I'd agree. He's technically excellent. Whether it's just a next level of confidence in his own ability he needs, I don't know. Because he's very talented
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He got the ball first tho… by that logic every tackle is a foul.
Unfortunately I've seen szob do a lot of things
Jones is a fine athlete and technically competent, so he is never terrible, but for a CM, his performance is pretty mediocre
This is Gravenberch’s least noticeable performance of the season, and that’s because his midfield partner has not been near enough positionally to create a double pivot or progress the ball quickly
Yeah he had a great chance to put Mo (Szobo?) through. However bar the penalty' (why did he wait?) he's been excellent. Szobo needs to come off for Mac in at 10.
Seriously though, Macca for szob for me.
I don't think he's done anything dramatically wrong, bar being a little too conservative
This is why I think it's harsh to criticise Jones; he's not a double pivot midfielder. He's a 10, or left sided 8.
I don't think he's done anything dramatically wrong, bar being a little too conservative
A better 10 than Szobo im pretty sure we'd stroll the league
Honestly I'd be tempted by Jones as the 10. He's clearly causing issues further up, and Macca is a lot more comfortable in the double pivot
Shame Jones couldn’t sort his feet out to shoot earlier.
Chelsea the better side but we lead.
Get Mac on ASAP.
Gravy has been nowhere for the first time this season.
Jones superb and Nunez excellent since coming on.
Salah with a goal and a couple of other delicious pieces of play but otherwise being kept quiet.
Chelsea the better side but we lead.
Get Mac on ASAP.
Gravy has been nowhere for the first time this season.
Jones superb and Nunez excellent since coming on.
Salah with a goal and a couple of other delicious pieces of play but otherwise being kept quiet.
But the criticism of him is related to his play further up the field. Not releasing the ball quickly which is not a double pivot issue. It’s a a general midfield quality issue
I agree with both of you, but that said, if we don't win this match, all I'll remember today is him dawdling on a simple pass / shot that even I or anybody reading this) would have made...
I don't get the non pen at all.
Getting the ball means kicking it away from the opponent, and i can accept it if after that he took out the player since the player had no chance to get the ball anymore.
But in this case, he barely got the ball, Jones partially intercepted it, putting it back to his running path but Sanchez totally took him out.
How is that not a pen?
Getting the ball means kicking it away from the opponent, and i can accept it if after that he took out the player since the player had no chance to get the ball anymore.
But in this case, he barely got the ball, Jones partially intercepted it, putting it back to his running path but Sanchez totally took him out.
How is that not a pen?
...if the tackle is completed by kicking the player or bringing him down. Many tackles don't do that.
He lost the tackle though, and flattened the player with the follow through, why does who touches it first matter?
Well he nearly got us a 2nd penalty by making the right run and being in the right position. He has been passing back most of the time but thats because under Slot its about less risk and more ball retention to maintain control more than offensive actions.
Now there's two options here:
1. It's a pen. Jones won the ball back meaning it's a straight forward foul by the goalkeeper.
2. It's Not a pen. Not only because Sanchez touched it but because Sanchez has nowhere to go after the initial touch so even if Jones won the ball, Jones is also heading straight into Sanchez so what can he do. It's a collision.
I think it's no 2
I heard he got back from international duty last night after impregnating every female in Northern Ireland aged between 18 and 23.
Playing into the Kop second half should lift us.
Arguably the worst we’ve played this season so it’s a bonus we are winning.
Arguably the worst we’ve played this season so it’s a bonus we are winning.
He touched the ball first, not necessarily the same as getting the ball. I think it was a penalty really, certainly having it overturned seemed lucky for them.
Getting the ball first hasn’t been a thing for years. The ball went between the keepers legs, then he took out Jones and even lifted his arm to flip him over.
This has been the worst 45 I’ve seen from a ref.
This has been the worst 45 I’ve seen from a ref.
Usually you're not allowed to wipe someone out though, even when you get a slight touch on the ball first.
Kind of like Virgil getting sent off against Newcastle last year. He got the ball first and then kicked through Isak. Red card given.
Very suprised that pen was overturned. Usually it's one of those that could go either way, but once the decision is made, there's not enough to overturn it.
No doubt, Sanchez got the ball first, then Jones knocked it past him, and Sanchez was then clumsy and wiped him out (deliberately raising his arm to make sure he took down Curtis as he went over him).
To be fair I don't know the written rule for this, but I think you have to win the ball to justify the follow through, and Sanchez didn't win anything.
Yeah the more I look at it...especially from the side angle....
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