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WWIII Return of the Ruskie

The cinema siege was one of the first times I was locked into rolling news, getting mates round and quickly nipping out now and again to get another slab of beers and snacks
 

View: https://twitter.com/auonsson/status/1772005344845103106

Baltic jammer has been turned on again. Now they slightly reconfigured it to jam flights around Northern Poland and the Baltics, but leave a nice clean corridor for flights to and from Kaliningrad. NATO would be extraordinarily naive not to interpret this as a preparation for war.


Poor the Grant Shapps thinking he was special.

In all seriousness. As I said before. Something is imminent.
 
Poor the Grant Shapps thinking he was special.

In all seriousness. As I said before. Something is imminent.
Do you think? They've been bogged down in Ukraine for two years and have suffered heavy losses... What could they be planning? I think they might just be testing something.

But what do I know.
 
Theyve been at it for a couple of months now. Think it was fucked in Poland when a missile went through its airspace the other day. They won't just be doing it for lols.
 
Go on - give us a few options so we know what we have to worry about.

Who knows. But if I was to hazard a guess I'd be looking at the Suwali Gap or Gotland. But it could be a distraction and the real action maybe no where near it.

As woland said. They aren't blocking it for shits and giggles.

Something is afoot.
 
Who knows. But if I was to hazard a guess I'd be looking at the Suwali Gap or Gotland. But it could be a distraction and the real action maybe no where near it.

As woland said. They aren't blocking it for shits and giggles.

Something is afoot.


Does anything involving a Nato state not lead to a very serious escalation and the full force coming down v the more covert undercover support atm
 
Reports of the terrorists they found being beaten and tortured.
Apparently they cut of one of the guys ears and made him eat it

🤢
 
Reports of the terrorists they found being beaten and tortured.
Apparently they cut of one of the guys ears and made him eat it

🤢

Yep.. they also hooked one up to a battery and electrocuted his balls.

The guy spat the ear out apparently. Still very very grim. But after you've shot 300+ People, I suppose there is very little sympathy for them.
 
Does anything involving a Nato state not lead to a very serious escalation and the full force coming down v the more covert undercover support atm

I mean they'll just say Gotland was theirs.. similar to Crimea.

Same scenario as the Suwali gap they'll say is an extension between Kalingrad and Belarus.
 
A couple of quite well-known media commentators (Anatol Lieven, a British journo, and Sir Tony Brenton, former UK Ambassador to Moscow) have poured cold water in the last couple of days on the idea that Putin would seek a wider conflict. They were saying he knows that he'd lose and that his chances of coming out ahead of the curve will be a fair bit greater if he waits for the West's resolve to peter out.
 
Yep.. they also hooked one up to a battery and electrocuted his balls.

The guy spat the ear out apparently. Still very very grim. But after you've shot 300+ People, I suppose there is very little sympathy for them.
Still, this is not normal. When the Americans tortured prisoners in Abu Graib, it took a whistleblower to release the picture and shed light on the (far less brutal in comparison) practices. Here the “law enforcement” agencies are themselves proudly releasing videos of brutal torture and mutilation, state-run TV are showing graphic photos and videos and officials and celebrities are discussing methods of public execusion (even though capital punishment is outlawed in Russia). One of the suspects was wheeled into the countroom unconscious because of pain shock, with visible bruises and the plasic bag used for torture still hanging around his neck…

They are deliberately normalizing sadistic behaviour and making the Russian public complicit in it by presuming they approve of it - probably to take away focus from questions like how come no one came to people’s rescue for more than an hour (most people died from smoke inhallation after the terrorists were long gone, but the police didn’t allow anyone to approach the building), how could 4 guys with Kalashnikovs drive around Moscow for hours before and after the killings and not get arrested and why were the Western warnings of an imminent attack mocked and ignored.
 
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Still, this is not normal. When the Americans tortured prisoners in Abu Graib, it took a whistleblower to release the picture and shed light on the (far less brutal in comparison) practices. Here the “law enforcement” agencies are themselves proudly releasing videos of brutal torture and mutilation, state-run TV are showing graphic photos and videos and officials and celebrities are discussing methods of public execusion (even though capital punishment is outlawed in Russia). One of the suspects was wheeled into the countroom unconscious because of pain shock, with visible bruises and the plasic bag used for torture still hanging around his neck…

They are deliberately normalizing sadistic behaviour and making the Russian public complicit in it by presuming they approve of it - probably to take away focus from questions like how come no one came to people’s rescue for more than an hour (most people died from smoke inhallation after the terrorists were long gone, but the police didn’t allow anyone to approach the building), how could 4 guys with Kalashnikovs drive around Moscow for hours before and after the killings and not get arrested and why were the Western warnings of an imminent attack mocked and ignored.

I'm inclined to believe they were arrested at the concert hall.

Then driven to that location to make it look like they were escaping towards Ukraine.

I agree with you.. its all Putins game. He's proved time and again people are mere pawns in his game. If they die.. they die.
 
I'm inclined to believe they were arrested at the concert hall.

Then driven to that location to make it look like they were escaping towards Ukraine.

I agree with you.. its all Putins game. He's proved time and again people are mere pawns in his game. If they die.. they die.
Nah, they were arrested near the border of Belarus, they seemed to be headed there. Which didn’t preclude Putin from baselessly claiming that Ukraine, the US and UK were somehow the puppetmasters behind ISIS terrorists.
 
They are deliberately normalizing sadistic behaviour and making the Russian public complicit in it by presuming they approve of it - probably to take away focus from questions like how come no one came to people’s rescue for more than an hour (most people died from smoke inhallation after the terrorists were long gone, but the police didn’t allow anyone to approach the building), how could 4 guys with Kalashnikovs drive around Moscow for hours before and after the killings and not get arrested and why were the Western warnings of an imminent attack mocked and ignored.


This is interesting, allowed to happen and then benefit from the ensuing tragedy?

Is there any more info on
Who paid them? Shiuld be easy enough to track the money/check the telephone telegram accounts.

I also found it strange when one of them said he was listening to a preacher on telegram rather than the guys name?
Any idea who the preacher was/is
 

View: https://twitter.com/NAFO_Sloski/status/1772692763437572466/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1772692763437572466¤tTweetUser=NAFO_Sloski

Belarussian dictator and Putin’s puppet Lukashenko openly discussing plans of attack against Poland and the Baltics in the Suvalki gap with his military commanders (listen for yourself with English subtitles, they are accurate). At this point it’s obviously bluffing - they (I’m not making a distinction between Russia and Belarus here, because everything they do on foreign front is coordinated) are going out of their way to telegraph their supposed plans of attack against NATO, while there are no indications of large-scale troop build-up.

Compare it to their behaviour in the build-up to the attack of Ukraine when they were silently ammassing 150,000 troops on the border, but vehemently denying any plans to invade. Still, it’s startling and rather chilling to hear them openly discussing plans for an armed invasion of Europe - you could say especially concerning if you’re a citizen of Poland or Lithuania, but really it will affect every NATO country because of the mutual defence treaty. I don’t think Putin will cross the line just yet, but he is determined to test it to the fullest extent and to exploit any potential divisions between the allies.

And of course if Trump is elected in November or even takes a decisive lead in the polls prior to the election, Europe will be left to defend against Russia on her own. If the US is out of the game and the balance of power shifts towards Russia (with the industrial power of China standing behind), I honestly think most Western European countries will give Putin a chunk of Poland and whatever else he asks for to avoid actually fighting. Incredibly, despite losing most of his regular army in Ukraine, Putin seems very close to pulling off an unlikely victory over the West he couldn’t even dream about a few years ago.
 
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Without clicking on that link I'm pretty sure that he doesn't believe the shit he's coming out with, so not the best starting position for trying to convince non paranoid delusionals.
 
Without clicking on that link I'm pretty sure that he doesn't believe the shit he's coming out with, so not the best starting position for trying to convince non paranoid delusionals.

He's got a huge following - is he just feeding a certain storyline to make money? or does he believe it?
Honestly, I don't know what to believe with these folks anymore with these huge YT/Podcast stars.
 
I think there's a massive divide between people who are stuck doom scrolling stupid apps all day and people getting on with their lives. This dude and all the other grifters take advantage of the former, and make all their insecurities about some nebulous swamp.

Not that there isn't any truth in any of it, just it's a lot more obvious than the conspiracies etc. Power corrupts, yeah we know.

I still log into twitter and the amount of posts from dickhead accounts saying stuff like 'something terrible is about to happen, can anyone else sense it' and all the replies are yes absolutely, we're doomed. If only they knew they could solve it all by logging off and going for a walk. Bumping into some people, stroking a strangers dog, cooing at an ugly baby and seeing some shit happen in the aldi.
 
I think there's a massive divide between people who are stuck doom scrolling stupid apps all day and people getting on with their lives. This dude and all the other grifters take advantage of the former, and make all their insecurities about some nebulous swamp.

Not that there isn't any truth in any of it, just it's a lot more obvious than the conspiracies etc. Power corrupts, yeah we know.

I still log into twitter and the amount of posts from dickhead accounts saying stuff like 'something terrible is about to happen, can anyone else sense it' and all the replies are yes absolutely, we're doomed. If only they knew they could solve it all by logging off and going for a walk. Bumping into some people, stroking a strangers dog, cooing at an ugly baby and seeing some shit happen in the aldi.

I like how you've described that - thank you.
 
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