Wilder probably thought Fury was going to be rusty and unprepared after his lay off and becoming a fat fuck, otherwise I doubt he'd have taken the risk.
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Wilder probably thought Fury was going to be rusty and unprepared after his lay off and becoming a fat fuck, otherwise I doubt he'd have taken the risk.
Really? So offering Wilder more than the sum of his previous 7 or so fights is undervalued?
Wilder brings 1 belt. AJ all the others.
AJ being a cash cow and dodger is the biggest cliche in boxing.
Dantes got it spot on with Wilder and Fury. Why haven’t they sorted their rematch yet? Because both are scared of losing.
Wilder signs up for an Ortiz fight before AJs fight. Yet AJ is running.
Fury is the biggest gobshite in the sport. Says he’s not in it for the money then turns down tens of millions for AJ then signs with ESPN. That ensures he won’t fight AJ. Yet AJ is running.
Joshua won’t give anyone 50%. The reason being is he’s the attraction with the belts. Lewis would’ve done the same. Any other heavyweight champion with more belts than the opponent would demand at least 60%.
Dantes got it spot on with Wilder and Fury. Why haven’t they sorted their rematch yet? Because both are scared of losing.
Wilder signs up for an Ortiz fight before AJs fight. Yet AJ is running.
Fury is the biggest gobshite in the sport. Says he’s not in it for the money then turns down tens of millions for AJ then signs with ESPN. That ensures he won’t fight AJ. Yet AJ is running.
Joshua won’t give anyone 50%. The reason being is he’s the attraction with the belts. Lewis would’ve done the same. Any other heavyweight champion with more belts than the opponent would demand at least 60%.
You're fooling yourself. Wilder is an unbeaten Heavyweight champion. If you think Hearn wanted to make the fight you're nuts.
Can I just say Sky asking £20 for people to watch AJ fight the 70th rated boxer in the world is a fucking disgrace.
By the way, I'm not blaming Joshua for this. I think he's potentially great fighter, but Hearn is fucking killing his reputation.
By the way, I'm not blaming Joshua for this. I think he's potentially great fighter, but Hearn is fucking killing his reputation.
AJ is unbeaten. Wilder wouldn’t want that fight.
So allegedly aj is going to fight Fury after he knocks out this fat cunt in about 20seconds, as Wilder is off doing his own thing. I'm not what Fury's motivation will be after aj and heard offer fury the usual 50quid that they've been offering everyone else. Sure, aj gets the lions share as he has the belts, but they're just mugging everyone off so ending up with bum fights.
That’s the issue. They’re all blaming each other when they’re equally culpable.
Nah, I follow the boxing news almost as much as LFC news.
Def Wilders' team ducking AJ. Not the man himself though. As they are all boxers and they all want to fight each other. On their own terms. (fighters' pride)
They've signed a 3 fight deal to fight Breazeale, Ortiz 2 and Adam Kownacki. Basically all fighters Deontay should beat easily (now Ortiz is nearly 50).
Basically they are delaying the fight as much as possible because they know Wilder's stock is going up and up in America, riding off AJs/Furys' name, and by knocking out these fighters in spectacular fashion. It's a smart business move.
In the meantime, he knows that AJ has some tough mandatories around the corner (Usyk and Whyte in particular).. they probably hope he loses or looks bad in winning and his stock takes a further hit, making their prospective a more even purse split when they do fight.
WIlder has announced overnight that he's signed a contract to fight Fury after Ortiz lolololol
Aj isn't going to have anyone to fight after fatboy. He'll have to go crawling back to Whyte and make him a proper offer, and try to sell to the world that it's a super fight.
My prediction would be, Fury beats Wilder and takes the belt, fights aj immediately after, beats him by jabbing and clowning and pissing about for 12 rounds just generally being elusive, wins all the belts then retires telling the world he's the greatest hw of all time.
Aj isn't going to have anyone to fight after fatboy. He'll have to go crawling back to Whyte and make him a proper offer, and try to sell to the world that it's a super fight.
My prediction would be, Fury beats Wilder and takes the belt, fights aj immediately after, beats him by jabbing and clowning and pissing about for 12 rounds just generally being elusive, wins all the belts then retires telling the world he's the greatest hw of all time.
I haven’t seen the fight. Was he that poor?
Will Wilder be gutted he signed up Ortiz? He could’ve unified the belts easier.
Will Wilder be gutted he signed up Ortiz? He could’ve unified the belts easier.
Joshua looked absolute pants last night. He wasn't right at all. He looks utterly bemused when one of his big shots doesn't get the other guy out of there. He was jabbing fairly steadily enough early doors, but with no real force behind them, and then later he was just very lightly jabbing to Ruiz body with the force of a 5yr old.
Wilder/Fury/Whyte/Usyk would have murdered him last night.
Wilder/Fury/Whyte/Usyk would have murdered him last night.
He was dreadful. Got caught with a few heavy punches to the side of the head & never recovered. Completely forgot to use his jab properly which would have taken Ruiz out of the fight. Bizarre.
What was Smith’s performance like? Impressive enough to encourage a fight with Caleno/GGG?
Anybody that tags him puts him on skates for a few minutes, in truth hes been lucky to stay undefeated this long. I dont see any way he survives more than 6 rounds against Wilder. The American is pretty crude technically but AJ doesnt have the skill to not get hit by something heavy and once that happens hes done.
Also whoever does his strength and conditioning training should be fired, he was gasping for air after 3 rounds. Hes carrying way too much muscle and as a result hes slow, stiff and runs out of energy quickly.
I think with the size that joshua is, he should focus on being ridiculously aggressive the fist 6 rounds and bang everyone out of there. He showed virtually no aggression vs Ruiz and we all know what happened then. I think he thinks of himself of a Lennox Lewis sort, when he's not, he's more like fucking Bruno.
Wilder would knock AJ's head off, and I suspect Hearn has always figured this. He has done all he can to evade putting his man in with Wylder, and we can all see why after that fight. RedStar's right, every single time he's taken a decent punch he has been rocked to the core, and taken several rounds to get his bearings. It happened against Whyte, and it happened against Klitschko. The fact is that much as Fury completely outboxed Wylder, he needed an awakening worthy of Lazarus to beat the count. As someone said, Wylder is technically poor, and a one trick pony, but by fuck it's a good trick. Fury will be sharper the next time they fight and might avoid getting sparked, but I think it is 50/50. Weirdly, AJ might be better fitted to fighting Fury. Awkward cuss that he is, he doesn't have a real hammer in his fists. The good news is that the HW division isn't in the hands of Eddie Hearn anymore. He would have been happy putting his man up against bums forever.
The more I see of aj the more I think you're right and wilder would splat him. Fury would defo beat him as aj just can't box, and fury can, and would frustrate the shit of of aj staying way out of reach of his lazy, slow jab.
The question with fighting wilder is whether he gets close and fancies a brawl, then aj's strength could do him over. But if wilder boxes him, then aj could be in the shit.
Nothing has changed my mind with all these results, I still think Fury beats them all. Not because he's good, because he's massively long and awkward, and wily. If he beats the pair of them by the end of next year, he might aswell retire. He'll have made about 200mill and the rest of the division is full of donkeys.
The question with fighting wilder is whether he gets close and fancies a brawl, then aj's strength could do him over. But if wilder boxes him, then aj could be in the shit.
Nothing has changed my mind with all these results, I still think Fury beats them all. Not because he's good, because he's massively long and awkward, and wily. If he beats the pair of them by the end of next year, he might aswell retire. He'll have made about 200mill and the rest of the division is full of donkeys.
Time boxers got head guard as mandatory. RIP
Maxim Dadashev dies after boxing injuries sustained against Subriel Matias
Dadashev had won all of his previous 13 fights
Russian boxer Maxim Dadashev has died at the age of 28 following injuries suffered in his IBF light-welterweight fight against Subriel Matias.
Dadashev was reportedly unable to walk to the dressing room after his bout was stopped by trainer Buddy McGirt at the end of the 11th round on Friday.
He was hospitalised with bleeding on the brain and underwent emergency surgery but failed to recover.
The Russian Boxing Federation says it has opened an investigation.
Secretary general Umar Kremlev suggested there was "some kind of violation", adding in a statement: "We lost Maxim Dadashev. He was our young prospect.
"We will fully support his family, including financially. We will complete the investigation into the circumstances surrounding this fight, we need to know the truth about what happened.
"This happens in any sport. I think some human factors intervened, there was some kind of violation."
USA-based Dadashev had won all of his previous 13 fights but had to absorb a barrage of punches from Puerto Rican Matias during the course of the fight in Maryland.
McGirt had said afterwards he "could not convince" his fighter to stop, but opted to throw in the towel when he saw him "getting hit with more and more clean shots as the fight went on".
The Russian Boxing Federation said that after the fight, Dadashev's condition worsened and doctors diagnosed a cerebral edema and a "difficult" surgery took place, but his heart stopped on Tuesday.
Northern Ireland's former world champion Carl Frampton was among those to pay tribute, saying on Twitter: "Saddened to hear about the passing of Maxim Dadashev. Deepest condolences to his friends and family. RIP."
British boxing promoter Eddie Hearn added: "So terribly sad to hear the news of the passing of Maxim Dadashev. Rest in peace."
Maxim Dadashev dies after boxing injuries sustained against Subriel Matias
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Dadashev had won all of his previous 13 fights
Russian boxer Maxim Dadashev has died at the age of 28 following injuries suffered in his IBF light-welterweight fight against Subriel Matias.
Dadashev was reportedly unable to walk to the dressing room after his bout was stopped by trainer Buddy McGirt at the end of the 11th round on Friday.
He was hospitalised with bleeding on the brain and underwent emergency surgery but failed to recover.
The Russian Boxing Federation says it has opened an investigation.
Secretary general Umar Kremlev suggested there was "some kind of violation", adding in a statement: "We lost Maxim Dadashev. He was our young prospect.
"We will fully support his family, including financially. We will complete the investigation into the circumstances surrounding this fight, we need to know the truth about what happened.
"This happens in any sport. I think some human factors intervened, there was some kind of violation."
USA-based Dadashev had won all of his previous 13 fights but had to absorb a barrage of punches from Puerto Rican Matias during the course of the fight in Maryland.
McGirt had said afterwards he "could not convince" his fighter to stop, but opted to throw in the towel when he saw him "getting hit with more and more clean shots as the fight went on".
The Russian Boxing Federation said that after the fight, Dadashev's condition worsened and doctors diagnosed a cerebral edema and a "difficult" surgery took place, but his heart stopped on Tuesday.
Northern Ireland's former world champion Carl Frampton was among those to pay tribute, saying on Twitter: "Saddened to hear about the passing of Maxim Dadashev. Deepest condolences to his friends and family. RIP."
British boxing promoter Eddie Hearn added: "So terribly sad to hear the news of the passing of Maxim Dadashev. Rest in peace."
Terrible news about this fella, but don't agree with the above. There's probably as much damage done to footballers every year as there is boxers due to heading the ball, and we wouldn't want them in head gear. Don't forget how many boxing matches there are a year, pro or not, and how many deaths there are.
Footballers don't head the ball with anything like the force of a left hook off a 12oz glove. It's more a build up of frequent small hits that can potentially cause long term brain damage. That's something you can tackle by frequent monitoring, brain scans, memory tests, stuff like that, which would then lead you to take action at your leisure when the results point to a problem. It's very different to getting hit so hard in the head that you die there and then, without the choice or opportunity to do anything about it.
To stop people dying you either use head gear or use smaller gloves. Or change the rules to have shorter rounds, or the ref calling it off after the first knockdown. The worst culprit is definitely the gloves. The opponent has their hands wrapped up like sledge hammers, and the gloves to protect their knuckles, it gives them a free licence to put the weight of the earth into each punch, which is insane and unnecessary to knock someone out. Reduce the glove sizes, and you'll have to time the punches and catch them with more accuracy on the chin, with short sharp shots. No more of these brutal 12 round beatings to their heads.
