Aquilani, and Maxi..
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Aquilani was awful against Bolton.
Maxi was reasonable against Bolton then anonymous against Everton (albeit slightly better in the second half).
Both need to do more in my opinion.
Maxi was reasonable against Bolton then anonymous against Everton (albeit slightly better in the second half).
Both need to do more in my opinion.
Aquilani looks like he might be good when we're playing well. When we're performing badly he doesn't seem to be able to turn it around for us at the moment though.
Maxi will be a useful squad player probably.
Maxi will be a useful squad player probably.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=38848.msg1051476#msg1051476 date=1265664074]
Aquilani was awful against Bolton.
Maxi was reasonable against Bolton then anonymous against Everton (albeit slightly better in the second half).
Both need to do more in my opinion.
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It's early days though, in terms of the number of appearances, and like we've seen with Keane and a few others, Rafa seems severely lacking in the ability/confidence to incorporate Aquilani into the side.
Add the fact that Rafa's been trying to keep us solid to get us back to winning ways, it's been tough on Aquilani as he's had to be patient on the sidelines, without the luxiry of being eased into a winning team, which just sees the expectation and demand for him to do something escalate. All of which is largely unfair on the lad. He has shown glimpses of quality though, but his lack of physical presence is a big worry.
Regards Maxi, I don't really know what to think yet but again he's only had a couple of appearances, one of which he's played out of position in one of the toughest games of the season, much of which was played with 10 men.
Aquilani was awful against Bolton.
Maxi was reasonable against Bolton then anonymous against Everton (albeit slightly better in the second half).
Both need to do more in my opinion.
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It's early days though, in terms of the number of appearances, and like we've seen with Keane and a few others, Rafa seems severely lacking in the ability/confidence to incorporate Aquilani into the side.
Add the fact that Rafa's been trying to keep us solid to get us back to winning ways, it's been tough on Aquilani as he's had to be patient on the sidelines, without the luxiry of being eased into a winning team, which just sees the expectation and demand for him to do something escalate. All of which is largely unfair on the lad. He has shown glimpses of quality though, but his lack of physical presence is a big worry.
Regards Maxi, I don't really know what to think yet but again he's only had a couple of appearances, one of which he's played out of position in one of the toughest games of the season, much of which was played with 10 men.
So far, both have been a fucking disaster
End of (sad, short) story
End of (sad, short) story
Maxi has only been here 2 minutes. How can he be classed a disaster?
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38848.msg1051487#msg1051487 date=1265664678]
So far, both have been a fucking disaster
End of (sad, short) story
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The majority of the 'disaster' surrounding Aquilani is regarding how long he's been injured, and now how reluctant Rafa is to use him, you can't say he's a disaster based on a couple of appearances and fuck all faith from the manager, and Maxi signed about 2 weeks ago. Christ.
So far, both have been a fucking disaster
End of (sad, short) story
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The majority of the 'disaster' surrounding Aquilani is regarding how long he's been injured, and now how reluctant Rafa is to use him, you can't say he's a disaster based on a couple of appearances and fuck all faith from the manager, and Maxi signed about 2 weeks ago. Christ.
Well, assuming this lad hasn't seen any of his games so far, I would have to inform him that Maxi has been shit so far
Which is true
When he stops being shit, I will endeavour to inform him of any change
Which is true
When he stops being shit, I will endeavour to inform him of any change
And Purple Aqui has had about 45 minutes of good football in 2\3 of a season
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=38848.msg1051489#msg1051489 date=1265664772]
Maxi has only been here 2 minutes. How can he be classed a disaster?
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Because his coarse-grained model for rating players means he can pat himself on the back for being right more often?
Maxi has looked too slow to really fix many problems, but he has looked fairly cool, capable of settling play and picking a pass. That's useful to us, but it doesn't change things massively. If he gains more comfort, and adds goalscoring with the frequency he has elsewhere, he'll prove most useful.
Aquilani has been poor, but the backdrop for his return to fitness and first few games are about as awful as could be.
Maxi has only been here 2 minutes. How can he be classed a disaster?
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Because his coarse-grained model for rating players means he can pat himself on the back for being right more often?
Maxi has looked too slow to really fix many problems, but he has looked fairly cool, capable of settling play and picking a pass. That's useful to us, but it doesn't change things massively. If he gains more comfort, and adds goalscoring with the frequency he has elsewhere, he'll prove most useful.
Aquilani has been poor, but the backdrop for his return to fitness and first few games are about as awful as could be.
Fucking Hell, usual shite from Brendan.
Aqua has shown some great touches, a willingness to pass the ball and get things moving going forwards. He hasn't got used to the fast pace of the Premiership and the physical nature of it yet, but he has come from Italy where the game is a lot slower and he has been out since forever so give the lad a chance.
Maxi has again shown some nice touches and set up N'Gog with a lovely through ball v Spurs that resulted in the pen.
Both has started steadily in their LFC careers, they haven't exactly set the world on fire but have shown some class and if they settle will both contribute to the team.
Aqua has shown some great touches, a willingness to pass the ball and get things moving going forwards. He hasn't got used to the fast pace of the Premiership and the physical nature of it yet, but he has come from Italy where the game is a lot slower and he has been out since forever so give the lad a chance.
Maxi has again shown some nice touches and set up N'Gog with a lovely through ball v Spurs that resulted in the pen.
Both has started steadily in their LFC careers, they haven't exactly set the world on fire but have shown some class and if they settle will both contribute to the team.
Aquilani's passing has been shocking at times though when he's been under no pressure at all.
'Coarse-grained model'
Oh fucking dear me, that's equal parts painful and try-hard hopeless
He asked for opinion on what 'we' have seen so far. I told him. He didn't ask for tortured, clumsy fucking bollocks
Oh fucking dear me, that's equal parts painful and try-hard hopeless
He asked for opinion on what 'we' have seen so far. I told him. He didn't ask for tortured, clumsy fucking bollocks
Interesting
Loads of posters who have never been right about anything ever
Vs
Me
Hmm
Loads of posters who have never been right about anything ever
Vs
Me
Hmm
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=38848.msg1051500#msg1051500 date=1265665589]
Aquilani's passing has been shocking at times though when he's been under no pressure at all.
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Definitely. He was nervous and trying to do far too much against Bolton, trying to spread sweeping passes all around and failing.
His eyes require collimating.
Aquilani's passing has been shocking at times though when he's been under no pressure at all.
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Definitely. He was nervous and trying to do far too much against Bolton, trying to spread sweeping passes all around and failing.
His eyes require collimating.
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38848.msg1051502#msg1051502 date=1265665918]
Interesting
Loads of posters who have never been right about anything ever
Vs
Me
Hmm
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Hmmmmmm
Interesting
Loads of posters who have never been right about anything ever
Vs
Me
Hmm
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Hmmmmmm
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38848.msg1051501#msg1051501 date=1265665675]
'Coarse-grained model'
Oh fucking dear me, that's equal parts painful and try-hard hopeless
He asked for opinion on what 'we' have seen so far. I told him. He didn't ask for tortured, clumsy fucking bollocks
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One light means shit, two lights means good.
'Coarse-grained model'
Oh fucking dear me, that's equal parts painful and try-hard hopeless
He asked for opinion on what 'we' have seen so far. I told him. He didn't ask for tortured, clumsy fucking bollocks
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One light means shit, two lights means good.
Haha
Given Maxi's lack of gametime prior to us, and the difficult fixtures he's been thrown into since joining us four weeks ago, I think he's done well.
He works hard, retains possession all the time, can play in a variety of positions, and has settled in nicely.
Of course, we could have expected him to join us and set the world alight within 4 weeks. But then not all of us are utterly fucking clueless.
He works hard, retains possession all the time, can play in a variety of positions, and has settled in nicely.
Of course, we could have expected him to join us and set the world alight within 4 weeks. But then not all of us are utterly fucking clueless.
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=38848.msg1051527#msg1051527 date=1265667644]
The worrying thing about Aquilani is that he wasnt trusted to play in the derby. Surely if you spend £20m on him these are the games that he was bought to play in and make a difference.
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I honestly think I'm going to throw myself off a building.
Fucking.Hell.
The worrying thing about Aquilani is that he wasnt trusted to play in the derby. Surely if you spend £20m on him these are the games that he was bought to play in and make a difference.
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I honestly think I'm going to throw myself off a building.
Fucking.Hell.
[quote author=themn link=topic=38848.msg1051532#msg1051532 date=1265668137]
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=38848.msg1051527#msg1051527 date=1265667644]
The worrying thing about Aquilani is that he wasnt trusted to play in the derby. Surely if you spend £20m on him these are the games that he was bought to play in and make a difference.
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I honestly think I'm going to throw myself off a building.
Fucking.Hell.
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Do hurry up.
[quote author=Niall K link=topic=38848.msg1051527#msg1051527 date=1265667644]
The worrying thing about Aquilani is that he wasnt trusted to play in the derby. Surely if you spend £20m on him these are the games that he was bought to play in and make a difference.
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I honestly think I'm going to throw myself off a building.
Fucking.Hell.
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Do hurry up.
He was never going to start the derby
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=38848.msg1051535#msg1051535 date=1265668372]
He was never going to start the derby
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Is the right answer.
I am getting worried about Aquilani, but he was never gonna get slung in against the Bitters. Maybe he may play against a less combative Arsenal?
He was never going to start the derby
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Is the right answer.
I am getting worried about Aquilani, but he was never gonna get slung in against the Bitters. Maybe he may play against a less combative Arsenal?
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=38848.msg1051535#msg1051535 date=1265668372]
He was never going to start the derby
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I think we all knew that was going to be the case.
And dont get me wrong it was a very good performance on Saturday and a great result. But I do find it strange that you spend that kind of money and dont play him in a derby.
He was never going to start the derby
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I think we all knew that was going to be the case.
And dont get me wrong it was a very good performance on Saturday and a great result. But I do find it strange that you spend that kind of money and dont play him in a derby.
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