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rurikbird

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Liverpool are monitoring Basel's young defender Manuel Akanji, though may face competition from Borussia Dortmund.
Akanji is 22-year-old, 6ft 1in centre-half who is highly-rated in his native Switzerland and under contract with the country’s most successful club until 2021.
Dortmund are understood to be keen on signing Akanji in the forthcoming January transfer window, while Liverpool are more open to the idea of a summer move.
Akanji began his senior career at Winterthur, a club based near Zurich, and after impressing in Switzerland’s second division during the 2014-15 season, he secured a move to Basel.
The youngster forced his way into Urs Fischer’s first team a few months later, making 12 appearances in total before his progress was curtailed in March 2016 by a cruciate knee ligament injury.
The setback kept Akanji on the sidelines for the remainder of the year, meaning he missed Basel’s 2016-17 Champions League group stage encounters with Arsenal and Paris Saint-Germain.
Eventually, in February, he returned and was a regular in the heart of Fischer’s defence as Basel secured their eighth consecutive Swiss league title.
Raphael Wicky replaced Fischer as Basel’s manager during the summer but Akanji has retained his status as a first-team regular, appearing in all 28 matches so far this season, starting all but one.
In June, he made his international debut for Switzerland against the Faroe Islands and most recently played in both legs of his country’s World Cup play-off against Northern Ireland.
What’s more, Akanji was named the Rookie of the Year at the Swiss Football Awards in August, following in the footsteps of his highly-rated team-mate Breel Embolo.
When asked about his ambitions for the future after winning the gong, Akanji told award sponsors Credit Suisse: “I want to stay healthy, go with Switzerland to the World Cup, and someday play for Manchester United.”
Who else is interested and will he be allowed to leave?

Akanji was watched by Borussia Dortmund sporting director Michael Zorc during Basel’s 1-0 Champions League victory over Manchester United last month.
RB Leipzig, another Bundesliga club who have recent experience of transfer tussles with Liverpool, have also been linked with the young defender.
Basel are thought to want to keep Akanji on their books until at least the end of the season.
Marcel Streller, Basel’s sporting director, has already suggested publicly that Akanji would be allowed to leave for the right price.
“We'll receive [offers], I am sure of that,” he told Blick earlier this month. “I see which scouts attend our Champions League matches. If we'll receive a concrete offer, we must sit down with him and his agent to see what's best for Manu.”

 
Basel have a tendency to produce really talented players.
This is a project, and hence, not a worthwhile investment unless we can loan him out to a premier league team ...
 
Basel have a tendency to produce really talented players.
This is a project, and hence, not a worthwhile investment unless we can loan him out to a premier league team ...
We already have a project in Gomez. We need experienced and proven CB's like Van Dijk or Koulibaly. Or both but i think i'd faint from the lack of blood caused by the boner i would get.
 
Akanji will have turned 23 next summer – not exactly a "project." Hummels and Subotic were around 21-22 when they became Klopp's first-choice CB pairing. He will have a minimum of 8 games in CL this season under his belt (already 6 plus the double-header vs City) and will go to the World Cup as the first-choice CB for Switzerland. It would be smart to tie up this deal in January as his price is sure to rise after the summer.
 
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Some decent interceptions there but some of those passes were woeful.
Hospital balls all over the place
 
Dodgy first touch but that can be worked on. Not afraid to attack the ball when it comes into the danger zone. Well, van Dijk is overrated and massively overpriced anyway.
 
Some decent interceptions there but some of those passes were woeful.
Hospital balls all over the place
Nah. Not at all. One long pass, a la Lovren and one he left short but otherwise nothing woeful at all.

Looks very decent (from one match vs. United).
 
Chelsea buying Van Dyik apparently. For me it's no big deal

Man.City being linked in the UK media today.

For me it's a very big deal. His current form is clearly down to the fact that he's had to stick around at a club he's wanted to leave for a good while now. I gauge his real quality by the fact that Klopp wanted him as badly as he did. Besides, even if we look elsewhere, as others have said we could do with more than one good CB signing so, if van Dijk ends up elsewhere, we'll have to scout out yet another new signing.
 
Man.City being linked in the UK media today.

For me it's a very big deal. His current form is clearly down to the fact that he's had to stick around at a club he's wanted to leave for a good while now. I gauge his real quality by the fact that Klopp wanted him as badly as he did. Besides, even if we look elsewhere, as others have said we could do with more than one good CB signing so, if van Dijk ends up elsewhere, we'll have to scout out yet another new signing.
If we don't get Van dijk we are really going to look stupid. We didn't buy anyone else because klopp wanted van dijk or no one. So we wait and then he fucks off t ocity or chelsea. Now what do we do?
 
We looked stupid in the summer, certainly, but I don't think that effect will be repeated if van Dijk does now go elsewhere. IMO the worst of that has passed. Incidentally I don't have as much of a problem as some do with Klopp's insistence on van Dijk back then - how many times have we gone for "near enough is good enough" and found out that they really weren't? The deal only went South because of one bonehead flapping his gums too soon anyway - not Klopp's fault.

To answer your question, though, I hope we're doing due diligence on other CBs (as well as on the current situation regarding van Dijk). Not only do we have to strengthen at the back and make sure last summer's fiasco is not repeated, we also need more than just the one addition anyway, IMHO of course.
 
Man.City being linked in the UK media today.

For me it's a very big deal. His current form is clearly down to the fact that he's had to stick around at a club he's wanted to leave for a good while now. I gauge his real quality by the fact that Klopp wanted him as badly as he did. Besides, even if we look elsewhere, as others have said we could do with more than one good CB signing so, if van Dijk ends up elsewhere, we'll have to scout out yet another new signing.

If M City & Chelsea are in the hunt for him, I think we have already lost out. If true he is better than I think if so many top clubs want him. Anyways let's wait and see what will happen.
 
We looked stupid in the summer, certainly, but I don't think that effect will be repeated if van Dijk does now go elsewhere. IMO the worst of that has passed. Incidentally I don't have as much of a problem as some do with Klopp's insistence on van Dijk back then - how many times have we gone for "near enough is good enough" and found out that they really weren't? The deal only went South because of one bonehead flapping his gums too soon anyway - not Klopp's fault.

To answer your question, though, I hope we're doing due diligence on other CBs (as well as on the current situation regarding van Dijk). Not only do we have to strengthen at the back and make sure last summer's fiasco is not repeated, we also need more than just the one addition anyway, IMHO of course.
My biggest problem with it in the summer was the fact it was seen as ONLY van dijk could improve our backline which was just utter nonsense. There's so many good CB's out there and we just put all our eggs in one basket and got fuck all.
 
If M City & Chelsea are in the hunt for him, I think we have already lost out. If true he is better than I think if so many top clubs want him. Anyways let's wait and see what will happen.
City and chelsea both wanted him in the summer. City were put off by the asking price and chelsea were told he would prefer us over them.
 
City and chelsea both wanted him in the summer. City were put off by the asking price and chelsea were told he would prefer us over them.

If City with the bottomless pocket said that why are we pursuing him still?
 
All the van Dijk to City stories look so alike that they may just as well have been written by Man City's press department.

Next.
 
My biggest problem with it in the summer was the fact it was seen as ONLY van dijk could improve our backline which was just utter nonsense. There's so many good CB's out there and we just put all our eggs in one basket and got fuck all.

I don't reckon it's as simple as that. If there were others who would have improved us I doubt we were unaware of them. My bet is that the question had more to do with value for money and that Klopp in particular believed none of those other possibilities would be worth the fees we'd have been charged. I trust his judgment on that more than the judgment of any 6CM poster, and - again - would remind you of all the signings we've made over the years who "could improve" us but haven't.
 
I don't reckon it's as simple as that. If there were others who would have improved us I doubt we were unaware of them. My bet is that the question had more to do with value for money and that Klopp in particular believed none of those other possibilities would be worth the fees we'd have been charged. I trust his judgment on that more than the judgment of any 6CM poster, and - again - would remind you of all the signings we've made over the years who "could improve" us but haven't.
I trust Klopp when it comes to signing players for the final 3rd. But his record on signing defensive players had been below average. Now apparently we were willing to spend 60-70m on van dijk. There's no way you're telling me that there were NO other defenders we couldn't have gotten who would be good enough with that money.
 
Even if I agreed about his record with signing defenders (which I don't - I rate Robertson, Klavan's shaping up now and Matip's had good games as well as poor ones), playing the percentages tells me I'd still be better off relying on his view in preference to anyone's here, mine included.

As far as your final sentence is concerned: I have no idea, but then I'm not the one trying to claim these players are out there without actually naming one who would definitely have been (a) available and (b) worth what we'd have been charged..
 
I trust Klopp when it comes to signing players for the final 3rd. But his record on signing defensive players had been below average. Now apparently we were willing to spend 60-70m on van dijk. There's no way you're telling me that there were NO other defenders we couldn't have gotten who would be good enough with that money.
I really don't think it's as easy as that. Of course there are others but identifying them and persuading them to come to LFC may not be as easy as it sounds.

We haven't signed one player who can be described as absolute top quality and at the height of their game (maybe Sanchez would have been in that bracket had we signed him). Salah and Mane have been revelations but few saw them as 'galacticos' (to coin a phrase, however inapt) before they arrived.

However as far as that goes re. CBs then take a look at the 'recent' transfer activity of City, United, Arsenal and Chelsea with regard to CBs ...... Rudiger, Luiz, Otamendi, Mangala, Lindelof, D.Sanchez are their most recent CB signings ..... and not one can be called top notch (and maybe not even better than we have) whist most can't even establish a regular starting slot. Maybe Christensen at Chelsea is the nearest to a successful CB signing .. but he was theirs anyway and just recalled from loan.

Hence the interest in VVD, he should be superior to any of that lot and is experienced in the PL and against aggressive , physical, forwards (SPL). As well as for a team that spends most of the game on the attack (Celtic) playing with a high line.

There will be other top quality options but few could be considered objective targets and of other not so highly rated or experienced maybe we'd end up in the same situation as those listed above - there are no guarantees.
 
Last game of the group stage, Basel won 2:0 away at Benfica to ensure their qualification to 1/8 of the Champions League. Akanji played as the central of the 3 CBs. I like that his instinct is always to step up and challenge the striker, closing down the space before they can turn with the ball – in this game it was very effective. Won everything in the air and got an assist from a set-piece. Gave away a couple of free-kicks for challenges that probably would not have been given in the Premier League.

 
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