[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41972.msg1179025#msg1179025 date=1285066548]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41972.msg1178950#msg1178950 date=1285060853]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41972.msg1178938#msg1178938 date=1285060365]
The idea of Agger, particularly KHL's idea is great. The reality is a bit different, poor in the air, loses way too many challenges. He doesn't do the basics of the job well and his passing and goal threat are massively overrated, and only of secondary importance anyway.
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I would have taken his passing from CB at the weekend though, even though it is exaggerated or overrated it (his passing) is better than carra's and skrtel's and we really could have done without continually giving manu the ball when we were under pressure just aimlessly hoofing which saw manu build up momentum.
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when i'm not posting from my phone I'm going to go guardian chalkboard on your ass. I'd be willing to bet the hoofing, which last year was shown to be a lot less frequent from our centre backs than most thought, is still happening when agger is in the team.
I'm also willing to bet that hoofing has more to do with a lack of movement than it does supposed passing skills. I'll further be willing to bet that Agger gives away the ball more than the others.
I'm a cocky shit on reflection
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the hoofing was reduced when alonso was in the team as alonso used to collect the ball off the defenders toes and personally distribute it to the forwards.
since xabi's departure the defenders have had to take more responsibility to distribute the ball themselves, if they are not 100% confident in their ability to take the ball forwards a few yards and pick someone out even when pressured by the oppsition's forwards then more likely than not they will want to get rid of it early, if there is no one near them unmarked then they will send it long rather than risk someone nicking the ball of them. it's safety first, which is fair enough because if we are under the cosh the ball will come straight back.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41972.msg1178950#msg1178950 date=1285060853]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=41972.msg1178938#msg1178938 date=1285060365]
The idea of Agger, particularly KHL's idea is great. The reality is a bit different, poor in the air, loses way too many challenges. He doesn't do the basics of the job well and his passing and goal threat are massively overrated, and only of secondary importance anyway.
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I would have taken his passing from CB at the weekend though, even though it is exaggerated or overrated it (his passing) is better than carra's and skrtel's and we really could have done without continually giving manu the ball when we were under pressure just aimlessly hoofing which saw manu build up momentum.
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when i'm not posting from my phone I'm going to go guardian chalkboard on your ass. I'd be willing to bet the hoofing, which last year was shown to be a lot less frequent from our centre backs than most thought, is still happening when agger is in the team.
I'm also willing to bet that hoofing has more to do with a lack of movement than it does supposed passing skills. I'll further be willing to bet that Agger gives away the ball more than the others.
I'm a cocky shit on reflection
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the hoofing was reduced when alonso was in the team as alonso used to collect the ball off the defenders toes and personally distribute it to the forwards.
since xabi's departure the defenders have had to take more responsibility to distribute the ball themselves, if they are not 100% confident in their ability to take the ball forwards a few yards and pick someone out even when pressured by the oppsition's forwards then more likely than not they will want to get rid of it early, if there is no one near them unmarked then they will send it long rather than risk someone nicking the ball of them. it's safety first, which is fair enough because if we are under the cosh the ball will come straight back.
