Can we find the Lavia?
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Could be the structure and payment terms as well. But if we want him then just pay the 5 mill. The market is fucked and we havent got the time to drag this even further.
Lavia hasnt played much in pre season so he wont be ready for Chelsea anyway is my guess.
Checked on the Southampton website. He's played in all 5 of Southampton's pre-season games.
Here are his performances from just the last week. Looks pretty sharp to me.
He’s played 150 mins total in those 5 games. In their last match he played 17 mins.
Would at least need significant game time in our final pre season game.
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But not all at once and for most of the season! Perfect storm scenario.
Andre is not a 6, he is much closer to CJ in the way he plays. We still need a proper 6. If FSG won't go to £50m and Southampton won't come down from £50m, just move on. Get Alvarez or Mats Weiffer (if you're wondering why I am not mentioning Fofana, he was out injured the other day. Koop signed an extension. Even my list of players is drying up). Alvarez is class and at 6ft 1 can play CB (on either side).
It’s usually 20% on the fee they get minus the cost.
So it’s not 20% of £50m.
They paid £10m rising to £14m - so the 20% would be applicable on £36-£40m which is about £7-£8m.
Therefore they get £42-43m & City get £7-8m - we pay £50m.
Southampton are clearly holding out to net a little over the £40m that City would need to pay next season to get him.
Again. This is assuming City would want him. Why would they? This isn't City's market at all.
We don’t obviously value at £50 million. In fact I’ll wager we value him at our initial bid of just over £30 million plus some additionals based on the fact that he’s homegrown. Some club WILL pay the £50 million, likely the chavs or skanks but not us.
There is a whiff of the Jamal Lewis saga about this where we refused to pay more than £10 million that Norwich wanted; we got Tsimikas instead and Lewis went on to Newcastle for half as much again as we had offered.
There is a whiff of the Jamal Lewis saga about this where we refused to pay more than £10 million that Norwich wanted; we got Tsimikas instead and Lewis went on to Newcastle for half as much again as we had offered.
That’s probably why we’re haggling, isn’t it.
Who’s to say City won’t want him in a year’s time - no-one can say for sure either way - but it exists as a marker for what So’ton could get.
We’re likely arguing that the City deal isn’t going to happen and this is the best offer they’ll get.
Meanwhile, they’ll counter with a “we think it will happen, so pay up” and they can play that effectively because Chelsea would likely pay it, they’re under no obligation to sell and they know we’re in need.
Getting promoted is worth more than £40m anyway, so there’s that too.
Agree.
Quite possibly.
Disagree.
I suppose it is, are you assuming Lewis in Lavia and Kostas is Andre here? Doesn't mean we'll be worst off for it does it? Don't think I've ever seen Lewis playing in the Prem for Newcastle.
Zzzzz they aren't in for him, they don't need him and wouldn't pay £50m for him.
Dunno about that....it's Utd we're talking here.
Plus if they're getting rid of both Fred and Mctomminay......Leaves Casemiro as their only DM? Also they've been targeting Amrabat for a few weeks now.
Their squad (exc. youngsters) is 30 strong and both Fred (17) and McTominay (39) have squad numbers. I'd bet McTomminay (squad, no one's buying him at their £40m valuation) and Fred (back up to Casamiro) are both there at the start of the season.
Plus they'll soon have Amrabat too as Hansern says. They absolutely don't need Lavia at £50m.
I wouldn't mind this thread being a waste of time if the title didn't annoy me every time I saw it.
No. Its not profit on sale. Its 20% on total sale on this one from what I've read.
Isn't that from Duncan Castles, the Manc reporter? Saints are also in need of a sale to balance the budget with West Ham walking away from JWP, I believe.
If they did that - then I hope we just walk away. Our owners have history of making silly fuck up decisions on player purchases when the pressure (lack of time) really piles up on us.
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