So do I, but khl is slowly but surely putting me off him.
Agger's warning
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you have to wonder why more footballers don't sue babelfish...
Agger proves he can run backwards quickly.
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you have to wonder why more footballers don't sue babelfish...
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Nothing was lost in translation Neil. KHL heard Agger on TV himself.
you have to wonder why more footballers don't sue babelfish...
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Nothing was lost in translation Neil. KHL heard Agger on TV himself.
Ha...so there was no need to get angry and worked up about this?!?!!!
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41972.msg1179189#msg1179189 date=1285083186]
you have to wonder why more footballers don't sue babelfish...
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Nothing was lost in translation Neil. KHL heard Agger on TV himself.
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I was being sarcastic. badly, admittedly 🙂
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41972.msg1179189#msg1179189 date=1285083186]
you have to wonder why more footballers don't sue babelfish...
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Nothing was lost in translation Neil. KHL heard Agger on TV himself.
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I was being sarcastic. badly, admittedly 🙂
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=41972.msg1179211#msg1179211 date=1285084776]
Julian, the only person getting worked up was KHL. oh, and you a bit too.
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Agger should play. That's the only thing I'm getting worked up about although there are a few wums on here trying their utmost to turn most arguments into a mud-fight.
Julian, the only person getting worked up was KHL. oh, and you a bit too.
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Agger should play. That's the only thing I'm getting worked up about although there are a few wums on here trying their utmost to turn most arguments into a mud-fight.
[quote author=Richey link=topic=41972.msg1179211#msg1179211 date=1285084776]
Julian, the only person getting worked up was KHL. oh, and you a bit too.
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You may have a point.
I was just annoyed at the extremes people would go to, to counter KHL's bias. I didn't even think the original comment made to the press was debate worthy and said as much.
Julian, the only person getting worked up was KHL. oh, and you a bit too.
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You may have a point.
I was just annoyed at the extremes people would go to, to counter KHL's bias. I didn't even think the original comment made to the press was debate worthy and said as much.
At the moment i don't see the desperate need for him to come into the squad. Our main issue is aerial threats and i believe skrtel to be a better header than agger, and skrtel is quite shocking at aerial threats.
I do hope the quotes are out of context, as i lie agger being in the squad, but we'll have to see
I do hope the quotes are out of context, as i lie agger being in the squad, but we'll have to see
What are we trying to prove here? It all looks complex. I only see short passes made on those shots. I find it hard to believe that we did not make a single long pass.
Is it possible to get the Attempted passes and pass completions stats from 2008 and 2009? That should give a decent picture. I could not get that, i did try....
Is it possible to get the Attempted passes and pass completions stats from 2008 and 2009? That should give a decent picture. I could not get that, i did try....
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41972.msg1178803#msg1178803 date=1285049020]
I'm sure zlatan is glad glock agrees with him.
And zlatan; Carragher is a SCOUSER.
He's not 'a scouse'; because that would make him a dialect or a plate of food.
The point Brendan is making is that whilst Carragher's days may be numbered (eventually), no one seems to delight in it as much as you (and a few idiots on here unfortunately) and you scorn those things which make Carragher important to this club, and to its fans.
You seem to suggest that you don't care about the songs and language but only care about the 'important things' like our history and the players.
Well, listen up : all those things are equally as important, they all make up the core about what this club is all about.
Liverpool FC is a global club, but the heart of Liverpool FC is Liverpool itself.
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Because its good prooving idiots like you and brendan wrong, while showing you have no footballing sense at all.
You dont keep someone as your first choice just based on sentimental value. That wont win you trophies if the player in question has been in decline for a couple years. Make way for Skrtel/Agger partnership.
I'm sure zlatan is glad glock agrees with him.
And zlatan; Carragher is a SCOUSER.
He's not 'a scouse'; because that would make him a dialect or a plate of food.
The point Brendan is making is that whilst Carragher's days may be numbered (eventually), no one seems to delight in it as much as you (and a few idiots on here unfortunately) and you scorn those things which make Carragher important to this club, and to its fans.
You seem to suggest that you don't care about the songs and language but only care about the 'important things' like our history and the players.
Well, listen up : all those things are equally as important, they all make up the core about what this club is all about.
Liverpool FC is a global club, but the heart of Liverpool FC is Liverpool itself.
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Because its good prooving idiots like you and brendan wrong, while showing you have no footballing sense at all.
You dont keep someone as your first choice just based on sentimental value. That wont win you trophies if the player in question has been in decline for a couple years. Make way for Skrtel/Agger partnership.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41972.msg1178964#msg1178964 date=1285061326]
So Glock, Zlatan, Ragehard and meself are the only ones who reckon Agger should start when fit on 6CM?
Wow.
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Makes you wonder what most of the other posters watch or if they have any proper footballing sense at all
So Glock, Zlatan, Ragehard and meself are the only ones who reckon Agger should start when fit on 6CM?
Wow.
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Makes you wonder what most of the other posters watch or if they have any proper footballing sense at all
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[quote author=KHL link=topic=41972.msg1178964#msg1178964 date=1285061326]
So Glock, Zlatan, Ragehard and meself are the only ones who reckon Agger should start when fit on 6CM?
Wow.
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Makes you wonder what most of the other posters watch or if they have any proper footballing sense at all
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Haha, yeah I'm sure you wonder that.
Team of Carraghers - Liverpool Songs
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41972.msg1178964#msg1178964 date=1285061326]
So Glock, Zlatan, Ragehard and meself are the only ones who reckon Agger should start when fit on 6CM?
Wow.
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Makes you wonder what most of the other posters watch or if they have any proper footballing sense at all
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Haha, yeah I'm sure you wonder that.
Team of Carraghers - Liverpool Songs
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[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41972.msg1179720#msg1179720 date=1285139757]
I also think Agger is a better overall defender than Skrtel; but his champions on here seem blind to any valid reasons why he may be benched other than 'no football sense'.
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I beg your pardon?
The only reason that he should play in my optic is that he's the better footballer overall. I fear that he's beeing benched because of Roy's tactical preferences but I'm only guessing of course.
It could also be that without any fit LBs in the squad he feels that he needs to keep him benched as back up for Konchesky. I don't think that's a valid reason either.
For what ever reason though I'd always prefer us to play our best player in their best positions. Fair enough if people doesn't agree with me here that Agger's the better player but that's the only point I'm making. I reckon Agger is to good to be benched no matter how many chalk-boards anyone can dig up proving otherwise.
As someone said elseswhere Lucas was the best passer in the Prem last year based on completion-rate.
I also think Agger is a better overall defender than Skrtel; but his champions on here seem blind to any valid reasons why he may be benched other than 'no football sense'.
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I beg your pardon?
The only reason that he should play in my optic is that he's the better footballer overall. I fear that he's beeing benched because of Roy's tactical preferences but I'm only guessing of course.
It could also be that without any fit LBs in the squad he feels that he needs to keep him benched as back up for Konchesky. I don't think that's a valid reason either.
For what ever reason though I'd always prefer us to play our best player in their best positions. Fair enough if people doesn't agree with me here that Agger's the better player but that's the only point I'm making. I reckon Agger is to good to be benched no matter how many chalk-boards anyone can dig up proving otherwise.
As someone said elseswhere Lucas was the best passer in the Prem last year based on completion-rate.
I dont know if you're even answering anything I've said, but that's not surprising.
As I've said many times, I think Hodgson prefers Skrtel to Agger because he feels that Poulsen wouldnt offer enough protection to the defense if Agger were at CB.
If Poulsen proves himself, I think we'll be seeing more Agger.
As I've said many times, I think Hodgson prefers Skrtel to Agger because he feels that Poulsen wouldnt offer enough protection to the defense if Agger were at CB.
If Poulsen proves himself, I think we'll be seeing more Agger.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41972.msg1179735#msg1179735 date=1285140223]
The only reason that he should play in my optic is that he's the better footballer overall. I fear that he's beeing benched because of Roy's tactical preferences but I'm only guessing of course.
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I don't think anyone would argue against him being the better footballer, though he's not quite the Beckenbauer you make him out to be by any stretch, but your argument is so flawed, myopic and biased. So he should be in there because he's a better footballer?
Smicer was a better 'footballer' than say, Murphy or Riise. Who gave the team more?
The only reason that he should play in my optic is that he's the better footballer overall. I fear that he's beeing benched because of Roy's tactical preferences but I'm only guessing of course.
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I don't think anyone would argue against him being the better footballer, though he's not quite the Beckenbauer you make him out to be by any stretch, but your argument is so flawed, myopic and biased. So he should be in there because he's a better footballer?
Smicer was a better 'footballer' than say, Murphy or Riise. Who gave the team more?
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[quote author=KHL link=topic=41972.msg1179735#msg1179735 date=1285140223]
The only reason that he should play in my optic is that he's the better footballer overall. I fear that he's beeing benched because of Roy's tactical preferences but I'm only guessing of course.
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I don't think anyone would argue against him being the better footballer, though he's not quite the Beckenbauer you make him out to be by any stretch, but your argument is so flawed, myopic and biased. So he should be in there because he's a better footballer?
Smicer was a better 'footballer' than say, Murphy or Riise. Who gave the team more?
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We concede less goals, reduce opponents to taking more % shots and are more likely to keep a clean sheet when Agger is in the team compared to when Skrtel is in the team. It is the stats. If your point was that Skrtel gives more in terms of defense, i think it is baseless.
So if you already agreed that Agger is the better footballer, and if the stats prove that Agger is also the better defender, then it should be a straight forward choice...no?
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41972.msg1179735#msg1179735 date=1285140223]
The only reason that he should play in my optic is that he's the better footballer overall. I fear that he's beeing benched because of Roy's tactical preferences but I'm only guessing of course.
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I don't think anyone would argue against him being the better footballer, though he's not quite the Beckenbauer you make him out to be by any stretch, but your argument is so flawed, myopic and biased. So he should be in there because he's a better footballer?
Smicer was a better 'footballer' than say, Murphy or Riise. Who gave the team more?
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We concede less goals, reduce opponents to taking more % shots and are more likely to keep a clean sheet when Agger is in the team compared to when Skrtel is in the team. It is the stats. If your point was that Skrtel gives more in terms of defense, i think it is baseless.
So if you already agreed that Agger is the better footballer, and if the stats prove that Agger is also the better defender, then it should be a straight forward choice...no?
[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41972.msg1179756#msg1179756 date=1285141619]
At the end of the day, we've got three 'good' defenders who could be better with a commanding presence alongside them. Right now, neither combination from the three look particularly dominating.
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I can go with this...but i think its two good and one above-average (Skrtel)
At the end of the day, we've got three 'good' defenders who could be better with a commanding presence alongside them. Right now, neither combination from the three look particularly dominating.
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I can go with this...but i think its two good and one above-average (Skrtel)
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[quote author=mark1975 link=topic=41972.msg1179753#msg1179753 date=1285141195]
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41972.msg1179735#msg1179735 date=1285140223]
The only reason that he should play in my optic is that he's the better footballer overall. I fear that he's beeing benched because of Roy's tactical preferences but I'm only guessing of course.
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I don't think anyone would argue against him being the better footballer, though he's not quite the Beckenbauer you make him out to be by any stretch, but your argument is so flawed, myopic and biased. So he should be in there because he's a better footballer?
Smicer was a better 'footballer' than say, Murphy or Riise. Who gave the team more?
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Haven't we done this already?
Agger's IMO far better at positioning himself than Skrtel. He's at least as good (poor) in the air and he often reads the game better. Both players can hit a good pass althouh Aggers awareness gives him an edge on the last 1/3 on the pitch.
They are both equally fast perhaps with a little plus to Skrtel and they've got more or less the same stature as well. Agger chips in with a goal now and then as he's got quite a good shot on him. And finally I believe he's better at moving the ball out of defense on the floor.
[quote author=KHL link=topic=41972.msg1179735#msg1179735 date=1285140223]
The only reason that he should play in my optic is that he's the better footballer overall. I fear that he's beeing benched because of Roy's tactical preferences but I'm only guessing of course.
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I don't think anyone would argue against him being the better footballer, though he's not quite the Beckenbauer you make him out to be by any stretch, but your argument is so flawed, myopic and biased. So he should be in there because he's a better footballer?
Smicer was a better 'footballer' than say, Murphy or Riise. Who gave the team more?
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Haven't we done this already?
Agger's IMO far better at positioning himself than Skrtel. He's at least as good (poor) in the air and he often reads the game better. Both players can hit a good pass althouh Aggers awareness gives him an edge on the last 1/3 on the pitch.
They are both equally fast perhaps with a little plus to Skrtel and they've got more or less the same stature as well. Agger chips in with a goal now and then as he's got quite a good shot on him. And finally I believe he's better at moving the ball out of defense on the floor.
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[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41972.msg1179750#msg1179750 date=1285141046]
I dont know if you're even answering anything I've said, but that's not surprising.
As I've said many times, I think Hodgson prefers Skrtel to Agger because he feels that Poulsen wouldnt offer enough protection to the defense if Agger were at CB.
If Poulsen proves himself, I think we'll be seeing more Agger.
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I'm sure Roy's aware that those two has been the defensive back-bone for Denmark for quite some years. Not saying of course that's enough to make it in the Prem but I wouldn't be to nervous about it really.
I dont know if you're even answering anything I've said, but that's not surprising.
As I've said many times, I think Hodgson prefers Skrtel to Agger because he feels that Poulsen wouldnt offer enough protection to the defense if Agger were at CB.
If Poulsen proves himself, I think we'll be seeing more Agger.
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I'm sure Roy's aware that those two has been the defensive back-bone for Denmark for quite some years. Not saying of course that's enough to make it in the Prem but I wouldn't be to nervous about it really.
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