Charged By Premier League

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Just been reading the possible punishments and none was to forfeit the titles they won while cheating.
 
Just been reading the possible punishments and none was to forfeit the titles they won while cheating.

I read them all too and then remembered it makes no odds as it’ll be 2078 by the time it’s sorted and nothing will come of it anyway.
 
When Australian Rugby League team Melbourne Storm, who had dominated the game in Australia, were found to have breached salary cap regulations, they were stripped of the titles they won.

I don’t follow the sport closely enough or care whether the runners up got the titles.

It didn’t really stop Storm being very successful - but it’s also a closed league, so no relegation.

For me there have to be past and future consequences if they’re found guilty - otherwise, make it what it is - a business with no sporting integrity.

If they’re really smart, the Premier League have a chance to stop the league becoming the same as every other major league in Europe - dominated by 1 or 2 teams or just corrupt like Italy.

I’d love to see more teams with a realistic chance of winning the league, even if meant we didn’t.

Closer to home and more recently, Saracens breached the cap 3 times in a row, won 4 out of 5 titles similar to City..
They were relegated, but kept their titles.

I expect a similar 'deal' may be reached with City, back to the Championship for a year.
Tainted titles... yes... Will it make a difference? No.

Saracens were back up within a year.

Only way it'd work would be to have a Juve style sanction, and the Premier League won't have the bollocks for that.
 
I think I’ve come up with a fair punishment. This should also include an investigation into the seasons after 2018 to see whether any further breach have occurred.

- forfeit of every trophy win during the period with trophies represented to runners up.
- fine of £1m for every point gained in the League during the period, to be distributed amongst all clubs that played against them in the league based on amount of games played against Mancheatster Shitty.
- additional fine of 100% of all Premier League, FA Cup & League Cup prize money earned in the total period to be distributed to the FA & Premier League and used to fund grass roots initiatives.
- barred from playing in the Premier League, FA Cup & League Cup for 1 season for each season they committed an offence.
- Barred from signing any players or renewing any contracts of existing players for one season for every season they were found to have committed an offence.
- All current players to be allowed to leave on a free if they so desire.
- expulsion from the Premier League, in addition to the 3 teams expected to be relegated with a one-off play-off between the team finishing 17th in the Premier League & the losing Championship play-off finalist.
- Emptyiad stadium lease to be cancelled with immediate effect and where ever they are allowed to play games, no too ket charges for away fans for one season for every season they committed an offence.
- Shirt sponsorship to be cancelled with immediate effect to be replaced with the slogan “CHEATERS NEVER PROSPER” for one year for each season they have committed an offence.
- the lyrics of Hey Jude played before every game to be changed to :
“Hey Jurg, you’re right, we were bad.
We need a sad song where we’re a cheater.
Remember only when we’re sorry from our heart,
Then we can start to make it better.”

That’ll do for starters.

To be fair City have already handed back every trophy they won in Europe over the period of their cheating - to their credit.

And they also have to buy us Bellingham.
 
I'd like to see a bunch of law suits brought forward by clubs & players affected by this. This is the chance for the PL to feel pressure to adjudicate.

  • Clubs to sue for loss of income - e.g. prize money 'lost', sponsorship opportunities lost, european prize money where they missed out on qualification.
  • Managers to sue for loss of earnings - bonuses for finishing positions
  • Players to sue for loss of earnings - bonuses for finishing positions, sponsorship deals etc.
Something co-ordinated around this would drive the PL to have to remove City 2008 - 2021 from the history books, and have the fines distributed to clubs and managers/players.
 
Closer to home and more recently, Saracens breached the cap 3 times in a row, won 4 out of 5 titles similar to City..
They were relegated, but kept their titles.

I expect a similar 'deal' may be reached with City, back to the Championship for a year.
Tainted titles... yes... Will it make a difference? No.

Saracens were back up within a year.

Only way it'd work would be to have a Juve style sanction, and the Premier League won't have the bollocks for that.
They’d be setting a precedent for everyone to do the same and if caught still keep their spoils.
 
you couldn't make this shit up


[article]. Yeah, and our owner and management team have been under fire for the majority of that period, its basically racism. There's no excuse for it.

This is the bloke that provided funding for Barclays Bank during the 2008 banking crisis. Think on that... if Barclays had gone under or had to be nationalised this country would have been in unprecedented shite.

The same bloke thats involved in rebalancing his countries economy away from fossil fuels with huge investment programmes in stuff that matters such as water, telecoms, green energy etc. All real things which will have positive impact on the world in the future.

And so the PL gimps get in bed with a bunch of American frat boy hedge fund wankers that are basically no better than your local Harold Penk bookie. These are the people calling the shots now in our sport (and plenty of other things). [/article]
 
Just been reading the possible punishments and none was to forfeit the titles they won while cheating.
There’s a clause that allows the commission to hand out whatever punishment they believe is appropriate (the sanctions mentioned are basically indicative). Also worth noting that even if the commission doesn’t eject them from the League, the other teams can vote to chuck them out (think it needs 15 teams to agree, from memory - I looked at it over the Superleague fiasco).

EDIT - whooshed by @Irishanfield - sorry mate!
 
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I wonder how much of this is to do with Liverpool
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give it to gordon
On what grounds did they decide to investigate City ? What made them think City must be cheating ?

do they investigate every PL club this deeply ? If not than it is a clear case of a witch hunt.

What is the pl views on money laundering for guns as shirt sponsors ?
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Back to back posts as well
 
There’s a clause that allows the commission to hand out whatever punishment they believe is appropriate (the sanctions mentioned are basically indicative). Also worth noting that even if the commission doesn’t eject them from the League, the other teams can vote to chuck them out (think it needs 15 teams to agree, from memory - I looked at it over the Superleague fiasco).

EDIT - whooshed by @Irishanfield - sorry mate!
You Expained it better 😉
 
It's very unlikely we'll be given any retrospective titles should they be found guilty.

But at a minimum I would want to see their titles stripped from them and the season considered void.

Otherwise, you basically just green light cheating, if you get to keep your ill-gotten gains.
 
It's very unlikely we'll be given any retrospective titles should they be found guilty.

But at a minimum I would want to see their titles stripped from them and the season considered void.

Otherwise, you basically just green light cheating, if you get to keep your ill-gotten gains.
I know some fans would be jumping around and having a wank if we were given retrospective titles but they would bring me no joy... Just void the winners
 
I like how their premise is there couldn't be something wrong. How could there be some suspicion of cheating when a club with no fan base at all suddenly had commercial revenues that were as high as united. Why did anyone even suspect anything? I can't wrap my head around it.
 
If course it wouldn't bring much joy, but there's no joy in this either way. They've ruined a decade of a competition. They still got to have their sad excuse for a parade. Taking the titles away isn't a punishment, it's just fair. The punishment begins after that and should be severe.
 
To think, if City have indeed cheated. They've effectively cheated us out of 3 titles, 100+pts potentially and an unbeaten season.

Relegation and title stripping is the minimum expected punishment.

If they cheated? We know they cheated. We just don't know whether they'll get away with it again.
 
The obsession with us continues

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richards30 said:
i wjust wish if we are innocent we burn the house down anyway once and for all? Fuck NDA`S with regards the dippers hacking etc and just expose everything?
When we caught the dippers hacking, we surely held something back from the settlement in case of something like this. Is probably the right time to get the special file out of the cupboard and go postal [/article]




Hacking lol
We sign two coaches who logged in using their old password. How stupid were city for not changing it....
 
If they cheated? We know they cheated. We just don't know whether they'll get away with it again.
Lol. I'm just trying to do the whole "innocent until proven guilty", but it's been obvious, hasn't it?

I really should be saying "if they are found guilty" because like you say, we know they probably are. It's just whether their lawyers can find another couple of loopholes or technicalities for them to escape punishment again.
 
I don't see anything getting revised from the past. Too messy for the authorities to bother with.

The worst for them/best for everyone else is that they get kicked out of the Premier League, but I can't see that either to be honest.

Most likely would be points deductions and a transfer ban. Even that would end up being appealed away to a fine, which is useless really.
 

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To think, if City have indeed cheated. They've effectively cheated us out of 3 titles, 100+pts potentially and an unbeaten season.

Relegation and title stripping is the minimum expected punishment.

There is also the build on effect which is difficult to quantify. Maybe Rodgers's career would have looked a lot different with that one PL title in his bag. If we had won multiple premier leagues, the confidence boost it would have given us.

Who knows, maybe FSG would have sanctioned a midfield purchase. OK ok, I know I went a bit too far there and stretched my luck a little bit.
 
I don't think anything will happen. However, if they do get punished it'll be just our luck that nothing will happen retrospectively. The greatest team we had in decades were shafted out of titles and then city get punished now that the rivals have caught up with us.
 
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