British Manager for LFC
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[quote author=Rosco link=topic=40043.msg1097469#msg1097469 date=1272788539]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=40043.msg1097466#msg1097466 date=1272788321]
For me it would be Moyes or Hodgson (not particularly keen on either for various reasons though).
Moyes has it in him to be a very good manager at a big club imo, and I guess Hodgson could to a decent job of steadying the ship for a couple of years.
MON is unbelievably overrated, he's got a net spend of £88 million over the last 4 years and what has he actually achieved at Villa?
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The same as David O'Leary is the answer. But PR is everything.
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I think even John Gregory's record at Villa is a match for MON's achievements.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=40043.msg1097466#msg1097466 date=1272788321]
For me it would be Moyes or Hodgson (not particularly keen on either for various reasons though).
Moyes has it in him to be a very good manager at a big club imo, and I guess Hodgson could to a decent job of steadying the ship for a couple of years.
MON is unbelievably overrated, he's got a net spend of £88 million over the last 4 years and what has he actually achieved at Villa?
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The same as David O'Leary is the answer. But PR is everything.
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I think even John Gregory's record at Villa is a match for MON's achievements.
Just read Hodgson's wikipedia entry. He's really had a weird, journeyman career, hasn't he? We'd all have laughed our heads off if he'd been suggested as Liverpool manager two or three years ago.
All except the Swedes, Swiss and Finns anyway.
All except the Swedes, Swiss and Finns anyway.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40043.msg1097505#msg1097505 date=1272791037]
If we're going after the likes of Hodgson, I say fuck it - let's just go out guns blazing and bring in Rijkard.
At least he'd have us playing 5 strikers and a no defenders.
We may be shit in defense, but by God we'd be exciting to watch.
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Two Words.
Roy.
Evans.
If we're going after the likes of Hodgson, I say fuck it - let's just go out guns blazing and bring in Rijkard.
At least he'd have us playing 5 strikers and a no defenders.
We may be shit in defense, but by God we'd be exciting to watch.
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Two Words.
Roy.
Evans.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40043.msg1097540#msg1097540 date=1272793544]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40043.msg1097505#msg1097505 date=1272791037]
If we're going after the likes of Hodgson, I say fuck it - let's just go out guns blazing and bring in Rijkard.
At least he'd have us playing 5 strikers and a no defenders.
We may be shit in defense, but by God we'd be exciting to watch.
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Two Words.
Roy.
Evans.
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At the risk of sounding like Rashid, I'd take a few seasons of playing nice football and finishing third or fourth right now.
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40043.msg1097505#msg1097505 date=1272791037]
If we're going after the likes of Hodgson, I say fuck it - let's just go out guns blazing and bring in Rijkard.
At least he'd have us playing 5 strikers and a no defenders.
We may be shit in defense, but by God we'd be exciting to watch.
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Two Words.
Roy.
Evans.
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At the risk of sounding like Rashid, I'd take a few seasons of playing nice football and finishing third or fourth right now.
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[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40043.msg1097540#msg1097540 date=1272793544]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40043.msg1097505#msg1097505 date=1272791037]
If we're going after the likes of Hodgson, I say fuck it - let's just go out guns blazing and bring in Rijkard.
At least he'd have us playing 5 strikers and a no defenders.
We may be shit in defense, but by God we'd be exciting to watch.
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Two Words.
Roy.
Evans.
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At the risk of sounding like Rashid, I'd take a few seasons of playing nice football and finishing third or fourth right now.
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Actually, I take that back.
I was talking rubbish. Sorry.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=40043.msg1097540#msg1097540 date=1272793544]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40043.msg1097505#msg1097505 date=1272791037]
If we're going after the likes of Hodgson, I say fuck it - let's just go out guns blazing and bring in Rijkard.
At least he'd have us playing 5 strikers and a no defenders.
We may be shit in defense, but by God we'd be exciting to watch.
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Two Words.
Roy.
Evans.
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At the risk of sounding like Rashid, I'd take a few seasons of playing nice football and finishing third or fourth right now.
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Actually, I take that back.
I was talking rubbish. Sorry.
Uncle Roy had some of the best English talent at his finger tips and got us playing some absolutely lovely football. Ultimately though, his lack of defensive nous cost him his job.
It was never a dull moment with his teams - especially when the opposition got down near our corner flag.
It was never a dull moment with his teams - especially when the opposition got down near our corner flag.
"Hodgy"
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40043.msg1097513#msg1097513 date=1272791351]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40043.msg1097510#msg1097510 date=1272791268]
In terms of the league, hasn't McCleish outperformed Hodgson?
I'm thinking he has.
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Hasn't he spent shitloads more money as well?
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Birmingham City Transfers:
Players In:
Christian Benitez (Santos Laguna - Birmingham City) Loan with option to buy for 5.6M
Scott Dann (Coventry City - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
Joe Hart (Man City - Birmingham City) Season-Long Loan Deal
Giovanny Espinoza (Barcelona Sporting Club - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
Roger Johnson (Cardiff City - Birmingham City) £5million
Barry Ferguson (Rangers - Birmingham City) £1million
Gregory Vignal (RC Lens - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
So McCleish turned the Championship's runners up into a top 9 prem side with a spend of 6M.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40043.msg1097510#msg1097510 date=1272791268]
In terms of the league, hasn't McCleish outperformed Hodgson?
I'm thinking he has.
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Hasn't he spent shitloads more money as well?
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Birmingham City Transfers:
Players In:
Christian Benitez (Santos Laguna - Birmingham City) Loan with option to buy for 5.6M
Scott Dann (Coventry City - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
Joe Hart (Man City - Birmingham City) Season-Long Loan Deal
Giovanny Espinoza (Barcelona Sporting Club - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
Roger Johnson (Cardiff City - Birmingham City) £5million
Barry Ferguson (Rangers - Birmingham City) £1million
Gregory Vignal (RC Lens - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
So McCleish turned the Championship's runners up into a top 9 prem side with a spend of 6M.
I'd take Hodgy out of the names mentioned, but how do you think that would sit with our bigger stars? Would Masher sign a new contact? Would Nando get pissed off? Stevie?
I realise that no player is bigger than the club, but some could well be offski very quickly.
Be careful what you wish for. Rafa may or may not be gone, I have no idea, but I very much doubt that Torres will stay unless we show more ambition than Uncle Woy II, the sequel .
I realise that no player is bigger than the club, but some could well be offski very quickly.
Be careful what you wish for. Rafa may or may not be gone, I have no idea, but I very much doubt that Torres will stay unless we show more ambition than Uncle Woy II, the sequel .
If Torres wants to fuck off after one bad season then he's welcome to go.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40043.msg1097574#msg1097574 date=1272795735]
If Torres wants to fuck off after one bad season then he's welcome to go.
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It isn't just about him though is it? He has agents and advisers all of whom will be trying to get a slice of his next contract. It is world cup year, and here in Spain Football is a god like creation, with Nando near the top of the pile.
I'm sure he has some loyalty to Liverpool and if Rafa stays or another top European manager is instated I could see him staying. But I fear the worst if we appoint Hodgson, Gollum, Mcleish etc. His advisers would have a field day.
The trouble is his advisers will not have his nor Liverpools interests at heart.
If Torres wants to fuck off after one bad season then he's welcome to go.
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It isn't just about him though is it? He has agents and advisers all of whom will be trying to get a slice of his next contract. It is world cup year, and here in Spain Football is a god like creation, with Nando near the top of the pile.
I'm sure he has some loyalty to Liverpool and if Rafa stays or another top European manager is instated I could see him staying. But I fear the worst if we appoint Hodgson, Gollum, Mcleish etc. His advisers would have a field day.
The trouble is his advisers will not have his nor Liverpools interests at heart.
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[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40043.msg1097574#msg1097574 date=1272795735]
If Torres wants to fuck off after one bad season then he's welcome to go.
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It isn't just about him though is it? He has agents and advisers all of whom will be trying to get a slice of his next contract. It is world cup year, and here in Spain Football is a god like creation, with Nando near the top of the pile.
I'm sure he has some loyalty to Liverpool and if Rafa stays or another top European manager is instated I could see him staying. But I fear the worst if we appoint Hodgson, Gollum, Mcleish etc. His advisers would have a field day.
The trouble is his advisers will not have his nor Liverpools interests at heart.
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He's a grown man mate and can make his own decisions. Ultimately he'll make the final decision.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=40043.msg1097574#msg1097574 date=1272795735]
If Torres wants to fuck off after one bad season then he's welcome to go.
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It isn't just about him though is it? He has agents and advisers all of whom will be trying to get a slice of his next contract. It is world cup year, and here in Spain Football is a god like creation, with Nando near the top of the pile.
I'm sure he has some loyalty to Liverpool and if Rafa stays or another top European manager is instated I could see him staying. But I fear the worst if we appoint Hodgson, Gollum, Mcleish etc. His advisers would have a field day.
The trouble is his advisers will not have his nor Liverpools interests at heart.
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He's a grown man mate and can make his own decisions. Ultimately he'll make the final decision.
I don't want a British manager
There aren't any
There aren't any
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40043.msg1097584#msg1097584 date=1272797452]
I don't want a British manager
There aren't any
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id be happy for carragher to take over
I don't want a British manager
There aren't any
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id be happy for carragher to take over
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40043.msg1097598#msg1097598 date=1272798715]
IF we had to go British, I would take King Kenny back.
Yeh, he's been out of the game for yonks, but that romanticism behind it turns me on.
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Not as a permanent appointment, but I'd be happy to see him minding the shop while we make damn sure we get the right man, including waiting for him to become available if that's what it takes.
IF we had to go British, I would take King Kenny back.
Yeh, he's been out of the game for yonks, but that romanticism behind it turns me on.
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Not as a permanent appointment, but I'd be happy to see him minding the shop while we make damn sure we get the right man, including waiting for him to become available if that's what it takes.
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=40043.msg1097600#msg1097600 date=1272798929]
I think we should go after Alonso. The position of manager would tempt him back. No doubt.
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it's too late now they can't afford his transfer fee
I think we should go after Alonso. The position of manager would tempt him back. No doubt.
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it's too late now they can't afford his transfer fee
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=40043.msg1097598#msg1097598 date=1272798715]
IF we had to go British, I would take King Kenny back.
Yeh, he's been out of the game for yonks, but that romanticism behind it turns me on.
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That really is a non starter Ro-Land. Almost as mad as installing Carra. I mean Kenny has a reputation to protect which is unlikely to remain in tact as he's been out of the game for over a decade.
Carra has passion for the club in spades, but manager? Fuck off!
IF we had to go British, I would take King Kenny back.
Yeh, he's been out of the game for yonks, but that romanticism behind it turns me on.
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That really is a non starter Ro-Land. Almost as mad as installing Carra. I mean Kenny has a reputation to protect which is unlikely to remain in tact as he's been out of the game for over a decade.
Carra has passion for the club in spades, but manager? Fuck off!
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40043.msg1097562#msg1097562 date=1272795014]
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40043.msg1097513#msg1097513 date=1272791351]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40043.msg1097510#msg1097510 date=1272791268]
In terms of the league, hasn't McCleish outperformed Hodgson?
I'm thinking he has.
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Hasn't he spent shitloads more money as well?
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Birmingham City Transfers:
Players In:
Christian Benitez (Santos Laguna - Birmingham City) Loan with option to buy for 5.6M
Scott Dann (Coventry City - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
Joe Hart (Man City - Birmingham City) Season-Long Loan Deal
Giovanny Espinoza (Barcelona Sporting Club - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
Roger Johnson (Cardiff City - Birmingham City) £5million
Barry Ferguson (Rangers - Birmingham City) £1million
Gregory Vignal (RC Lens - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
So McCleish turned the Championship's runners up into a top 9 prem side with a spend of 6M.
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Fair enough.
I still don't want him though. He's a ginge.
[quote author=TheBunnyman link=topic=40043.msg1097513#msg1097513 date=1272791351]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40043.msg1097510#msg1097510 date=1272791268]
In terms of the league, hasn't McCleish outperformed Hodgson?
I'm thinking he has.
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Hasn't he spent shitloads more money as well?
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Birmingham City Transfers:
Players In:
Christian Benitez (Santos Laguna - Birmingham City) Loan with option to buy for 5.6M
Scott Dann (Coventry City - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
Joe Hart (Man City - Birmingham City) Season-Long Loan Deal
Giovanny Espinoza (Barcelona Sporting Club - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
Roger Johnson (Cardiff City - Birmingham City) £5million
Barry Ferguson (Rangers - Birmingham City) £1million
Gregory Vignal (RC Lens - Birmingham City) Undisclosed Fee
So McCleish turned the Championship's runners up into a top 9 prem side with a spend of 6M.
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Fair enough.
I still don't want him though. He's a ginge.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40043.msg1097510#msg1097510 date=1272791268]
In terms of the league, hasn't McCleish outperformed Hodgson?
I'm thinking he has.
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Four points behind with a game in hand.
Hodgson has hardly been shit on by Mcleish Doc.
In terms of the league, hasn't McCleish outperformed Hodgson?
I'm thinking he has.
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Four points behind with a game in hand.
Hodgson has hardly been shit on by Mcleish Doc.
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