Boxing please

[Judge Jules]

One usually has to practically disembowel an American fighter in America to win over there, but in fairness (a) one of the judges was a Brit and (b) I wonder how many sets of judges anywhere would give a decision - rightly or wrongly - to a guy who's been knocked down twice without achieving a knockdown of his own.

There'll obv.be a rematch. Will Wilder dare to agree to stage the fight over here?

 

[My_Blood_Bleeds_Red]

I dont care what anyone else says, but to get back up from depression, mental illness, obesity, boxing ban and two Wilder knockdowns, that takes a lot of heart. And that gets a thumbs up from me.

And btw, anyone who follows a thing or two about boxing will know you never get back up when Wilder catches someone clean. Arguably the hardest puncher boxing has ever seen for a long time. And Fury got back up like it was nothing. Mind you, it was the 12th round, not the first. You're fighting against fatigue too.

 

[dmishra]

Joshua would destroy both these chumps.

 

[Rafiagra]

And Fury got back up like it was nothing. Mind you, it was the 12th round, not the first. You're fighting against fatigue too.

Here's the thing..I don't think he got up like it was nothing. He was out for the count but something in him triggered when he saw the count (at about 6 I think). Incredibly his legs responded and he did unbelievably well to get through the next 30 seconds. I still can't believe he got back up and although that knock down ultimately cost him the fight/title, he's gone up even more in my estimation that he would have done just by boxing Wilder to victory. I bet when he looks back at the fight, he'll be pretty pissed with both knock downs - shouldn't have got caught for the first one and he took his eyes off him for the second.

Wilder is a strange one though. He just stalks round the ring with his right arm poised like a scorpion waiting to sting. It really is all his got. However, what a weapon it is.

 

[MomoWASright]

AJ fighting Millar in MSG at the start of June. Not surprised considering Wilder and fury wouldn’t negotiate a deal.

 

[Mors]

AJ fighting Millar in MSG at the start of June. Not surprised considering Wilder and fury wouldn’t negotiate a deal.

That fatboy he's going to fight came in at 300lb+ his last couple of fights, he's gonna be done after about 3 if he can last that long.
I don't think Fury or Wilder were interested in the pittance he and his team have been offering people. Both Wilder and Fury made 10mill+ from their last fight, Joshua had offered Whyte 2.5mill full stop for a fight, and Wilder/Fury not much more, I'm not surprised they told him to jog on. They're better off refusing any of his offers, becoming mandatory for one of his belts and waiting for the purse bids split.

 

[MomoWASright]

They were offered a 40% split with a guaranteed rematch. That was fairly acceptable in my opinion. That would’ve smashed the 10 million.

Is there an interest in him fighting Whyte again? He’d smash him in 4. Whyte was behind on the cards against Chisora and Joshua is levels above him.

 

[Mors]

I don't believe for a minute they offered Fury 40% with no belt, no chance. Maybe Wilder, maybe, but I'm guessing he could be a funny bugger trying to get closer to a 50/50. Also, Wilder knows that when he loses to Joshua, he's done for big pay days, so why not try and get another out of Fury before the big final Joshua one (although I think he'll lose the rematch).
Whyte is going to be mandatory if he beats brejazzle, which he should do as he's shit. I don't rate Whyte, but to be fair to him he's been on a tear, and deserves a shot more than any of the others.

 

[MomoWASright]

It can’t be money with Fury. Before the Klitschko fight he kept saying he’s not bothered by money. He reiterated it again before the Wilder fight. He said on the Costello and Bunce camp something about morcambe being a shit hole and couldn’t spend all the money he has.

I can imagine Hearn trying to low ball them at the start with 60:40 being the final offer.

Both Wilder and Fury know they’ll lose against AJ. So they fight again hoping to then get that bigger pay day against Joshua. The loser won’t get a shot for 2 more years at least.

Isn’t Whyte only mandatory for the WBC and has been for 2 years. The WBC are protecting Wilder for some reason and hasn’t ordered the fight.

 

[Mors]

It's weird setup with the WBC, they've got like a no 1 contender and the mandatory, and then they go and order a rematch between Fury and Wilder, with Fury having no right to a shot at all. I think they're just trying to protect their brand with big names. The winner of Whyte and Brejazzle won't be fighting for the belt next either, it'll be Joshua, it's all fucked up.

 

[MomoWASright]

So the heavyweight trio won’t be fighting soon. Fury just signed to ESPN, Wilder is with Showtime and AJ is with DAZN. It’s historically difficult to get fighters contracted to different networks to fight. So I guess they’ll avoid each other for a year or 2.

Anyway here is some faux bad blood between Millar and AJ.

 

[Mors]

Miller looks like that fucker out of the ninja turtles.
Aj is incapable of doing any sort of bad blood or trash talking, his best bet is to swan around showing off ala Mayweather.
It does look a big dicey with the 3 main HW's all signed to different promoters now, and that twat Arum is in the frame for Fury now too. And the aversion of the belt organisations to name a fighter as mandatory for a belt if he holds a belt elsewhere.

On another note, I think De Gale has brain damage. He's on about that Eubank has to retire if he loses to him. At the grand old age of 29. Dickhead.

 

[MomoWASright]

If De Gale beats him then where else does Eubank Jnr go? He’s been beaten by every world level boxer he’s faced and won’t really get any better.

 

[ibromurph]

If De Gale beats him then where else does Eubank Jnr go? He’s been beaten by every world level boxer he’s faced and won’t really get any better.

Needs to go back down to Middleweight.

Thing is, in both his defeats to BJS and Groves, he was never beaten up. Often he's the bull charging forward, being outclassed and outpointed by the better boxer, but he's never actually been beaten up in a fight. Which is why at his age, he could continue.

 

[Judge Jules]

A mate who's a big boxing fan tells me Eubank is favourite - just - with the bookies.

Incredibly hard one to call IMO. I think it'll go the distance but I haven't a scooby who'll win.

 

[Mors]

If De Gale beats him then where else does Eubank Jnr go? He’s been beaten by every world level boxer he’s faced and won’t really get any better.

He clowned Saunders as the thought he was going to knock him out, whilst Saunders plodded along. When it dawned on him he wasn't going to get the ko, he battered him and lost the decision. Foolish, but he was the much much better fighter in that one.
Vs Groves he lost a tight one, he did get beat, but it was a close decision.
So he's lost twice in his entire career, by decision, that he could have quite easily have won. He's never been ko'd or dominated. And he's 29. If he lost vs de gale, then won 3 on the spin, he'd be mandatory for 1 of the 500 belts.

 

[MomoWASright]

No doubt he can win 3 on the bounce but that would be against that lower tier of fighter. Then get his shot.

He couldn’t drop to middleweight to look for a title as he’d be schooled by Alvarez and GGG. He couldn’t complete with someone like smith at super middleweight.

 

[FoxForceFive]

Eubank literally has had DeGale on the ropes a couple of times this second round.

DeGale recovered pretty well at the end of the round though.

 

[FoxForceFive]

Eubank seems to have so much more energy than DeGale here, had him stunned a couple of times & didn't let up despite it being the tenth round. Didn't have quite enough to KO DeGale though.

Eubank miles ahead on points for any sane judge regardless.

 

[FoxForceFive]

Hahaha. Eubank just shoulder charged DeGale & threw him down to the mat!

Bizarre decision in the 11th round. Point deducted.

DeGale looks fucked here. Dunno how he's still standing.

 

[FoxForceFive]

Eubank wins unanimously on points. Deservedly so.

Still think he isn't top level, but that was an impressive performance tonight.

 

[MomoWASright]

All Eubank. He was mature in the ring. He let DeGale do all the work and kept hitting him with power shots.

That power slam point deduction was ridiculous as DeGale constantly was jumping up in the air. It was always going to happen.

 

[FoxForceFive]

All Eubank. He was mature in the ring. He let DeGale do all the work and kept hitting him with power shots.

That power slam point deduction was ridiculous as DeGale constantly was jumping up in the air. It was always going to happen.

Yeah, it was really telling how often he jumped when Eubank leaned into him, he just didn't have the strength to push back against him legally without tiring would be my guess. Still though Eubank was a bit niave to push through him the way he did, but I suspect the aggression stemmed from him not being able to keep him on the deck.

Had the fight been stopped around round 9 I don't think there'd have been many complaints tbh.

 

[MomoWASright]

Reports coming out stating Wilder is signing with DAZN with an AJ fight October to December time.

GGG also signed up so we’ll get a third instalment against Canello.

 

[Mors]

DAZN locking up all the big fighters. Hope their model works out, considering how much they're overpaying people like canelo. I can see the logic - 10quid a month so 120quid a year, and they're banking on that means more people would do that than buy 2x ppv's at say 50quid. Ppv's for boxing are dead. Only problem is if piracy does them in.
Re GGG, yeah I read that he'd get a warm up and they'd look to do it again later in the year. But if he wins, which I hope he does, then what? It's 2-1 Canelo, and he'll demand a rematch, then maybe 2-2 - where does it stop?

 

[MomoWASright]

It’ll be 1-1-1 then maybe another?

 

[dmishra]

Golovkin won't outpoint Canelo - Canelo's too clever a boxer to allow that. He'll have to knock him out, and given the evidence of the last two fights, that's unlikely to happen. Golovkin's getting slower by the day, and Canelo is a tough motherfucker.

 

[Mors]

Reports saying Wilder the mad bastard has turned down a 100mill deal with dazn, 3 fights, 2x joshua and 1x brejazzle. He must be off his rocker if he's turned that down. I can't see where he makes more money than that.

 

[Rosco]

Fowler fought a fella i've beaten up.

So i wouldn't read too much into it

So this comment I made previously about the Irish fella I had a run in with. He coaches in a local boxing club and seems to have gotten himself in trouble.

 

[MomoWASright]

Hahahahaha