• You may have to login or register before you can post and view our exclusive members only forums.
    To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Back the Manager NOW!

Forums Unread posts
Status
Not open for further replies.
mark1975 said:
I can't speak for Jono, because he seems a good sort, but you definitely get that feeling with Modo, Whirly and KopRed, to name a few. I bet they all love Rafa too. "People are blinkered by last season". You mean like that CL win that carried Rafa for 6yrs? Not just three months of the next season.
Click to expand...

I wouldn't say a CL win carried him for 6 years. There was another CL final appearance and a semi-final appearance. We were not fantastic in the league but we were solid and comfortably top 4 apart from his first and last seasons and came very close to winning the league 2009. That being said the regression in his last season was huge and he deserved to get the chop when he did. I like Rafa and think overall he did a decent job at Liverpool, but I wouldn't be clamouring to get him back either.
 
So, 5 out if 6 seasons we were top 4 and one year we weren't, due to most likely off field shite, and people judge him on his worst year. It's weird.

No risk of an agenda here at all.
 
localny said:
So, 5 out if 6 seasons we were top 4 and one year we weren't, due to most likely off field shite, and people judge him on his worst year. It's weird.

No risk of an agenda here at all.
Click to expand...
4 out of 6 seasons we where top 4 under Rafa
 
Modo said:
We won the CL during one of those seasons
Click to expand...

This is getting so tiring.
When he left us, would we compete in the CL the next year? How's his CL work been the last two years for one of the top spending teams in Italy? How did he do at Inter? You get the point ... He had a wonderful run with us but it seems whatever magic he created was already fizzling out with us before he left ... He'll always be part of our history but he's not coming back ... Move on.
 
LeTallecWiz said:
This is getting so tiring.
When he left us, would we compete in the CL the next year? How's his CL work been the last two years for one of the top spending teams in Italy? How did he do at Inter? You get the point ... He had a wonderful run with us but it seems whatever magic he created was already fizzling out with us before he left ... He'll always be part of our history but he's not coming back ... Move on.
Click to expand...
You wanted to give Kenny another year right?
Well, give Rafa another shot at it.
 
People wanted to give Kenny another year because he fucked up but he arguably warranted the chance to put it right, he'd had 18 months in the job.

Rodgers has had a couple of months of poor form after finishing second and already people want shot of him.

So yeah, let's bring back a manager who came close to winning the title once while having six cracks at it. Alienating players, squandering money and moaning about it in the process. I don't get the logic, let's give it to a manager who's had six chances to win it, in a league that didn't contain a competitive Man City, while dismissing a manager who finished 2nd a mere 6 months ago, because things haven't gone as well as we hoped.

It's impatient, agenda driven crap.
 
Another spin would be, let's give the manager who got us to two European cup finals, one fa cup final, one league cup final, one Europa league semi final and arguably made us the team to beat in Europe for a few years a chance at it.
 
Modo said:
Another spin would be, let's give the manager who got us to two European cup finals, one fa cup final, one league cup final, one Europa league semi final and arguably made us the team to beat in Europe for a few years a chance at it.
Click to expand...

You keep on neglecting to mention how he left the team ... how he handled Inter ... how he's advanced one of the highest spending teams in Italy in Serie A and the Champions League ... Let it go dude ...
 
LeTallecWiz said:
You keep on neglecting to mention how he left the team ... how he handled Inter ... how he's advanced one of the highest spending teams in Italy in Serie A and the Champions League ... Let it go dude ...
Click to expand...

Well, aren't you neglecting the positives?
 
Christ lads, It's contentious enough whether Rodgers needs to go or not. Why are we complicating things by throwing a hypothetical Rafa return into the mix?
 
Whirly said:
As a whole it was a success, but if you take away the contribution talent had, the systems we played had very little impact on our success.

Iirc just about all of our matches against the mid and lower table sides in the second half last year were one goal affairs or two goal track meets. We got saved by a late penalty twice I think, alongwith other late goals as well.

Analyzing the game individually paints a different picture where we often should've dropped points but didn't.
Click to expand...


That first line is rubbish, Whirly. They system had everything to do with it. The system was designed to amplify, exploit the vision of Gerrard and Coutinho and Suarez along with the pace of Sturridge and Sterling. Whether Rodgers knows how to set up a defensive system or not doesn't impact on last season - that system was nearly ideal for the team we had on the pitch.


As for the last part and the comment on us beating mid table teams by a goal and needing late penalties to do it twice - WHAT!!! Too many people have forgotten what we were like in our pomp. People remember the 9 against Palace or the Holy Grail which was the 5-0 against Forest. They seem to conveniently forget that a great number of our victories were a grinding, tough as nails, hard fought 1-0 victory. They seem to forget that we won numerous - and I mean a huge number - of matches in the last 3 or 4 minutes. There were penalties in there too.

You can look more recently as well. I lost count of how many times the Mancs just scraped home against mid-table opposition with a stoppage time goal. Where the hell do you think the term "fergie time" came from? It was their irritating as hell habit of getting undeserved points against mid table mediocrity.

None of this justifies the fact that Rodgers has tragically miscalculated on what qualities he needed to replace during the summer. But the system last season exploited our strengths and the fact we scraped many a 1 goal victory is reminiscent of our glory years - not a stick to beat Rodgers over the head with. The other clubs weren't in the competition to make us look good in the late 70's and 80's and nothing had changed to last year on that front either.
 
Mamma Mia said:
No, because Mark.

Oncy was spot on with his post in this thread, and here's another example. Have a look through the thread again and tell me why we ended up discussing Rafa.
Click to expand...

Because Modo brought it up in every thread at every opportunity. And if you're talking about my response above, Modo actually deleted his post I was referring to. So don't be a fucking smart arse.
 
Mamma Mia said:
No, because Mark.

Oncy was spot on with his post in this thread, and here's another example. Have a look through the thread again and tell me why we ended up discussing Rafa.
Click to expand...

Which post from Oncy was spot on?
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

Squiggles
    • Like
  • Locked
Other PL Games 24-25/08/2024
2 3 4 5 6
Replies
156
Views
3K
CueEye
C
localny
    • Like
    • Love
  • Locked
Pinch me 2024
Replies
15
Views
686
localny
localny
tomasjj
  • Locked
Klopp’s ‘LFC reloaded’ need return of sharp pressing of opposition and of manager
Replies
1
Views
443
LeTallecWiz
LeTallecWiz
localny
    • Like
  • Locked
Pepe Reina on the verge of Retiring at 41
Replies
15
Views
1K
Judge Jules
Judge Jules
Modo
    • Like
  • Locked
The search for a new DM
42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50
Replies
1K
Views
81K
bluebell
bluebell
Back
Top Bottom