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Champions League Last 16 : (13th Feb - 14th Mar)

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There's not a non-Dane in the world who'd choose Eriksen over Modric or Iniesta.
That would truly baffle me if correct.

Don't get me wrong Modric and Iniesta are some of the most elegant and intelligent players out there, but I believe Eriksen is up there too. But he's also different in a very important aspect of the game, he's got a poachers instinct almost and is a veritable chance-creating machine.

Whereas in particularly Iniesta has had players around me to score the goals Eriksen is also delivering the goods himself. Continuously.

Modric is used more defensively these days but even back in his days with Spurs he wasn't exactly a household name on the score-sheet. He is a true magician when on song little Luka and I don't think there's many - if any - players out there with his vision and game-intelligence. He just never loses possession for instance. But he needs players around him to close the deal. Same goes with Iniesta, who's an even less frequent visitor on the score-sheet but perhaps and even sweeter player to watch. He's truly ingenious and perhaps the fastest thinking player of all.

I get it, as such you shouldn't use goals/assists as a pointer to judge players with so much grace and flair like Modric and Iniesta, but if we are talking about them in the same breath as Eriksen you should at least also consider that the latter is far more dangerous in front of goal whereas he also manages to knit Spurs together. He is alongside Kane their most important player.

This season alone the Dane has bagged 8 goals and created 6 assists compared to Iniesta's 1 goal and two assists and Luka's 2 goals and 2 assists. I haven't checked past seasons but I am sure you'll find the same pattern.

Add to this that Eriksen is a marathon man on the pitch, he simply never stops running and is constantly in the Top 10 runners in the Premiership. His assist and chances created stats are top notch too so I am almost as certain as one can be, that there'd also be a few non-Dane's that pick the Spurs magician ahead of the Barca or Real ones despite how amazing they are.

And Eriksen would certainly be the player that would suit Klopp's style the most out of the three don't you think?

Fact is if he continues down the path he is on now he could end up being looked back upon PERHAPS in the same light as Zinedine Zidane. Without the head-butts and the most spectacular of Zidane's goals too mind, but still, in the same bracket and with the same hairline. Zidane is still one of my all-time favourite footballers, so I don't say that without utmost respect, but that's how good I believe Eriksen is/will be.
 
Nah, almost no chance, I recon. Lack of strength in depth and Pochettino tactical predictability will be thee undoing. I predicted they will eliminate the weakened Juve and I think they will, but at think they will fall at the first test against a truly top-tier team.
This is such an important point in my eyes and something I've attempted to touch on before. The way they play is both their biggest strength and their biggest weakness, they play a very good but very predictable system, it gets the very best out of their players (Alli wouldn't look half as good outside of this Spurs team imo), and allows them to beat most teams as the system is too strong, however they can't adapt in my opinion and the best managers will have the beating of them (as well as some plucky less managers), and in my mind that inability to throw a tactical curveball, or adapt during a game will prevent them from ever being a top top side, thankfully.
 
And Kris, I can't believe you so blatantly champion Spurs on here, because of Eriksen, or how much you overhype him. He's a good player, but Christ, he's not the second coming. If he didn't play for them you wouldn't give a fuck about Spurs.

He's a prick anyway, for the shite he came out with about us in the press after he signed for Spurs and then again before one of his first games against us (in which he was utter shit anyway).

He suits them because he's a total bellend.
Pardon? I don't champion Spurs, but as I have been kinda forced to watch them (as you say yourself I wouldn't if it wasn't for Eriksen) I have of course some insight in their players and setup. I think they have a few potential world-beaters but there are also more than a few of them I despise on the pitch. Dele for one has been a shadow of the player from the past season and his unsportsmanlike behaviour is frustrating to watch. Lamela is even worse. Kane's also got some tendencies he really needs to get rid of he is going to become the world class striker he's very much on the road to be imo. Dembele is a joy to watch and he's certainly a player that would suit us no end, and I really like Wanyama too, I have no qualms saying so even though they are not Liverpool-players.

It's a good team overall and they are often rather entertaining to watch, like last night. I don't get why you are ridiculed for actually watching and appreciating football even though it's not Liverpool-related? Anyways, that's your problem mate.

As to Eriksen being disrespectful, what on earth are you talking about? I know you have called him lazy and a luxury player before, which was also as blatantly wrong as it could be, and now this. What did he say?

Honestly you could not be more wrong about him either way, he's a very down to earth and honest lad that just wants to play ball. And he's fucking magnificent at it. I know that you'd never accept that even if he was to be voted footballer of the year, because you've made your mind up. That doesn't mean you are right though.
 
Suarez, when with us, was worse at this than every current spurs player combined.
He actually was. And probably still is.

You could also add that Gerrard were no saint either, especially in his younger years.

Boy I miss those two players, especially the latter.
 
No, you have a point – I don't know what the British commentators are saying, but wouldn't be surprised if they are overstating the extent of Spurs' dominance. It's been roughly even in terms of chances (Spurs had more shots in the 2nd half), but it's been jarring how much territory Spurs are allowed to control in Turin, the home crowd has been quieted after a raucous start and increasingly frustrated by what they see.
Not sure at what stage of the match you posted this but it ended with 67% possession and 12 (6) shots vs. 9 (5 - which includes the two penalties) shots so it wasn't exactly even though both teams should have scored more (Alli and Kane's headers for Spurs).
 
Spurs will count themselves lucky - they really should have lost that game. Higuain doesn't miss the penalty, and game over.

  • Eriksen and Dembele bossed that game - Juve were ok with that, and waited to attack them on the counter.
  • Eriksen is not 'Iniesta' though - he's yet to show he can be a player who's key on a 'winning squad'
  • Kane dove yet again ... Will his reputation ever be like Alli's?
  • Buffon was poor on Eriksen's goal ...
  • Is the Alli of this year the 'real' Alli or is it the one from last year?
I didn't think Kane dived - even in the replays I thought it was close and could have been given by another ref.
Didn't think it was Buffon's fault, his wall is there to cover that spot (maybe we could blame him for not setting it up properly) but Eriksen faked to shoot to his right so Buffon had no time to react to a ball going under his wall. Cracking play by Eriksen.

Nice 5 mins cameo from Moura. Looks like there's a lot more to come.

I don't see Spurs losing this tie now.
 
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Nah, almost no chance, I recon. Lack of strength in depth and Pochettino tactical predictability will be thee undoing. I predicted they will eliminate the weakened Juve and I think they will, but at think they will fall at the first test against a truly top-tier team.
Sorry but even a slightly weakened Juve is still an elite team (they are only missing Dybala and Matuidi from the first team whilst Spurs were missing Aldeweirald and Rose - it's anyone's guess who missed who the most but all four are expected to be back for the return match). Just look at their record prior to last night's game and the team's they've played, and tell me that is not elite standard.

Spurs have put RM to the sword and looked the business against Juve. In the past month they have beaten United adn Arsenal and played an excellent game against us for a draw at Anfield. whilst they may not win the CL they will test any team they come up against.
 
I didn't think Kane didved - even in the replays I thought it was close and could have been given by another ref.
Didn't think it was Buffon's fault, his wall is there to cover that spot (maybe we could blame him for not setting it up properly) but Eriksen faked to shoot to his right so Buffon had no time to react to a ball going under his wall. Cracking play by Eriksen.

Nice 5 mins cameo from Moura. Looks like there's a lot more to come.

I don't see Spurs losing this tie now.
Yeah, certainly nice to see a "Lucas" with some actual Brazilian skills for a change..

He could end up being one of the best signings of January couldn't he?
 
If I was a betting man, I'd throw a few quid on Spurs to win the whole thing. If they keep this form up, and get a couple of draws that suit them, they could well go the whole way. The bastards.
You're forgetting they would have to meet us in the final.
 
Fact is if he continues down the path he is on now he could end up being looked back upon PERHAPS in the same light as Zinedine Zidane

Oh my God.
 
Just for some re-evaluation purpose and PERSPECTIVE. This is Zidane's list of records:

 
It is biased yeah. What a load of tosh. "There's isn't a better player in Europe".

We just fucking sold one.
It probably is, but he's not Danish at least the author or the paper.

I still think Eriksen would've suited Barca better than Coutinho but time will tell I guess. On his day mind you I wouldn't swap Coutinho with anyone really, maybe bar Messi. I just felt that he could have a tendency to drift in and out of games - and now clubs as well.
 
And these are his individual playing honours:

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Just for some re-evaluation purpose and PERSPECTIVE. This is Zidane's list of records:

Yeah as said one of my favourite players of all time Zidane. And it's an impressive list of honours but it does feel slightly unfair to include his managerial accolades and to some extent the Int. ones as well, seeing as one is playing for one of the best teams in the world and the other for a minor in that comparison.

I watched Zidane week in week out as I was following Juventus as a kid/young man as much as I was Liverpool so I have actually seen more or less all of his games in a longer period of his career. Just as I now have Eriksen and there are some clear comparisons to make between the two in terms of style and impact, and at the age of 26 (it's actually Eriksen's 26th Birthday today so remember to put a flag in your cake later on) I guess they were MUCH comparable also in terms of honours.

Are you aware that Zidane was already 24-years-old when he joined Juve as an almost unknown player from Bordeaux? Eriksen has been performing at a much higher level than Zidane did at the same age and are now a pivotal player for a club aiming for the Champions League trophy. There's a long way to go still for Eriksen to end up in Zidane's bracket but he's on the right path.
 
It probably is, but he's not Danish at least the author or the paper.

I still think Eriksen would've suited Barca better than Coutinho but time will tell I guess. On his day mind you I wouldn't swap Coutinho with anyone really, maybe bar Messi. I just felt that he could have a tendency to drift in and out of games - and now clubs as well.

I think Coutinho will eventually go into the front three, so maybe the whole "Iniesta replacement" thing is a bit misguided, he'll up his goals (because he generally has per season) and he'll be a threat. Eriksen would be a good shout in the midfield.
 
And these are his individual playing honours:

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If you really want to do this the proper way shouldn't it at least take into consideration their age? I mean then you could go up to '98 as that was the year Zidane turned 26 and look at it from that perspective. And that was the year when a masterclass France team orchestrated by Zidane won the WC on home soil and from there on in his career really took off.

Again Zidane back then was playing alongside Int. teammates Eriksen could only dream of for Denmark why their Int. careers won't be much comparable, that's highly unlikely at least even with the current influx of Danish talent around Europe in mind.

Anyways, I have watched them both play +100 times, and I am basing my judgement on that and nothing else. We'll see what happens.
 
I think Coutinho will eventually go into the front three, so maybe the whole "Iniesta replacement" thing is a bit misguided, he'll up his goals (because he generally has per season) and he'll be a threat. Eriksen would be a good shout in the midfield.
I think you are right, and I don't think they are writing off Iniesta for at least a couple of seasons more either, he's actually not even that old, and his sheer routine is as important as his physique in his current role in their team.
 
In the history of internet forumming, I’ve never come across anyone more hopelessly biased than khl.
 
Arguing that Christian Eriksen is better than Iniesta and could match Zidane.

I can’t be any more polite than call you a fucking moron.
 
I have recently put a fair amount of money on Liverpool to win the Champions League at 14/1. I can see parallels with 2005 when Liverpool weren't being considered as potential winners at this stage.
No reason why we can't win it. In 2005 we finished 37 points off top, we finished level with Bolton on points and we lost 14 league games. We are a much stronger team now and 14/1 is a decent bet.
 
No reason why we can't win it. In 2005 we finished 37 points off top, we finished level with Bolton on points and we lost 14 league games. We are a much stronger team now and 14/1 is a decent bet.

I remember listening to a radio discussion on BBC Radio 5 Live in 2005. They had a bunch of football journalists in the studio and were discussing prospects in the CL for the English clubs who had reached the knockout stage. The London-based journos banged on about the chances of Chelsea and Arsenal. "What about Liverpool" said the presenter towards the end of the discussion.

"Oh, they are only there to make up the numbers," said one of the experts.
 
Arguing that Christian Eriksen is better than Iniesta and could match Zidane.

I can’t be any more polite than call you a fucking moron.
That wasn't polite at all.

I don't recall saying that Eriksen is downright better than Iniesta though, but I would be extremely surprised if no-one would pick him ahead of the +30 Spaniard. And then I came up with a few reasons why. Goals, assists, importance, work-rate.

You haven't contributed at all, just throwing insults at me. It's not a very interesting or enlightening way to argue, so let's leave it there shall we.
 
That wasn't polite at all.

I don't recall saying that Eriksen is downright better than Iniesta though, but I would be extremely surprised if no-one would pick him ahead of the +30 Spaniard. And then I came up with a few reasons why. Goals, assists, importance, work-rate.

You haven't contributed at all, just throwing insults at me. It's not a very interesting or enlightening way to argue, so let's leave it there shall we.

I haven't followed this, because I'm not sufficiently interested, but if the question is "who would you prefer in Liverpool's team RIGHT NOW?", then I'd say only a moron wouldn't choose Eriksen.
 
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