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I'm not interested in being proven right, I'm used to it, so I don't crave it.

All I am saying is that Henry and Cliff Huxtable have done fuck all to command any respect or indeed vague hope that they know what they're doing.

Because so far, they've done precisely fuck all, apart from employ a disgraced, sacked ex -Spurs talent scout, and given him an absurdly elevated position at our club that he has done nothing to merit
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=43339.msg1239938#msg1239938 date=1293733768]
No, but Ayre is 😉
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Whatever! Reason I ask is surely he'd ensure a Rafa reappointment doesnt happen
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43339.msg1239943#msg1239943 date=1293734073] employ a disgraced, sacked ex -Spurs talent scout, and given him an absurdly elevated position at our club that he has done nothing to merit
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True
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=43339.msg1239947#msg1239947 date=1293734192]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=43339.msg1239938#msg1239938 date=1293733768]
No, but Ayre is 😉
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Whatever! Reason I ask is surely he'd ensure a Rafa reappointment doesnt happen
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whoever wants rafa reappointed is clueless as rafa is one of the reasons we have been in decline for the last two years .He sold the wrong players and bought worse ones .
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43339.msg1239927#msg1239927 date=1293732576]
Here comes Whaddapie to set us all straight!

I can't be the only one looking forward to this!

Like one might look forward to, for instance, a fucking car crash
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There have been several similar retorts to mine, but, of course, you pull mine up... Well in.

Happy new year.
 
I dont want them out because they are americans. Americans are good at stoff. If I needed false intelligence to justify a war in Iraqi i.e. I would call the americans straight away. Noone is better than them for such things.

But this is different. they know nada about running a PL club...

So what if werner manned himself up and suggested to sack Roy. What then? What was their next move? They dont have Any because they dont know what we are talking about here.. hence their best move is not to move and cross their fingers for an immidiate improvement in results. Which will not happen... so basically they are learning football by looking the other way as Roy stear us safely to relegation..
 
[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=43339.msg1240056#msg1240056 date=1293750188]
I dont want them out because they are americans. Americans are good at stoff. If I needed false intelligence to justify a war in Iraqi i.e. I would call the americans straight away. Noone is better than them for such things.

But this is different. they know nada about running a PL club...

So what if werner manned himself up and suggested to sack Roy. What then? What was their next move? They dont have Any because they dont know what we are talking about here.. hence their best move is not to move and cross their fingers for an immidiate improvement in results. Which will not happen... so basically they are learning football by looking the other way as Roy stear us safely to relegation..
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If only some 'yanks' would buy Utd, then they'd never win anything ever again.

Oh, hang on...

Stop talking shite FFS.
 
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[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=43339.msg1240056#msg1240056 date=1293750188]
I dont want them out because they are americans. Americans are good at stoff. If I needed false intelligence to justify a war in Iraqi i.e. I would call the americans straight away. Noone is better than them for such things.

But this is different. they know nada about running a PL club...

So what if werner manned himself up and suggested to sack Roy. What then? What was their next move? They dont have Any because they dont know what we are talking about here.. hence their best move is not to move and cross their fingers for an immidiate improvement in results. Which will not happen... so basically they are learning football by looking the other way as Roy stear us safely to relegation..
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If only some 'yanks' would buy Utd, then they'd never win anything ever again.

Oh, hang on...

Stop talking shite FFS.
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And.................lock.
 
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[quote author=Insignificance link=topic=43339.msg1239861#msg1239861 date=1293726314]
We expect immidiate improvement in results. Two losses and a draw later and Its all quiet. And who among the yanks at the board is to suggest anything cl.ever to solve the situation. Name the donkey
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Perhaps they are doing something about it but just decided not to let you in on it? Just a thought.


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Logic!
It really doesn't belong and you should know better.
 
Yeah i forgot. The mancs just love the Glazers dont they?

Man u is kept together by one man alone. When he is gone their only hope is mourinho. We have one man that everyone will gather around. Fans, players, staff. But we hide him away as scout... madness. As the club is falling to pieces the only man to gather everyone is forced to back the man splitting everyone... is that leadership?

Lost it? Sure. You won it mate. Congrats.
 
I think bill Cosby would be a better manager than roy.

We could have some canned laughter at the press conferences and he could make faces when asked what he thought of the performance.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43339.msg1240098#msg1240098 date=1293754543]
He's got a point
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Roy can't get any points at the moment
 
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[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43339.msg1240098#msg1240098 date=1293754543]
He's got a point
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Roy can't get any points at the moment
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Insignificance doesn't have a point anyway. I'm on record as saying that I'd appoint Kenny too, but it was the previous management who made that initial decision (which BTW I don't recall Insignificance protesting too loudly - not American, are they?) and it's understandable that their views will still carry some weight, for now at any rate, with the new lot while they find their way around.
 
I'm coming around to the idea of Kenny as caretaker manager. But I'd hate to see him spoil his legacy on account of this bunch of players.
 
Every Liverpool fan would, mate, but he's been around the club long enough now to know what he's dealing with, and he still put his name forward for the job. I simply don't believe he'd have done that if he felt the odds were against him succeeding, not because he'd have been scared of the challenge but because he'd know that doing so wouldn't help the club either.
 
To discount Kenny Dalglish as interim Manager because he may damage his status seems to me to be a decision based on emotion. It's as if we can't allow him to exercise his own free will and that we want to wrap him up in cotton wool.

To discount him for his absence from recent hands on management is a much more valid point but the man has been around football all his life. When since has experience been a hindrance? Besides he has capable backroom staff, great facilities and a strong spine to the squad.

What he brings to the table is inspiration, a winning mentality; these qualities are what is needed for our current crop of players - they are not devoid of talent just drive and determination. Let's face it, if you aren't going to try for Kenny Dalglish then you shouldn't be at a club of this level.

The technical aspects can be handled by the backroom, what we need is some inspiration and direction at least until new blood is available to manage us long term.
 
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=43339.msg1240229#msg1240229 date=1293791789]
To discount Kenny Dalglish as interim Manager because he may damage his status seems to me to be a decision based on emotion. It's as if we can't allow him to exercise his own free will and that we want to wrap him up in cotton wool.

To discount him for his absence from recent hands on management is a much more valid point but the man has been around football all his life. When since has experience been a hindrance? Besides he has capable backroom staff, great facilities and a strong spine to the squad.

What he brings to the table is inspiration, a winning mentality; these qualities are what is needed for our current crop of players - they are not devoid of talent just drive and determination. Let's face it, if you aren't going to try for Kenny Dalglish then you shouldn't be at a club of this level.

The technical aspects can be handled by the backroom, what we need is some inspiration and direction at least until new blood is available to manage us long term.
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Exactly.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=43339.msg1240208#msg1240208 date=1293788926]
I'm coming around to the idea of Kenny as caretaker manager. But I'd hate to see him spoil his legacy on account of this bunch of players.
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Ditto... After Roy's outburst against Wolves, I'm now slightly in favour of bringing Kenny back until the end of the season.
 
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=43339.msg1240194#msg1240194 date=1293787060]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=43339.msg1240098#msg1240098 date=1293754543]
He's got a point
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Roy can't get any points at the moment
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Insignificance doesn't have a point anyway. I'm on record as saying that I'd appoint Kenny too, but it was the previous management who made that initial decision (which BTW I don't recall Insignificance protesting too loudly - not American, are they?) and it's understandable that their views will still carry some weight, for now at any rate, with the new lot while they find their way around.
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Do you hear your own words mate?

I was devastated when Hodgson was appointed. But leave that for now.

Our club is now run by a board consisting of zero people with any knowledge about football. None of them are capable of making any sensible decisions based upon their knowledge of this game nor their contacts around. And they are using our club to find their way around as you say.

In american sport you dont get relegated. You dont have multiple cups. You dont qualify for continental cups the following season. It is all about the play offs, and missing them will only affect the ongoing season.

Clearly it is a mistake that everyone on the board is unable to act upon our current crisis. They havent even got a md to give them advise. They got former spurs scout Comolli there, but he has spent his short time here trying to adjust to Hodgson.

All they dø now is thinking how they can develop anfield. They will spend the next 6-12 months on this, before they know what we do now. Its undoable. Then they will probably spend the next 6-12 months to see if groundshare is possible.

We are going under here. The asshole of a manager is slamming the supporters for the lack of atmosphere, and that after not expecting to beat everton and to not stand up for torres when slagged by fergie. Plus å few things more!!!!!

They have a situation on their hands and they refuse to deal with it as they hope it goes away. That is unacceptable. Chairman of LFC is more than a cool title on your cv.
 
[quote author=jexykrodic link=topic=43339.msg1240229#msg1240229 date=1293791789]
To discount Kenny Dalglish as interim Manager because he may damage his status seems to me to be a decision based on emotion. It's as if we can't allow him to exercise his own free will and that we want to wrap him up in cotton wool.

To discount him for his absence from recent hands on management is a much more valid point but the man has been around football all his life. When since has experience been a hindrance? Besides he has capable backroom staff, great facilities and a strong spine to the squad.

What he brings to the table is inspiration, a winning mentality; these qualities are what is needed for our current crop of players - they are not devoid of talent just drive and determination. Let's face it, if you aren't going to try for Kenny Dalglish then you shouldn't be at a club of this level.

The technical aspects can be handled by the backroom, what we need is some inspiration and direction at least until new blood is available to manage us long term.
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Bravo.

Add to that that the famous anfield atmosphere would be back from day one. That alone would lift our team and scare the opposition.
 
Question for everyone who wants Kenny in (me included): Do you really reckon he'd want it as a 'caretaker' job? What if he did great, took us (miraculously) to 4th or something, would you want him to stay on?
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=43339.msg1240372#msg1240372 date=1293805339]
Question for everyone who wants Kenny in (me included): Do you really reckon he'd want it as a 'caretaker' job? What if he did great, took us (miraculously) to 4th or something, would you want him to stay on?
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Yes. If he took us to fourth and qualified us for CL next season I would cry for him to stay on. And I know he is big enough to make a sensible decision if it is right for the club if he stayed on or not. f he had it in him to stay on or not.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=43339.msg1240372#msg1240372 date=1293805339]
Question for everyone who wants Kenny in (me included): Do you really reckon he'd want it as a 'caretaker' job? What if he did great, took us (miraculously) to 4th or something, would you want him to stay on?
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He always did want it on a caretaker basis - that's what he said to Broughton and Purslow when he went for it. It's theoretically possible that he could change his mind after a successful spell in charge, but I'd bet a sizeable sum against that happening. I don't think he'd want the hassle indefinitely at his age and with other things going on in his life (Marina being a cancer survivor, and him running their joint Foundation with her, being high on the list).
 
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